# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 29, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729 "2013-01-29T19:01:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 396
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7902 "2018-02-23T11:40:40Z")
[Pennsylvania church plans blessing ceremony for AR-15s](http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/375075-pa-church-invites-couples-to-bring-ar-15s-to-church-for) ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7903 "2018-02-23T11:50:05Z")
Churches aren’t taxed why? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7904 "2018-02-23T13:26:58Z")
“It’s not surprising, then, they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.” - Barack Obama ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7905 "2018-02-23T13:39:44Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > Churches aren’t taxed why? Damned good question. I can understand why their _income_ isn’t taxed, since they’re nonprofits. But why they get a free ride on other taxes (property taxes, sales taxes, etc.), that part I don’t understand. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7906 "2018-02-23T13:44:33Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > [Pennsylvania church plans blessing ceremony for AR-15s](http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/375075-pa-church-invites-couples-to-bring-ar-15s-to-church-for) “Blessed are the shooters, for [del]theirs[/del] to their victims is the Kingdom of Heaven. Express lane.” ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7907 "2018-02-23T14:01:35Z")
JFTR, [this is a Moonie church](http://thetimes-tribune.com/news/controversial-wayne-county-church-urges-couples-to-bring-ar-15-rifles-to-blessing-ceremony-1.2304229). > [@](#): > > “All of the weapons in the ceremony will be checked to make sure they are unloaded, with a zip tie so that no bullets can be inserted,” Richard A. Panzer, Sanctuary Church president, said in an email. “We are inviting local and state police to be on the premises, so that everything goes safely.” > > Sanctuary Church is led by the Rev. Hyung Jin Moon, whose late father, Sun Myung Moon, founded the Unification Church in the 1950s. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7908 "2018-02-23T14:45:12Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > No, no its not. Its just liberal editorials. He trades on his military background for some credibility among liberals but he does the same spinning and cherrypicking as any other talking head liberal or conservative. Spoken like a true cosplay warrior. His actual knowledge and proficiency is one valuable as long as he’s saying things that make my tummy hurt less. Seems like you fuckers done shot up the wrong kids this time, Kommander Kwikdraw. They’re coming. Better go curl up in your safe space. ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7909 "2018-02-23T18:18:23Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > Churches aren’t taxed why? A number of reasons: First, they were regarded as a public good or even a social necessity which should get a tax break. Second, there was a sort of “render unto Caesar” mentality that God’s house shouldn’t be taxed. And finally there were lots of really ugly precedents in Europe during the Reformation and Counter-Reformation, including the use of punitive taxes to suppress the “wrong” religion. ---
**Author:** ![SantaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/da6949/32.png) [@SantaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SantaMan)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7910 "2018-02-23T18:39:59Z")
As I understand it, non-profit organizations, religious or otherwise, do not pay taxes. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7911 "2018-02-23T19:38:57Z")
Police search a high school student’s home after a school discussion about how the square root symbol looks like a gun. [https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/88f445a0-c3be-3f30-afd6-8ee58fac44ff/ss\_students-in-louisiana-thought.html](https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/88f445a0-c3be-3f30-afd6-8ee58fac44ff/ss_students-in-louisiana-thought.html) ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7912 "2018-02-23T20:12:00Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Police search a high school student’s home after a school discussion about how the square root symbol looks like a gun. > [https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/88f445a0-c3be-3f30-afd6-8ee58fac44ff/ss\_students-in-louisiana-thought.html](https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/88f445a0-c3be-3f30-afd6-8ee58fac44ff/ss_students-in-louisiana-thought.html) well, [of course it does](http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/shivers/autoweapons.html) ---
**Author:** ![SigMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@SigMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SigMan)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2018, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7913 "2018-02-23T23:14:04Z")
Proof that guns are not to be blamed for school shootings. This is at home. > **[VIDEO: Mother walks into South San HS to prove district's need for extra...](https://www.ksat.com/news/2018/02/23/video-mother-walks-into-south-san-hs-to-prove-districts-need-for-extra-security/)** > > A San Antonio mother is pressing the South San Independent School District to consider advancing security measures to all of its schools after she documented how easy it was for her to walk into her daughter’s South San High School. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2018, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7914 "2018-02-24T02:48:47Z")
Yep, that is proof all right. Anyone could just walk on campus with a box of throwing stars, pull the alarm and start taking out students left and right. ---
**Author:** ![SigMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@SigMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SigMan)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2018, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7915 "2018-02-24T03:08:13Z")
Did you see the part where the school district wants to file trespassing charges on her? Really? She exposed them. Her daughter’s in that school and she has every right to test them. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2018, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7916 "2018-02-24T03:33:13Z")
> [@SigMan](#): > > Proof that guns are not to be blamed for school shootings. This is at home. > > [VIDEO: Mother walks into South San HS to prove district's need for extra security](https://www.ksat.com/news/mother-walks-into-south-san-hs-unseen-to-prove-districts-need-for-extra-security) Yeah, nobody got shot and nobody died and there were no guns. How does that prove guns are not to blame? If Nikolas Cruz walked around the campus for 20 minutes and then left, nobody would have heard of him. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2018, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7917 "2018-02-24T03:52:18Z")
> [@SigMan](#): > > Did you see the part where the school district wants to file trespassing charges on her? > > Really? She exposed them. Her daughter’s in that school and she has every right to test them. Come on, when I went to urban HS a few decades ago, we had minimal security. School shootings were unheard of. I agree that guns are not **the** problem, but with fewer of them, the problem would be far smaller. The roots of the problem are deep, and we can disagree about what to do, but to say that guns are not a relevant part of it is disingenuous. ---
**Author:** ![SigMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@SigMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SigMan)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2018, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7918 "2018-02-24T14:34:53Z")
I agree. At this stage we have to have gun control because of too much mental horseshit. Watch YouTube and watch road rage, arguments, violent behavior, bullying, gangs, porch thefts, etc. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2018, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7919 "2018-02-24T16:34:39Z")
> [@SigMan](#): > > I agree. At this stage we have to have gun control because of too much mental horseshit. Watch YouTube and watch road rage, arguments, violent behavior, bullying, gangs, porch thefts, etc. [Anything but the guns.](https://imgur.com/a/aa2JU) ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2018, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7920 "2018-02-24T20:43:36Z")
> [@SigMan](#): > > I agree. At this stage we have to have gun control because of too much mental horseshit. Watch YouTube and watch road rage, arguments, violent behavior, bullying, gangs, porch thefts, etc. By the same token, is it realistic to think that sharply limiting access to guns would be as effective in the USA as it was in Britain or Australia? Looking at different countries, it sometimes seems like the effectiveness of gun control is inversely proportional to how badly it’s needed. ---
**Author:** ![SigMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@SigMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SigMan)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2018, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7921 "2018-02-24T21:11:53Z")
Hell no but nobody’s weeding out the sickos to keep them from accessing guns. Nobody’s doing their jobs. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729.md?page=395) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729.md?page=397)