# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 29, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729 "2013-01-29T19:01:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2017, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7682 "2017-06-15T20:36:14Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Why not just set up a script to reply to any post in this thread with “ur stoopid, derp derp derp”. It would save you some typing, and lose no content.

If the [SR-71](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_SR-71_Blackbird)had an odometer, it would have ticked over miles more slowly than we add to the SEPOTD tally.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7683 "2017-06-16T00:57:50Z")

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Or you could just shorten it to “derp”. Still with no loss of content.

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**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7684 "2017-06-16T01:13:11Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Or you could just shorten it to “derp”. Still with no loss of content.

Tick.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7685 "2017-06-16T01:44:18Z")

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Why not take it somewhere else, both of you threadshitting fuckwipes. This thread would not even be up to 2000 posts without your damn pissing match.

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**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2017, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7686 "2017-06-16T01:49:15Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> Why not take it somewhere else, both of you threadshitting fuckwipes. This thread would not even be up to 2000 posts without your damn pissing match.

Are you paying for either of us to post, pigfucker?

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7687 "2017-06-22T04:01:49Z")

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it seems to be working

> [@"\[ars](#):
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> ([Gunshots are the third leading killer of children in the US | Ars Technica](https://arstechnica.com/science/2017/06/guns-kill-nearly-1300-kids-in-the-us-per-year-and-suicides-are-on-the-rise/))"]Firearm-related deaths are now the third leading cause of death among US children and the second leading cause of injury-related deaths, behind car crashes.
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> The latest annual death estimate breaks down to: 53 percent from homicide, 38 percent from suicide, six percent unintentional, and the remaining three percent were either from unknown intentions or legal intervention.
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> issue  
> While firearm homicides and unintentional fatal shootings appear to be declining recently, the researchers found that firearm suicide deaths have increased 60 percent between 2007 and 2014. This is in line with a larger nationwide trend …
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> When approaching parents, Nelson recommends that pediatricians note the unpredictability of teenagers and the craftiness of younger children, which parents may underestimate.

Yes, the number are quite small. But the overall death rate for Americans remains comfortably below one percent up to around age 50. A small number of people die each year, so maybe the gun problem is trivial because it is a part of a small fraction of the population (die-ers).

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7688 "2017-06-22T15:15:28Z")

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What number of preventable deaths do you find acceptable? Damuri insists on that same argument, but can’t do any more than define what we have now as acceptable. Acceptable to whom, too, while you’re at it?

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**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7689 "2017-06-22T15:40:27Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> What number of preventable deaths do you find acceptable? Damuri insists on that same argument, but can’t do any more than define what we have now as acceptable. Acceptable to whom, too, while you’re at it?

Tick. Galactus JAQIng off again.  
Don’t answer him until he answers this question: How many times in your life would you have murdered somebody if you’d had a gun, **ElvisL1ves**?

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7690 "2017-06-22T16:31:40Z")

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> [@Scumpup](#):
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> Are you paying for either of us to post, pigfucker?

You’re wasting precious bandwidth that could be used for [pictures of cats with guns.](http://lookingxglassxchica.deviantart.com/art/Sniper-Kitten-203511589)

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**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7691 "2017-06-22T18:55:03Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> You’re wasting precious bandwidth that could be used for [pictures of cats with guns.](http://lookingxglassxchica.deviantart.com/art/Sniper-Kitten-203511589)

Fair enough.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7692 "2017-06-22T21:52:14Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> What number of preventable deaths do you find acceptable?

Deaths are not really the issue for me. There are two issues AFAIC. The first is that guns make people stupid. A rocket scientist or a CERN physicist has their intelligence level reduced by having a gun at hand. Granted, automobiles, televisions, mobile phones: guns are not the only thing that make people stupid, but just about every other thing is not specifically designed with destruction in mind. This is a problem.

The second issue is the underlying causes of gun violence and preventable deaths. Why do some people crave guns? I believe the primary factors are economic in origin. Societal imbalance and arbitrary financial pressures fuel the anxiety and paranoia that makes people feel the need to arm themselves in the first place.

So, the preventable deaths are lamentable, but they are just a symptom of a much larger snarl of bad shit. Unless that gordian tangle is addressed in a meaningful way, the problems we have with firearms cannot be made less bad.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7693 "2017-06-23T02:53:20Z")

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Remember the guy who believed in the conspiracy theory that alleged that Democratic operatives were running a child sex trafficking ring through a Washington D.C. pizza parlor and then went there with an assault rifle and squeezed off a few rounds? Yeah, [that asshole](http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/22/politics/pizzagate-sentencing/index.html).

He won’t be online for the next Four years.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2017, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7694 "2017-06-29T18:00:01Z")

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The NRA is apparently calling for a civil war against liberals.  
https://www.facebook.com/plugins/video.php?height=224&width=400&href=https://www.facebook.com/NRA/videos/1605896562755373/

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2017, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7695 "2017-06-29T18:41:32Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> The NRA is apparently calling for a civil war against liberals.  
> [Join the National Rifle Association | Join NRA Here: http://bit.ly/2q5pp0L | By NRA - National Rifle Association of AmericaFacebook](https://www.facebook.com/NRA/videos/1605896562755373/)

I saw that. Gun sales must be down – time to gin up some fear and hatred!

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**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2017, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7696 "2017-06-29T18:54:38Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> The NRA is apparently calling for a civil war against liberals.  
> [Join the National Rifle Association | Join NRA Here: http://bit.ly/2q5pp0L | By NRA - National Rifle Association of AmericaFacebook](https://www.facebook.com/NRA/videos/1605896562755373/)

No, they are calling for right wing propoganda (i.e. their truth) to counter left wing propoganda (i.e. your truth).

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2017, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7697 "2017-06-29T18:56:59Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> The NRA is apparently calling for a civil war against liberals.  
> [Join the National Rifle Association | Join NRA Here: http://bit.ly/2q5pp0L | By NRA - National Rifle Association of AmericaFacebook](https://www.facebook.com/NRA/videos/1605896562755373/)

Well, that was unsettling. ☹

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2017, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7698 "2017-06-29T19:02:34Z")

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“Although the Second Amendment people — maybe there is, I don’t know.”

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**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2017, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7699 "2017-06-29T19:29:35Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> “Although the Second Amendment people — maybe there is, I don’t know.”

Tick.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2017, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7700 "2017-06-29T19:45:46Z")

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[Here’s one](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/29/us/shooting-youtube-stunt-minnesota.html?_r=0) that qualifies for this thread, and also for a Darwin Award. A young Minnesota couple, seeking YouTube fame, decided to try using a book as a bullet-proof vest. It did not go well.:

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> Over the past several weeks, Monalisa Perez of Halstad, Minn., and her boyfriend, Pedro Ruiz III, began their quest for YouTube fame by creating and posting videos of mostly harmless pranks: Mr. Ruiz climbing onto a tenuous tree branch and falling a short distance, or Ms. Perez feeding him a doughnut covered in baby powder rather than powdered sugar.
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> On Monday evening, the couple suddenly upped the ante when, the authorities say, Ms. Perez, 19, shot at a thick book that Mr. Ruiz, 22, was holding, apparently believing that the bullet would not make it through the volume.
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> But the high-risk stunt went horribly wrong: The bullet entered Mr. Ruiz’s chest and he died at the scene.

They did not use a little pea-shooter for their stunt; she shot him with a .50 caliber Desert Eagle.

She’s currently out on bail, on a second-degree manslaughter charge.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [June 29, 2017, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7701 "2017-06-29T20:31:51Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> [Here’s one](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/29/us/shooting-youtube-stunt-minnesota.html?_r=0) that qualifies for this thread, and also for a Darwin Award. A young Minnesota couple, seeking YouTube fame, decided to try using a book as a bullet-proof vest. It did not go well.:They did not use a little pea-shooter for their stunt; she shot him with a .50 caliber Desert Eagle.
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> She’s currently out on bail, on a second-degree manslaughter charge.

She needs to take a pregnancy test first if we are going to award a darwin award to her boyfriend.

Would that have even worked with a .22?

People sometimes don’t realize just how much force a bullet has behind it.

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