# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 29, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729 "2013-01-29T19:01:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![SaneBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@SaneBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaneBill)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2017, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7822 "2017-11-25T16:06:28Z")

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If she only had carried a gun herself, it all would’ve ended well.

Oh, wait, I take that back. Now is not the time to talk about it.

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**Author:** ![SigMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@SigMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SigMan)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2017, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7823 "2017-11-25T16:18:37Z")

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> [@Bayard](#):
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> Gun grabber!! Look, look at the gun grabber!! You can’t take our FREEEEEEEEEDUMB!!

Right and if this keeps up we will no longer have freedom. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2017, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7824 "2017-11-25T16:25:23Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> Why was it so urgent to kill the deer anyway? Was it one of those mutant deer with six-inch fangs that break into homes and eat the children?

They’re called [Musk Deer](https://nonewz.co/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/vampire-deer-2.jpg) (although I don’t know about the children-eating thing).

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**Author:** ![SigMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@SigMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SigMan)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2017, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7825 "2017-11-25T16:31:10Z")

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I wouldn’t be surprised.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2017, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7826 "2017-11-25T17:06:50Z")

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> [@jasg](#):
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> Another report of stupid gun news and a [tragedy](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/animalia/wp/2017/11/24/he-thought-he-saw-a-deer-and-fired-his-pistol-now-his-neighbor-is-dead/?utm_term=.d9d9c3ba123d) - someone dies.
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> I grew up and learned to hunt not too far from where this woman died, but hunting deer after dark, with a pistol and then taking a 200 yard shot is stupid and NOT what I learned.

I wonder exactly how much trouble he will end up getting into over this murder. Will he see jail time? Will it just be a fine? Will he be allowed to keep his guns?

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**Author:** ![SaneBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@SaneBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaneBill)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2017, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7827 "2017-11-25T17:24:16Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> I wonder exactly how much trouble he will end up getting into over this murder. Will he see jail time? Will it just be a fine? Will he be allowed to keep his guns?

If he gets anything less that several years in prison, there will be a lot of people trying this with persons they don’t like. They should make an example of him - all his money for funeral expenses and whatever, also few years in prison and no permit to carry guns ever. And if he was drunk at the time, no booze for him.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2017, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7828 "2017-11-25T17:39:42Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> I wonder exactly how much trouble he will end up getting into over this murder. Will he see jail time? Will it just be a fine? Will he be allowed to keep his guns?

Personally, I think he should lose his gun rights for life. Jail time, whatever is the maximum that state law allows for as many charges as possible. Too bad there isn’t an enhancement for “deliberate negligence”.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2017, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7829 "2017-11-25T17:44:48Z")

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> [@jasg](#):
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> Another report of stupid gun news and a [tragedy](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/animalia/wp/2017/11/24/he-thought-he-saw-a-deer-and-fired-his-pistol-now-his-neighbor-is-dead/?utm_term=.d9d9c3ba123d) - someone dies.  
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Oopsie-daisy! I thought it might be a deer, so I shot just to make sure if it was or not! Don’t take mah gurns! Mah gurns!

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2017, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7830 "2017-11-25T17:59:33Z")

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> [@SaneBill](#):
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> If he gets anything less that several years in prison, there will be a lot of people trying this with persons they don’t like. They should make an example of him - all his money for funeral expenses and whatever, also few years in prison and no permit to carry guns ever. And if he was drunk at the time, no booze for him.

> [@running\_coach](#):
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> Personally, I think he should lose his gun rights for life. Jail time, whatever is the maximum that state law allows for as many charges as possible. Too bad there isn’t an enhancement for “deliberate negligence”.

That’s what I would hope, but I can see the gun crowd complaining that it isn’t fair that he doesn’t get to keep his guns. He just killed that _one_ person, and he said he was sorry. How is he supposed to protect himself if he can’t have a gun anymore?

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2017, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7831 "2017-11-25T18:03:00Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> That’s what I would hope, but I can see the gun crowd complaining that it isn’t fair that he doesn’t get to keep his guns. He just killed that _one_ person, and he said he was sorry. How is he supposed to protect himself if he can’t have a gun anymore?

He should move where the phantom deer aren’t so dangerous.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2017, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7832 "2017-11-25T18:09:33Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> He should move where the phantom deer aren’t so dangerous.

They don’t have deer in prison, he should be fine there for a while. Tell him he can stay there until he feels safe enough to take a walk in the woods without a gun, I estimate it would take 5-10 years, maybe a bit more.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2017, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7833 "2017-11-25T18:25:32Z")

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> [@SigMan](#):
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> There has to be a way to keep the dumbbells away from guns.

Oh, you shit-fucked libtards. Your hatred of the 2nd Amendment is not only un-American, but _contrary to Judaeo-Christian values_.

_Can’t you please just wait until **at least 24 hours after the latest gun tragedy** to re-start your gun control debate?_

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**Author:** ![SigMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@SigMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SigMan)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2017, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7834 "2017-11-25T18:43:15Z")

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WTF is this? I’m talking about an idiot not gun control dumb ass.

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**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2017, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7835 "2017-11-25T18:54:45Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> Oh, you shit-fucked libtards. Your hatred of the 2nd Amendment is not only un-American, but _contrary to Judaeo-Christian values_.
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> _Can’t you please just wait until **at least 24 hours after the latest gun tragedy** to re-start your gun control debate?_

Not hate for the 2nd. Hate for ignorance and stupidity - like the “know what you are shorting at” bit of wisdom.

(Besides, it is impossible to wait 24 hours after each tragedy - they happen sooner.)

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2017, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7836 "2017-11-25T19:03:20Z")

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> [@SigMan](#):
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> WTF is this? I’m talking about an idiot not gun control dumb ass.

You must wait at least 24 hours after the latest idiot tragedy before discussing idiot control. (I think Septimus was being sarcastic)

Point is, that there is no way to make sure that this person does not have legal access to a gun again that the gun advocates won’t object to. They know that they have no actual rational argument for that, though, so they insist that we can’t have the conversation at all.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2017, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7837 "2017-11-25T20:22:11Z")

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> [@SigMan](#):
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> WTF is this? I’m talking about an idiot not gun control dumb ass.

You are talking about gun control. You want to keep guns away from the dumbbells. We can’t have that here. The NRA and the legislators they own will never allow it.

If it wasn’t clear, I am in favor of gun control. My earlier post was mocking the mentality that prevents the US from enacting even the most limited gun control measures.

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**Author:** ![SigMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@SigMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SigMan)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2017, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7838 "2017-11-25T20:26:21Z")

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Well, I know all that. It’s after the fact that we keep the idiot away from the gun.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2017, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7839 "2017-11-25T20:28:47Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> (I think Septimus was being sarcastic)

Thanks, **Canine B**. I’d forgotten how easily whooshable gun fiends are.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2017, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7840 "2017-11-26T02:09:51Z")

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> [@SigMan](#):
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> Well, I know all that. It’s after the fact that we keep the idiot away from the gun.

Well, that sounds like an effective strategy.

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**Author:** ![SigMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@SigMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SigMan)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2017, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7841 "2017-11-26T03:24:27Z")

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Right. What else can we do? :rolleyes:

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