# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 29, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729 "2013-01-29T19:01:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 384
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7662 "2017-05-26T00:26:02Z")
Add another to the SEPOTD tally. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7663 "2017-05-26T00:44:01Z")
[Kansas is about to change](http://www.kansascity.com/opinion/editorials/article152482409.html). ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 8:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7664 "2017-05-26T08:44:17Z")
I’m impressed with the NRA for taking an utterly idiotic story (boy punished for biting a Pop-Tart into the shape of a gun) and turning it into a stupider and sleazier one (NRA gives Pop-Tart boy a lifetime membership and then uses the case to advocate for allowing simulated weapons – i.e. ones that actually look like guns – into schools). Stay classy, NRA. ---
**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 9:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7665 "2017-05-26T09:59:23Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > I’m impressed with the NRA for taking an utterly idiotic story (boy punished for biting a Pop-Tart into the shape of a gun) and turning it into a stupider and sleazier one (NRA gives Pop-Tart boy a lifetime membership and then uses the case to advocate for allowing simulated weapons – i.e. ones that actually look like guns – into schools). > > Stay classy, NRA. What law are you talking about? The [2014 Florida law](http://laws.flrules.org/2014/219) that was referred to provides that: > [@](#): > > (g) Notice that the possession of a firearm or weapon as defined in chapter 790 by any student while the student is on school property or in attendance at a school function is grounds for disciplinary action and may also result in criminal prosecution. Simulating a firearm or weapon while playing or wearing clothing or accessories that depict a firearm or weapon or express an opinion regarding a right guaranteed by the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution is not grounds for disciplinary action or referral to the criminal justice or juvenile justice system under this section or s. 1006.13. Simulating a firearm or weapon while playing includes, but is not limited to: > > 1. Brandishing a partially consumed pastry or other food item to simulate a firearm or weapon. > > 2. Possessing a toy firearm or weapon that is 2 inches or less in overall length. > > 3. Possessing a toy firearm or weapon made of plastic snap-together building blocks. > > 4. Using a finger or hand to simulate a firearm or weapon. > > 5. Vocalizing an imaginary firearm or weapon. > > 6. Drawing a picture, or possessing an image, of a firearm or weapon. > > 7. Using a pencil, pen, or other writing or drawing utensil to simulate a firearm or weapon. > > However, a student may be subject to disciplinary action if simulating a firearm or weapon while playing substantially disrupts student learning, causes bodily harm to another person, or places another person in reasonable fear of bodily harm. The severity of consequences imposed upon a student, including referral to the criminal justice or juvenile justice system, must be proportionate to the severity of the infraction and consistent with district school board policies for similar infractions. If a student is disciplined for such conduct, the school principal or his or her designee must call the students parent. Disciplinary action resulting from a student’s clothing or accessories shall be determined pursuant to paragraph (d) unless the wearing of the clothing or accessory causes a substantial disruption to student learning, in which case the infraction may be addressed in a manner that is consistent with district school board policies for similar infractions. This paragraph does not prohibit a public school from adopting a school uniform policy. Emphasis added. That would seem to explicitly allow for disciplinary action for toy guns “that actually look like guns” at school. Do you have a cite for the NRA advocating for some different policy? And just this March, [a 5-year-old girl was suspended from school in North Carolina](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/03/30/5-year-old-girl-suspended-from-school-for-playing-with-stick-gun-at-recess) for pretending that she was the royal bodyguard and that a stick was a gun which she was using to protect the king and queen. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7666 "2017-05-26T12:27:09Z")
You do then have to get into what is “reasonable fear” for a child of the Pop Tart gun age. In other Stupid Gun News, the most important thing the Texas legislature had to do, one recent day, was to legalize hunting feral hogs and coyotes - [from hot-air balloons.](https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/texas/articles/2017-05-25/texas-approves-hunting-feral-hogs-by-hot-air-balloon) Remember to aim _down_, cowboys. Yeehaw. ---
**Author:** ![Fubaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@Fubaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fubaya)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7667 "2017-05-26T14:56:45Z")
Here is a story with audio of an assault that took pace because there was no good guy with a gun around to stop it [http://read.bi/2rp96g0](http://read.bi/2rp96g0) ---
**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7668 "2017-05-26T18:35:50Z")
“Republican Season…!” 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2017, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7669 "2017-05-26T19:08:47Z")
Be vewwy quiet … ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2017, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7670 "2017-06-15T16:27:17Z")
Safety conscious gun owner shoots daughter to demonstrate to sons why they shouldn’t play with guns. [http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article155861354.html](http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article155861354.html) > [@](#): > > The gun was originally unloaded, but Hummel then loaded it and forgot he had done so, according to the local CBS station. He said again, “never use a gun,” and “this is why,” as his 9-year-old daughter Olivia walked into the room. He pointed the gun at her head and shot her, according to an arrest report. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2017, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7671 "2017-06-15T16:44:48Z")
There are two things that have stuck with me from my Hunter’s Ed course that everyone should know. The first is that if your feet are unhappy, you’re unhappy. The second is that EVERY GUN IS ALWAYS LOADED. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2017, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7672 "2017-06-15T16:50:43Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > Safety conscious gun owner shoots daughter to demonstrate to sons why they shouldn’t play with guns. > > [http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article155861354.html](http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article155861354.html) > [@](#): > > Eric Hummel said he wanted to show his two sons why they shouldn’t play with guns on Saturday. Yep, play with guns any day except Saturday. ---
**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2017, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7673 "2017-06-15T16:55:34Z")
Son: " Gosh Dad, way to drive the point home. " Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2017, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7674 "2017-06-15T17:05:47Z")
My neighbor is a gun enthusiast (like, _really_ enthusiastic), and he has a six year old son, the same age as my son. I can so see this happening at my neighbor’s house. Every time I see a story about a gun owner accidentally harming their child, I can barely keep from crying. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2017, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7675 "2017-06-15T17:09:00Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > Safety conscious gun owner shoots daughter to demonstrate to sons why they shouldn’t play with guns. > > [http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article155861354.html](http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article155861354.html) If only there had been a good guy with a gun around, this tragedy may have been prevented. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2017, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7676 "2017-06-15T17:26:34Z")
I heard that the dad wanted to also teach the daughter about not playing with guns on Saturday, but she told him “I need more gun training like I need a hole in the head” ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2017, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7677 "2017-06-15T19:57:31Z")
An armed society is a polite society, so we’re told. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2017, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7678 "2017-06-15T20:13:55Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > An armed society is a polite society, so we’re told. Another mark on the tally. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2017, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7679 "2017-06-15T20:19:49Z")
You actually think you’re \*helping \*your cause, don’t you? That might be cute, if it weren’t so sad. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2017, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7680 "2017-06-15T20:25:46Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > You actually think you’re \*helping \*your cause, don’t you? > > That might be cute, if it weren’t so sad. …and another. No, dickhead, this isn’t about my “cause.” This is about making fun of you for being so dimwitted and yet, somehow, convinced of your own moral and intellectual superiority. If guns had never been invented, you would still be this board’s leading dickhead. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2017, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7681 "2017-06-15T20:29:46Z")
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