# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 29, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729 "2013-01-29T19:01:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2018, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7962 "2018-03-02T17:03:16Z")

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> [@Lumpy](#):
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> By what **the banners** who came out of the woodwork since the Florida shooting have been saying, yeah it pretty much looks that way.

(bolding mine)

I propose that if all proponents of gun control are going to labeled as “banners” by the pro-gun side, the gun control crowd is fully justified in referring to pro-gun people as “murderers”.

Anyone object?

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2018, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7963 "2018-03-02T17:35:39Z")

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If you have a long, narrow piece of cloth exhorting the elimination of firearms, is that a banner banner?

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2018, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7964 "2018-03-02T17:36:44Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> (bolding mine)
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> I propose that if all proponents of gun control are going to labeled as “banners” by the pro-gun side, the gun control crowd is fully justified in referring to pro-gun people as “murderers”.
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> Anyone object?

Works for me.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2018, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7965 "2018-03-02T17:57:42Z")

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A billboard in Las Vegas for the “battlefield vegas” shooting range was [vandalized](https://www.reviewjournal.com/local/local-las-vegas/vandalized-las-vegas-billboard-says-shoot-a-school-kid/) to read “Shoot a School Kid only $29”. The entire ad has been removed.

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**Author:** ![Sicks\_Ate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Sicks\_Ate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sicks_Ate)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2018, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7966 "2018-03-02T19:41:13Z")

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> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> My cousin and I (both past-middle-age ladies, occasional shooters) were at the range one day, popping away with our .22 pistols at 20-yard targets, when in comes a town policeman to practice before his upcoming proficiency testing.
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> Dunno what he was shooting, except it was higher caliber than our popguns, he couldn’t shoot as accurately at half the distance as we were, and after a little while his gun jammed and he couldn’t get it unjammed, even after getting on the phone to the police gun honcho. I let him have the screwdriver in my shooting bag when we wrapped up our session, and we left him still struggling to unjam his weapon.
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> So reassuring… :rolleyes:

Yeeeaaahh…I figured cops as a whole would be pretty damn good shots until 1) I learned what their actual annual qualification requirements are, 2) I learned that some actually fail and have to re-qual and 3) I, a lowly civilian who rarely shot after I left the military, actually outshot the majority of a SWAT team.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2018, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7967 "2018-03-02T20:21:35Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> (bolding mine)
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> I propose that if all proponents of gun control are going to labeled as “banners” by the pro-gun side, the gun control crowd is fully justified in referring to pro-gun people as “murderers”.
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> Anyone object?

Cowards. Fear defines the right.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2018, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7968 "2018-03-02T20:51:58Z")

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> [@The\_Tooth](#):
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> Cowards. Fear defines the right.

Cowardly Murderers?

Craven Killers?

Spineless Slaughterers?

Alarmist Assassins?

Gutless Genocide?

Poltroon Punk?

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**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2018, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7969 "2018-03-02T22:26:02Z")

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This week’s New Yorker magazine has an article about Marion Hammer, the NRA lobbyist who singlehandedly controls the Florida legislature with an iron fist.

It’s very depressing.

[https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/03/05/the-nra-lobbyist-behind-floridas-pro-gun-policies](https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/03/05/the-nra-lobbyist-behind-floridas-pro-gun-policies)

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2018, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7970 "2018-03-02T22:34:37Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> A billboard in Las Vegas for the “battlefield vegas” shooting range was [vandalized](https://www.reviewjournal.com/local/local-las-vegas/vandalized-las-vegas-billboard-says-shoot-a-school-kid/) to read “Shoot a School Kid only $29”. The entire ad has been removed.

We have a very active group of graffiti/street artists here in Las Vegas. As long as they keep their shit off the natural terrain (like in the canyons and under waterfalls), I think they’re great. This would be an instance of them being great.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2018, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7971 "2018-03-02T22:43:46Z")

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Missed the edit window but I see that the story did in fact mention INDECLINE, one of our most persistent and prolific street artists/art groups.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2018, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7972 "2018-03-02T22:57:26Z")

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A: [Pasadena Police Lt. Vasken Gourdikian](https://apnews.com/0d75ef84a81b4fd7b1ef04c4481087ba/California-police-lieutenant-arrested-on-gun-selling-charges).

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> Gourdikian, who worked as the police department’s spokesman until he was placed on leave last year, used his status as a police officer to buy guns that weren’t available to the general public and then re-sold the guns, prosecutors said.
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> As a police officer, he was able to purchase so-called “off-roster” handguns, which aren’t available to the public and aren’t listed in a catalog of certified handguns maintained by the state, authorities said.
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> Gourdikian posted on online gun message boards that he had weapons that were brand new and in the box, court documents said.

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> Pasadena Police Lt. Vasken Gourdikian was arrested Friday morning and is charges with illegally selling more than 100 firearms between March 2014 and February 2017.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2018, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7973 "2018-03-03T20:28:07Z")

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I am going to say that this qualifies for this thread: an Oklahoma school is [bulletproof shelters in their classrooms](http://abcnews.go.com/US/oklahoma-elementary-school-installs-bulletproof-shelters-classrooms/story?id=53409001).

This bothers me a lot.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2018, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7974 "2018-03-05T17:03:30Z")

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[Man Shot At His Party After Putting On Bulletproof Vest](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/man-shot-at-his-party-after-putting-on-bulletproof-vest/ar-BBJRwEG)

Dumb on so many levels.

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> A forensic team is examining the evidence to see whether the bullet hit the vest or not.

What? He was supposed to aim at the vest?

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2018, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7975 "2018-03-05T18:03:01Z")

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Why do you need a forensic team to see if there’s a bullet-shaped chunk missing from the vest?

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7976 "2018-03-09T19:46:34Z")

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[‘Guns in churches’ bill passes Oklahoma House, would extend stand-your-ground immunity](http://www.montereycountyweekly.com/news/national/guns-in-churches-bill-passes-oklahoma-house-would-extend-stand/article_c6dc37fa-2fa4-5d6e-8a64-f3756df5af7d.html)

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> “Why should we give an open shooting gallery to whoever wants to come in and do whatever they will?” Rep. John Bennett, R-Sallisaw, said before reading a list of church shootings during the past 20 years. “It clearly states in the Bible to defend ourselves. … Jesus was not a pacifist.”

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7977 "2018-03-09T20:14:04Z")

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A man wearing body armor and carrying an automatic weapon has entered the California state veterans’ home north of San Francisco. Access to the home has been closed by police.  
[http://www.sacbee.com/news/state/article204351519.html#emlnl=Breaking\_Newsletter](http://www.sacbee.com/news/state/article204351519.html#emlnl=Breaking_Newsletter)

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**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7978 "2018-03-09T20:27:44Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> A man wearing body armor and carrying an automatic weapon has entered the California state veterans’ home north of San Francisco. Access to the home has been closed by police.  
> [http://www.sacbee.com/news/state/article204351519.html#emlnl=Breaking\_Newsletter](http://www.sacbee.com/news/state/article204351519.html#emlnl=Breaking_Newsletter)

Beautiful estate. Just how much would that building and land be worth, sitting near Yountville in the heart of the Napa Valley?

Assuming he doesn’t live there, I hope the police are able to resolve the situation without any further injuries. Or if he’s threatening people, killing the guy dead right there works too.

FWIW, I strongly doubt his weapon is an automatic one, and that he has body armor. Still sounds like a very deadly threat to the residents and I hope the residents escape without further harm.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7979 "2018-03-09T21:07:12Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> [‘Guns in churches’ bill passes Oklahoma House, would extend stand-your-ground immunity](http://www.montereycountyweekly.com/news/national/guns-in-churches-bill-passes-oklahoma-house-would-extend-stand/article_c6dc37fa-2fa4-5d6e-8a64-f3756df5af7d.html)

Why don’t they simply pray any crazed gunman away? Or call down the power of Jeebus to help them?

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**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7980 "2018-03-09T21:36:11Z")

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God helps those who help themselves.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/7981 "2018-03-09T22:11:28Z")

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> [@Projammer](#):
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> God helps those who help themselves.

Which is why thoughts and prayers are worthless.

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