# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 29, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729 "2013-01-29T19:01:55Z")\
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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2018, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7922 "2018-02-26T20:53:35Z")

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An elementary school in Pennsylvania is closing on Wednesday because a nearby church is having a ceremony in which they are encouraging people to bring their AR 15s for consecration.

> **[Pennsylvania school cancels classes over nearby church ceremony featuring AR-15s](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/wallenpaupack-south-elementary-school-to-close-for-church-ceremony-featuring-ar-15-rifles/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=48558165)**
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> Church officials say that weapons will be unloaded, secured with zip ties and checked at the door

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2018, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7923 "2018-02-26T21:03:02Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> An elementary school in Pennsylvania is closing on Wednesday because a nearby church is having a ceremony in which they are encouraging people to bring their AR 15s for consecration.  
> [https://www.cbsnews.com/news/wallenpaupack-south-elementary-school-to-close-for-church-ceremony-featuring-ar-15-rifles/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=48558165](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/wallenpaupack-south-elementary-school-to-close-for-church-ceremony-featuring-ar-15-rifles/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=48558165)

Yeah, those people are normal.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2018, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7924 "2018-02-26T21:39:57Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> An elementary school in Pennsylvania is closing on Wednesday because a nearby church is having a ceremony in which they are encouraging people to bring their AR 15s for consecration.  
> [https://www.cbsnews.com/news/wallenpaupack-south-elementary-school-to-close-for-church-ceremony-featuring-ar-15-rifles/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=48558165](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/wallenpaupack-south-elementary-school-to-close-for-church-ceremony-featuring-ar-15-rifles/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=48558165)

But will they be consecrating the Holy Hand Grenade too?

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2018, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7925 "2018-02-26T22:00:10Z")

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I believe this counts as “stupid gun news”:

Georgia’s lieutenant governor Casey “Sunshine Band” Cagle, eager to dispel the scurrilous characterization of suck-up politicians being shamelessly in the pocket of the gun lobby, announced he will [block any legislation offering tax incentives to Delta Airlines](http://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/375646-georgia-lt-gov-threatens-delta-unless-it-restores-relationship-with-nra) because he’s butthurt over them ending their 2-10% fare discount for NRA members attending the annual convention in Dallas.

"“Corporations cannot attack conservatives and expect us not to fight back,” Cagle tweeted.”

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2018, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7926 "2018-02-26T22:01:01Z")

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> [@Evil\_Economist](#):
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> Yeah, those people are normal.

How normal, you ask? The World Peace and Unification church? Yes, that is correct: they were Moonies, but too crazy for orthodox Moonie-ism. Rather like the way Daesh was too crazy for al Qaeda.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 10:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7927 "2018-02-27T10:40:36Z")

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Bad guy with gun holding 100 people hostage in a church is stopped by good guys **without** guns.

[Then the police arrive and shoot the good guy who has taken the bad guy’s gun away](http://abc7amarillo.com/news/local/amarillo-man-accidentally-shot-by-police-speaks-out-about-the-shooting).

Didn’t they see the white hat that identified him as a good guy?

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7928 "2018-02-27T15:53:33Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Bad guy with gun holding 100 people hostage in a church is stopped by good guys **without** guns.
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> [Then the police arrive and shoot the good guy who has taken the bad guy’s gun away](http://abc7amarillo.com/news/local/amarillo-man-accidentally-shot-by-police-speaks-out-about-the-shooting).
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> Didn’t they see the white hat that identified him as a good guy?

Hey, cops arrive to an active shooter situation, pumped full of adrenaline, of course they’re going to blast away at the gun holder bangbangbang!

Now, if it had been the typical amateur Good Guy With A Gun, he’d have coolly analyzed the situation, calmly ignoring all the hysterical chaos around him, and with rock-steady nerves have made the correct decision.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7929 "2018-02-27T18:48:36Z")

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Stoneman Douglas student David Hogg is [being mean to guns](http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/375595-erick-erickson-florida-shooting-survivor-is-a-high-school-bully). He is **a Bully**. Perhaps he should not have failed to die that day.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2018, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7930 "2018-02-27T19:28:14Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> An elementary school in Pennsylvania is closing on Wednesday because a nearby church is having a ceremony in which they are encouraging people to bring their AR 15s for consecration.  
> [https://www.cbsnews.com/news/wallenpaupack-south-elementary-school-to-close-for-church-ceremony-featuring-ar-15-rifles/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=48558165](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/wallenpaupack-south-elementary-school-to-close-for-church-ceremony-featuring-ar-15-rifles/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=48558165)

I had to click. This doesn’t appear to be The\_Onion-style satire. American gun lovers really are this sick.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 10:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7931 "2018-02-28T10:25:44Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> Stoneman Douglas student David Hogg is [being mean to guns](http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/375595-erick-erickson-florida-shooting-survivor-is-a-high-school-bully). He is **a Bully**. Perhaps he should not have failed to die that day.

That is some spectacular snowflakery on Erickson’s part.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7932 "2018-02-28T18:31:05Z")

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Gee, maybe that armed-teacher thing isn’t such a hot idea after all…

[Teacher taken into custody after reports of shots fired at Dalton High School](http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/breakingnews/story/2018/feb/28/police-responding-report-shots-fired-dalton-high-school/464838/)

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7933 "2018-02-28T18:33:08Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> Churches aren’t taxed why?

Because they supposedly are religious and do charity work and SUPPOSEDLY (hahahahahahaha) stay out of politics.

Or something.

That’s all I got.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7934 "2018-02-28T18:35:48Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> “Blessed are the shooters, for [del]theirs[/del] to their victims is the Kingdom of Heaven. Express lane.”

Can I bring my Holy Hand Grenade Of Antioch?

"And Saint Atila raised the hand grenade up on high saying, ‘Oh, Lord, bless this thy hand grenade that with it thou mayest blow thy enemies to tiny bits, in thy mercy.’

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7935 "2018-02-28T18:38:09Z")

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> [@Lumpy](#):
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> By the same token, is it realistic to think that sharply limiting access to guns would be as effective in the USA as it was in Britain or Australia? Looking at different countries, it sometimes seems like the effectiveness of gun control is inversely proportional to how badly it’s needed.

So then … do nothing?

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7936 "2018-02-28T18:39:34Z")

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> [@SigMan](#):
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> Hell no but nobody’s weeding out the sickos to keep them from accessing guns. Nobody’s doing their jobs.

And this. Nobody is keeping sickos, mental cases, convicted felons, and people with a history of violence from getting weapons.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7937 "2018-02-28T18:42:47Z")

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Just a year ago, Trump proudly signed an order countermanding Obama’s that would have permitted more sharing of mental health information in background checks.

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**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7938 "2018-02-28T19:40:30Z")

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> [@Lumpy](#):
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> By the same token, is it realistic to think that sharply limiting access to guns would be as effective in the USA as it was in Britain or Australia? Looking at different countries, it sometimes seems like the effectiveness of gun control is inversely proportional to how badly it’s needed.

> [@SteveG1](#):
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> So then … do nothing?

Doing nothing is better than a half-assed compromise that has the worst features of both ends of the debate and the benefits of neither. It’s like arguing that just because you can’t swim from Los Angeles to Hawaii doesn’t mean that you shouldn’t at least “try” by swimming as far as you can. Sometimes compromise really _doesn’t_ work.

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**Author:** ![SigMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@SigMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SigMan)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7939 "2018-02-28T19:51:03Z")

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Funny thing about the middle east. They all, including kids, carry AK47s and yet they use suicide vests to commit mass murders.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [February 28, 2018, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7940 "2018-02-28T22:41:21Z")

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Keep it down. Fucking NRA will want one of those in every house too.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2018, 8:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7941 "2018-03-01T08:11:46Z")

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San Francisco police shot 65 rounds at a suspect. And missed with all of them.  
[7 San Francisco police officers fired 65 shots at murder suspect - CBS News](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/san-francisco-police-officers-fired-65-shots-at-murder-suspect/)?

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