# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 29, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729 "2013-01-29T19:01:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2017, 9:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7842 "2017-11-27T09:11:51Z")

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If we outlaw idiots, only outlaws will be idiots.

Or something like that.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7843 "2017-12-13T18:07:52Z")

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Wow, have we really gone more than two weeks without a SGNOTD? Well, wait no more!

Two drunk brothers at 1:00 AM with a gun. One of them starts showing off his “tactical maneuvers”. It goes about as well as you’d expect. The show off waited till after 9:00 to tell anyone that he’d just shot his brother. And even then, he didn’t call 911 but instead called his parents, who seem to have an ounce of sense, as they immediately called 911.

Hopefully the shooter’s militia will conduct an after action review and incorporate the lessons learned in their next training event.

> **[Hazelwood man accidentally kills brother while playing with loaded gun,...](https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/hazelwood-man-accidentally-kills-brother-while-playing-with-loaded-gun/article_e2140dfa-d3e4-5aed-a909-ab761ea84780.html)**
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> Daniel Runnoe, 24, was drinking and practicing tactical maneuvers with a loaded gun when it fired and hit his brother in the head, killing him.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7844 "2017-12-13T20:07:42Z")

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> [@Bayard](#):
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> Wow, have we really gone more than two weeks without a SGNOTD? Well, wait no more!
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> Two drunk brothers at 1:00 AM with a gun. One of them starts showing off his “tactical maneuvers”. It goes about as well as you’d expect. The show off waited till after 9:00 to tell anyone that he’d just shot his brother. And even then, he didn’t call 911 but instead called his parents, who seem to have an ounce of sense, as they immediately called 911.
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> Hopefully the shooter’s militia will conduct an after action review and incorporate the lessons learned in their next training event.
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> [Hazelwood man accidentally kills brother while playing with loaded gun, police say](http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/hazelwood-man-accidentally-kills-brother-while-playing-with-loaded-gun/article_e2140dfa-d3e4-5aed-a909-ab761ea84780.html)

I love these descriptions from the article:

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> A Hazelwood man was drinking while “practicing tactical maneuvers” with a handgun Monday at home when it fired, killing his brother, police said.
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> Hazelwood Police Chief Gregg Hall said Runnoe was showing the maneuvers to his 29-year-old brother, Allen Runnoe, when the gun discharged about 1 a.m., hitting the elder brother in the head.

The gun fired! The gun discharged!

All by itself. No action necessary. It just went off.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7845 "2017-12-13T20:29:03Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> I love these descriptions from the article:The gun fired! The gun discharged!
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> All by itself. No action necessary. It just went off.

See, guns _do_ kill people!

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**Author:** ![SigMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@SigMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SigMan)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7846 "2017-12-13T20:52:25Z")

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Again, playing with loaded guns. They’ll never learn.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2017, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7847 "2017-12-13T23:00:53Z")

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Jumping off the couch, yelling “Freeze you chilli-chokin’ pepper-belly!” and shoulder rolling over the ottoman is not, “practicing tactical maneuvers.”

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2018, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7848 "2018-01-02T01:49:27Z")

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Another responsible gun owner, playing responsibly with his little toy, responsibly shoots his friend in the chest. Friend dies. Responsible gun owner charged with manslaughter.

> **[Fatal shooting in St. Louis County on New Years Eve was caused by a man...](https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/fatal-shooting-in-st-louis-county-on-new-years-eve/article_22f51c4d-2aec-5b65-be0d-80f967bab341.html#tracking-source=home-latest-1)**
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> Police say the man was playing with a semi-automatic handgun in a parked car when he shot the victim.

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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2018, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7849 "2018-01-02T02:20:41Z")

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> [@Bayard](#):
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> Another responsible gun owner, playing responsibly with his little toy, responsibly shoots his friend in the chest. Friend dies. Responsible gun owner charged with manslaughter.
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> [Fatal shooting in St. Louis County on New Years Eve was caused by a man playing with a gun](http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/fatal-shooting-in-st-louis-county-on-new-years-eve/article_22f51c4d-2aec-5b65-be0d-80f967bab341.html#tracking-source=home-latest-1)

“Playing with a gun” and “responsible” are contradictory.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2018, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7850 "2018-01-02T02:24:27Z")

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> [@Lumpy](#):
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> “Playing with a gun” and “responsible” are contradictory.

Well spotted!

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**Author:** ![SigMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@SigMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SigMan)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2018, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7851 "2018-01-02T02:53:29Z")

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> [@Bayard](#):
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> Another responsible gun owner, playing responsibly with his little toy, responsibly shoots his friend in the chest. Friend dies. Responsible gun owner charged with manslaughter.
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> [Fatal shooting in St. Louis County on New Years Eve was caused by a man playing with a gun](http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/fatal-shooting-in-st-louis-county-on-new-years-eve/article_22f51c4d-2aec-5b65-be0d-80f967bab341.html#tracking-source=home-latest-1)

Heavy on sarcasm hey? 🆒

Won’t any one learn to unload first before fooling around with a gun? Why do you idiots think accidents won’t happen to you?

You idiots are already an accident, your daddy didn’t pull out in time. :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2018, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7852 "2018-01-02T15:51:43Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> [Rifle calibers](https://www.tcarms.com/firearms/interchangeable-platforms/g2-contender#barrels) run from 17 HMR to 45 Colt/410 Bore(except California).

I think you’re suggesting the gun-grabbing pussies of California have banned 45 Colt/410 Bore. :eek: Is that right? I hope there’s plans to nuke those socialist sons of bitches.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2018, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7853 "2018-01-02T15:59:18Z")

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> [@Bayard](#):
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> Two drunk brothers at 1:00 AM with a gun. One of them starts showing off his “tactical maneuvers”. It goes about as well as you’d expect. The show off waited till after 9:00 to tell anyone that he’d just shot his brother. And even then, he didn’t call 911 but instead called his parents, who seem to have an ounce of sense, as they immediately called 911.

He was following the wise example of former Vice Gun\_Maniac-in-Chief Dick Cheney. Shooting his brother was affectionate play (and I hope the brother apologized for being shot), but the shooter needed to wait a while before his blood alcohol level was tested.

Very smart. His parents must be proud.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2018, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7854 "2018-01-02T16:52:50Z")

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> [@SigMan](#):
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> Why do you idiots think accidents won’t happen to you?

Because the Bad Guys are always other people. Typically less All-American-looking, of course.

And they aren’t really accidents, are they?

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**Author:** ![SigMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@SigMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SigMan)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2018, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7855 "2018-01-02T18:26:40Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> And they aren’t really accidents, are they?

No, they’re not but I should’ve put it in quotes. They’ll say they’re “accidents.” :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2018, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7856 "2018-01-03T05:37:28Z")

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You gotta admit that his tactical maneuvers worked.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7857 "2018-01-27T05:38:53Z")

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A Congressional hearing [considered an amendment that would allow a study of gun violence](https://youtu.be/WZKMSyyvUEI?t=2m28s). I know that in “American democracy” the fucking Republican stooge leaders just do whatever the fuck they want, because they gerrymandered districts and suppressed Democratic votes, but …

… just out of academic curiosity, if you click and listen to the vote, does it seem like there were _really_ more Nos than Ayes?

(I admit there probably really were more Nos — how could a Gopster dare defy the NRA — but maybe they’re self-aware enough to be ashamed of their whorish behavior that they whispered the 'No’s.)

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7858 "2018-01-27T17:31:35Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> A Congressional hearing [considered an amendment that would allow a study of gun violence](https://youtu.be/WZKMSyyvUEI?t=2m28s). I know that in “American democracy” the fucking Republican stooge leaders just do whatever the fuck they want, because they gerrymandered districts and suppressed Democratic votes, but …
> 
> … just out of academic curiosity, if you click and listen to the vote, does it seem like there were _really_ more Nos than Ayes?
> 
> (I admit there probably really were more Nos — how could a Gopster dare defy the NRA — but maybe they’re self-aware enough to be ashamed of their whorish behavior that they whispered the 'No’s.)

That’s what roll call votes are supposed to be for.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7859 "2018-02-15T04:06:04Z")

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Waiting for the worthless, rotten gun filth – including the worthless, rotten gun filth on this very Board – to start circling the wagons in the wake of today’s Florida high-school massacre.

I know! Let’s just arm all the high-school students. That should solve the problem.

Fucking gun filth.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7860 "2018-02-15T04:24:40Z")

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Now is not the time to discuss it. We must let the families have time to grieve. Then we have to let the police do their work. Then it will be NIT Bracket time. And fretting about taxes. Then …

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7861 "2018-02-15T06:32:48Z")

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Google “Stonekettle Station Bang Bang Crazy series” plus “Stonekettle Station The Seven Stages of Gun Violence”.

Read 'em.

Weep.

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