# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 29, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729 "2013-01-29T19:01:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 391
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2017, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7802 "2017-11-06T22:52:46Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > And then got a gun permit. So, the old chestnut about letting the current gun laws do their thing is bullshit? ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2017, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7803 "2017-11-06T23:11:01Z")
And John Lott is already out saying that what we need is more guns…not less: “If more people were carrying guns, the attack might have been stopped even faster and more lives would have been saved.” > **[Texas shooting: Liberal media fixates on laws that wouldn't have stopped...](https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/texas-shooting-liberal-media-fixates-on-laws-that-wouldnt-have-stopped-attack-ignores-good-guy-with-gun)** > > The attack at the First Baptist Church in tiny Sutherland Springs, Texas, claimed 26 lives and left people with an understandable desire to “do something.” I bet with a few more guns in play they could’ve limited the dead to only 15! These hypotheticals are what I call solid gun control. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2017, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7804 "2017-11-06T23:37:01Z")
> [@Ike\_Witt](#): > > So, the old chestnut about letting the current gun laws do their thing is bullshit? hmm, > [@"\[wgn](#): > > ([Texas church shooting suspect Devin Kelley denied gun license, governor says | WGN-TV](http://wgntv.com/2017/11/06/texas-church-shooting-suspect-devin-kelley-denied-gun-license-governor-says/))"]Texas church gunman Devin Kelley tried to get a license to carry a gun in Texas, but the state denied him, Texas Gov. Greg Abbott said, citing the director of Texas’ Department of Public Safety. > > “So how was it that he was able to get a gun? By all the facts that we seem to know, he was not supposed to have access to a gun,” Abbott told CNN’s Chris Cuomo. “So how did this happen?” ---
**Author:** ![SaneBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@SaneBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaneBill)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2017, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7805 "2017-11-07T14:00:00Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > And John Lott is already out saying that what we need is more guns…not less: > > “If more people were carrying guns, the attack might have been stopped even faster and more lives would have been saved.” 😕 But I thought guns don’t save people, people save people. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2017, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7806 "2017-11-17T18:16:47Z")
[Awesome:](http://www.knoxnews.com/story/news/crime/2017/11/16/man-accidentally-shoots-himself-wife-church-during-discussion-church-shootings/872374001/) > [@](#): > > A man accidentally shot himself and his wife at an East Tennessee church on Thursday while he was showing off his gun during a discussion on recent church shootings, police said. > > \ > > "Somebody else walked up and said, ‘Can I see it?’ " Parks said. "He pulled it back out and said, ‘With this loaded indicator, I can tell that it’s not loaded.’ " > > He pulled the trigger. > > “Evidently he just forgot that he re-chambered the weapon,” Parks said. > > The gun was lying on its side on a table. The bullet sliced the palm of the man’s upward-facing hand, then entered the left side of his wife’s abdomen and exited the right side, Parks said. No charges filed, of course. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2017, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7807 "2017-11-17T18:27:11Z")
I can’t stop giggling at this sentence - “A man accidentally shot himself and his wife at an East Tennessee church on Thursday while he was showing off his gun during a discussion on recent church shootings” ---
**Author:** ![SigMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@SigMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SigMan)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2017, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7808 "2017-11-17T19:45:21Z")
He broke the cardinal rule #1, “Treat the gun as it is loaded always.” What an idiot, makes us handgunners look bad. You don’t squeeze the friggin trigger to prove it’s not loaded. Oh by the way, he broke the cardinal rule #2, #3 and #4 too. A real stupid ass who should not have a gun. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2017, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7809 "2017-11-17T19:53:29Z")
Not only is he not being charged, he’s [not even going to lose his carry permit](http://www.knoxnews.com/story/news/crime/2017/11/17/man-who-wounded-wife-self-accidental-east-tenn-church-shooting-keep-gun-permit/874412001/). I understand that there are plenty of responsible gun owners in the United States, but this is precisely the kind of person that guns need to be taken away from. He’s over 80 years old, and by his own admission he’s carried a gun for years and takes it everywhere, and yet he STILL apparently doesn’t know the difference between chambering a round and inserting a magazine. He also appears not to know what the “loaded chamber” indicator on his own gun means. ---
**Author:** ![SigMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@SigMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SigMan)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2017, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7810 "2017-11-17T20:04:32Z")
Right, he carried the gun for years and learned nothing? :rolleyes: I’m a licensed carry and I made sure I know what I need to know about the guns, the laws and the gun safety. I practiced it so long that it’s a habit. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2017, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7811 "2017-11-20T13:45:34Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > He also appears not to know what the “loaded chamber” indicator on his own gun means. I wasn’t aware these were a regular feature these days so I did some Googling. Based on a cursory scan of results, there appears to be some differences of opinion as to how useful they are in practice (as opposed to simply being there to keep dumbasses from suing gun manufacturers). But yeah, anyone pulling the trigger on a gun not intending for it to go ‘bang’ is courting disaster. ---
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2017, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7812 "2017-11-25T05:50:09Z")
Another report of stupid gun news and a [tragedy](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/animalia/wp/2017/11/24/he-thought-he-saw-a-deer-and-fired-his-pistol-now-his-neighbor-is-dead/?utm_term=.d9d9c3ba123d) - someone dies. I grew up and learned to hunt not too far from where this woman died, but hunting deer after dark, with a pistol and then taking a 200 yard shot is stupid and NOT what I learned. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2017, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7813 "2017-11-25T06:00:30Z")
Oh, my, yes, **jasg** , as a casual target shooter who’s never hunted, even I knew what a screwup in so many ways that jerk is. Jaw-droppingly stupid, and I hope the authorities charge him with all possible criminal offenses – just hunting after sundown and failing to properly identify what he was shooting at have got to be crimes, let alone negligent homicide. And who the hell goes deer hunting with a pistol?!? ---
**Author:** ![SigMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@SigMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SigMan)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2017, 8:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7814 "2017-11-25T08:31:51Z")
Some do hunt with a pistol but this is plain stupidity at its worst. The cardinal rules had been broken big time. There has to be a way to keep the dumbbells away from guns. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2017, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7815 "2017-11-25T12:11:41Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Relaxed concealed-carry laws have [gotten more people killed.](http://www.herald-dispatch.com/news/firearm-fatalities-climbed-after-concealed-carry-law-passed-in/article_a1580996-b227-5246-8abe-0328f7b7e65e.html) Surprising, huh? > > [More-clinical data.](https://www.upi.com/More-lenient-concealed-carry-laws-linked-with-increases-in-homicide-rate-study-finds/9111508529293/) > [@jasg](#): > > Another report of stupid gun news and a [tragedy](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/animalia/wp/2017/11/24/he-thought-he-saw-a-deer-and-fired-his-pistol-now-his-neighbor-is-dead/?utm_term=.d9d9c3ba123d) - someone dies. > > I grew up and learned to hunt not too far from where this woman died, but hunting deer after dark, with a pistol and then taking a 200 yard shot is stupid and NOT what I learned. Why was it so urgent to kill the deer anyway? Was it one of those mutant deer with six-inch fangs that break into homes and eat the children? ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2017, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7816 "2017-11-25T14:32:22Z")
> [@SigMan](#): > > There has to be a way to keep the dumbbells away from guns. Gun grabber!! Look, look at the gun grabber!! You can’t take our FREEEEEEEEEDUMB!! ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2017, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7817 "2017-11-25T15:26:29Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > Oh, my, yes, **jasg** , as a casual target shooter who’s never hunted, even I knew what a screwup in so many ways that jerk is. Jaw-droppingly stupid, and I hope the authorities charge him with all possible criminal offenses – just hunting after sundown and failing to properly identify what he was shooting at have got to be crimes, let alone negligent homicide. > > And who the hell goes deer hunting with a pistol?!? This is a typical [single shot pistol](https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/guns/images/1/12/Thompson_Contender_G2.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130905195121)for hunting. Often chambered for rifle cartridges. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2017, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7818 "2017-11-25T15:48:51Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > This is a typical [single shot pistol](https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/guns/images/1/12/Thompson_Contender_G2.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130905195121)for hunting. Often chambered for rifle cartridges. Ah, I see. Lots of recoil? I was thinking, .22 pistol for varmints, yeh, but big game? Toldja I was just a casual target shooter. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Norse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a9adbd/32.png) [@Norse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Norse)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2017, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7819 "2017-11-25T15:53:25Z")
> [@SigMan](#): > > There has to be a way to keep the dumbbells away from guns. There is, and more or less every other Western country has implemented some flavor of it. Problem is, it won’t ever work in the US. Or, so I’ve been told. I’m not sure why; it may be American Exceptionalism, it may be the religious fundamentalist attitude towards the US constitution’s 2nd Amendment, or it may be something else. Sent from my E5823 using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2017, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7820 "2017-11-25T15:53:40Z")
> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#): > > Ah, I see. Lots of recoil? I was thinking, .22 pistol for varmints, yeh, but big game? > > Toldja I was just a casual target shooter. 😃 [Rifle calibers](https://www.tcarms.com/firearms/interchangeable-platforms/g2-contender#barrels) run from 17 HMR to 45 Colt/410 Bore(except California). ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2017, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7821 "2017-11-25T15:57:35Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > [Rifle calibers](https://www.tcarms.com/firearms/interchangeable-platforms/g2-contender#barrels) run from 17 HMR to 45 Colt/410 Bore(except California). Good grief. I really need to get out more, eh? 😉 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729.md?page=390) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729.md?page=392)