# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 29, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729 "2013-01-29T19:01:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 403
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8042 "2018-03-20T12:15:26Z")
My understanding of FERPA is that the school can’t release information about student disciplinary matters, so we’re probably not going to get more details from them. Have the students or their parents made any statements on the issue? I see lots of quotes from third parties, but no confirmation of the facts of the matter. If the story is as presented in the original report – the students just posted pictures of themselves at a range after school hours – then yes, this is stupid. I’d like to get more facts though. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8043 "2018-03-20T14:26:34Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > If the story is as presented in the original report – the students just posted pictures of themselves at a range after school hours – then yes, this is stupid. I’d like to get more facts though. The _Asbury Park Press_ [reports](https://www.app.com/story/news/education/2018/03/20/lacey-second-amendment-rights/440534002/) (my bold): > [@](#): > > School Superintendent Craig Wigley said information circulated on social media about the incident was “incorrect," and noted that school officials were unable to talk about the incident because of the students’ privacy rights. > > Wigley and school board attorney Chris Supsie said\*\* the school’s weapons policy was not invoked, and no student has been disciplined under it\*\*. The superintendent added that no rights were violated but that the school district’s weapons policy would be modified for clarity. > > \ > > Supsie said the district’s existing policy is being clarified so that it would apply to a student who performed a criminal activity, even off-campus, using a firearm; was found to possess an illegal firearm; or brought any firearm onto school property or a school bus. > > School board President Robert C. Klaus II said the board was not anti-gun, and noted that he as well as a subset of the board are members of the National Rifle Association. So, I’d still like to find out more about this case. Is it really a case of a school overreacting and violating a couple of Amendments, or is it a case of students being punished for something else and third parties glomming onto the case to advance their agendas? Unfortunately, we may never know since the school can’t divulge details and the families apparently aren’t talking. * * * On an unrelated note, I posed this question based on reports that the FEC had launched an investigation into allegations that the NRA had acted as a conduit for Russian funds to the Trump campaign: > [@Bayard](#): > > Anyone? Any NRA members want to comment on this? Granted, it’s still under investigation, but if it does turn out that the NRA passed money from Russians to the Trump campaign, will you continue to support the organization? It turns out that the reports of the FEC investigation were premature. TPM has isued a [correction](https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/fec-no-real-investigation-nra-russia-yet), saying: > [@](#): > > News broke late last week that the Federal Election Commission had opened a preliminary inquiry into whether Russians illegally channeled money to the National Rifle Association to support Donald Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign. > > But the FEC’s move, which came after a complaint from a Democratic group, amounts to little more than a standard response, experts say. It will likely be months before the matter moves up through the appropriate channels and the controversy-averse panel of commissioners votes on whether to launch a formal investigation. And they’re highly unlikely to vote to do so. So, the FEC probably isn’t going to take up the case. I hope the allegations are being looked into, and ISTR that Mueller’s team was supposed to have taken an interest. But, in the interest of accuracy, it should be noted that the earlier reports saying the FEC was investigating were incorrect. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8044 "2018-03-23T12:33:17Z")
YouTube has started removing some gun videos. So some producers of gun-related videos are taking their content to Pornhub. > **[Restricted By YouTube, Gun Enthusiasts Are Taking Their Videos To Pornhub](https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/03/22/596161899/restricted-by-youtube-gun-enthusiasts-are-taking-their-videos-to-pornhub?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=20180322)** > > YouTube is banning instructional and promotional firearm videos. Great. So now when I’m searching for fetish porn I have to be careful I don’t run into any really crazy shit. Check out the haircut on the guy pictured in the linked article. The shaved head used to be the sign of the white supremacist. Now it’s the “fashy” cut. I really hope those assholes don’t start ruining porn for the rest of us. I mean this somewhat seriously: porn sites tend to be some of the least political and judgemental places on the internet. We got a good thing going here, people! Don’t let it get screwed up! ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8045 "2018-03-23T13:31:15Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > YouTube has started removing some gun videos. So some producers of gun-related videos are taking their content to Pornhub. > > [Restricted By YouTube, Gun Enthusiasts Are Taking Their Videos To Pornhub : The Two-Way : NPR](https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/03/22/596161899/restricted-by-youtube-gun-enthusiasts-are-taking-their-videos-to-pornhub?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=20180322) > > Great. So now when I’m searching for fetish porn I have to be careful I don’t run into any really crazy shit. > > Check out the haircut on the guy pictured in the linked article. The shaved head used to be the sign of the white supremacist. Now it’s the “fashy” cut. I really hope those assholes don’t start ruining porn for the rest of us. I mean this somewhat seriously: porn sites tend to be some of the least political and judgemental places on the internet. We got a good thing going here, people! Don’t let it get screwed up! (A) YouTube had already started de-monetizing some gun-oriented channels last year. This had them turn to advertising/sales and which now is being also frowned upon. There is some concern that mere collectors’/instructional content will go with the bathwater. (B) Sorry to tell you but from what I gather Alt-Righters ARE increasingly showing up in porn sites. Because why wouldn’t they. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8046 "2018-03-23T16:13:49Z")
Just a couple of stories about good guys with guns that suddenly weren’t. [http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/man-extremely-drunk-killed-8-people-cookout-article-1.3859814](http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/man-extremely-drunk-killed-8-people-cookout-article-1.3859814) > [@](#): > > A Texas man who slaughtered eight people — including his estranged wife — with an AR-15 rifle during a cookout last year was extremely drunk when he committed the murders, [http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/family-doctor-kills-couple-compound-front-kids-article-1.3846659](http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/family-doctor-kills-couple-compound-front-kids-article-1.3846659) > [@](#): > > Police say the victims were helping Fadal’s mother move furniture on Sunday morning when Fadal fatally shot both of them with a rifle “for no apparent reason” just outside his gated compound in Seguin, KSAT reports. > > The Straits’ three young sons, who are between 7 and 10 years old, witnessed the shootings from the back seat of the family’s car, the outlet reports ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8047 "2018-03-23T16:16:08Z")
But they were other-wise law abiding citizens. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8048 "2018-03-23T17:39:20Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > Just a couple of stories about good guys with guns that suddenly weren’t. > > [http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/man-extremely-drunk-killed-8-people-cookout-article-1.3859814](http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/man-extremely-drunk-killed-8-people-cookout-article-1.3859814) > > [http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/family-doctor-kills-couple-compound-front-kids-article-1.3846659](http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/family-doctor-kills-couple-compound-front-kids-article-1.3846659) If there were some gooder guys with guns present, they probably could’ve stopped or at least limited the damage done by the formerly good guys with guns. Also, if the age for owning guns were lowered properly, those kids in the back of the car might’ve been elevated to good kids with guns and helped out. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8049 "2018-03-23T18:08:09Z")
Some religious dudes in Oregon have filed an initiative petition for a law to oppose (restrict or ban) assault weapons and +10 magazines. Merits of the question notwithstanding, a state legislator [posted to a FB group](http://www.oregonlive.com/politics/index.ssf/2018/03/republican_lawmaker_posts_info.html) the phone numbers and home addresses of the petition sponsors, urging group members to contact them. Now, this information is not particularly difficult to find. The state has an issue database that is publicly accessible, which is where he got it. But most people are not going to go to that much effort. In other words, the legislator is saying “these people want to take your toys away – here is where they live.” This sounds a bit like “stochastic terrorism”: suggesting or hinting at mischief and hoping the bad shit goes down. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2018, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8050 "2018-03-23T22:58:01Z")
[Virginia CCW holder threatens to shoot US Congressman and staff](https://www.politico.com/story/2018/03/23/man-arrested-for-threatening-to-murder-virginia-congressman-482193) > [@](#): > > “Scott is having an event this Saturday. I am going to get my shotgun and do something about this. I will just handle this myself," Godwin allegedly said to a Taylor staffer. He then pointed to two staffers in the room and said, “You two are next," authorities said. > > Godwin is expected to appear in a federal courthouse in Norfolk, Va. on Friday afternoon. The maximum penalty for threatening a member of Congress is 10 years in prison. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2018, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8051 "2018-03-24T19:07:00Z")
I wanted to post this in the _Gun Good News_ thread, but I couldn’t find it. [Raymond Tensing, who shot and killed an unarmed motorist for a minor traffic violation; lied about it; was charged with murder; and enjoyed two hung juries; has been awarded $350,000](https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/former-university-of-cincinnati-cop-who-killed-sam-dubose-awarded-350000-settlement_us_5ab521bde4b054d118e26d7c) — _money he’d never have gotten if he hadn’t shot and killed that nigger_. If this isn’t Good News for Gunmen, what would be? ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2018, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8052 "2018-03-24T19:17:59Z")
[**Positive** Gun News of the Day](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=773012), have at it. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2018, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8053 "2018-03-24T19:30:04Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > I wanted to post this in the _Gun Good News_ thread, but I couldn’t find it. > > [Raymond Tensing, who shot and killed an unarmed motorist for a minor traffic violation; lied about it; was charged with murder; and enjoyed two hung juries; has been awarded $350,000](https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/former-university-of-cincinnati-cop-who-killed-sam-dubose-awarded-350000-settlement_us_5ab521bde4b054d118e26d7c) — _money he’d never have gotten if he hadn’t shot and killed that nigger_. If this isn’t Good News for Gunmen, what would be? I put that in controversial encounters a few days ago. But sure, I suppose it is also a positive story from certain perspectives. Maybe “Officer vindicated in his shooting of unarmed black man after two hung juries wins nearly $350,000 for his service.” ---
**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2018, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8054 "2018-03-25T00:48:35Z")
[Guess we know where **Hurricane Ditka**](https://www.rawstory.com/2018/03/armed-white-men-showed-intimidate-kids-marchforyourlife-rallies-didnt-work/) was today. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2018, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8055 "2018-03-25T03:03:26Z")
> [@galen\_ubal](#): > > [Guess we know where **Hurricane Ditka**](https://www.rawstory.com/2018/03/armed-white-men-showed-intimidate-kids-marchforyourlife-rallies-didnt-work/) was today. It’s also a dumb PR move. Make carrying guns look horrible, since you’re carrying all that stuff to a rally full of unarmed protesters. And not just the minimum, but actually arming yourself like you think you’re some sort of paramilitary force. If nothing happens, you look bad. If something does happen, you look even worse. There’s nothing to gain by doing this. A sign with some guns saying they’re not the enemy, a few people carrying their normal guns, with signs saying they’re not a threat–that might look okay. But not this. So thanks for that, guys. It’s going to make for some awesome photos. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2018, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8056 "2018-03-25T03:14:00Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > (A) YouTube had already started de-monetizing some gun-oriented channels last year. This had them turn to advertising/sales and which now is being also frowned upon. There is some concern that mere collectors’/instructional content will go with the bathwater. > > (B) Sorry to tell you but from what I gather Alt-Righters ARE increasingly showing up in porn sites. Because why wouldn’t they. Sure, they can show up, but most porn sites tend to have rules about their content actually being porn. I’ve definitely seen non-porn taken down. If they don’t at lease put on a veneer of trying to titillate, I don’t think they’ll last too long there. And, yes, instructional content may go. The real concern is that news stories seem to also be being hit. The problem with YouTube is the algorithm is not a human that can understand what is actually problematic and what isn’t. Still, it’s better than Reddit. They just went through and quickly banned basically any sub that talked about guns, despite their rules only saying that using Reddit for sales was forbidden. They didn’t even warn the subs to give them a chance to work with the policy, adding rules and maybe setting up offsite stuff. At least the YouTubers can tell people to go to the porn sites. It’s not too unexpected, though. Reddit does these subreddit sweeps every time something gets in the news, and then goes back to the same-old-same-old after the news stories die down. It’s as predictable as YouTube changing the algorithm and then having it mess up for a while, not getting it ironed out before the next problem hits. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2018, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8057 "2018-03-25T03:40:24Z")
I was at the DC march today, and standing there in a sea of 800,000+ people, I couldn’t help but think of the gun stroking psychopaths on the board here - **bone** , **dumari ajashi** , **crafter man** , all the others… I reiterate, you motherfuckers shot up the wrong kids this time. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2018, 8:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8058 "2018-03-25T08:35:09Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > I was at the DC march today, and standing there in a sea of 800,000+ people, I couldn’t help but think of the gun stroking psychopaths on the board here - **bone** , **dumari ajashi** , **crafter man** , all the others… I reiterate, you motherfuckers shot up the wrong kids this time. [Moderating] Don’t call other posters “motherfuckers.” No warning issued. [/Moderating] ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2018, 9:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8059 "2018-03-25T09:09:45Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > It’s also a dumb PR move. Make carrying guns look horrible, since you’re carrying all that stuff to a rally full of unarmed protesters. And not just the minimum, but actually arming yourself like you think you’re some sort of paramilitary force. > > If nothing happens, you look bad. If something does happen, you look even worse. There’s nothing to gain by doing this. > > A sign with some guns saying they’re not the enemy, a few people carrying their normal guns, with signs saying they’re not a threat–that might look okay. But not this. > > So thanks for that, guys. It’s going to make for some awesome photos. Yep, good on these kids for not only publicizing this important issue, but getting the vermin to come out of the woodwork and show their true colors: “Look at us! We’re gun nuts, and we’re completely insensitive assholes! Not only that, but we’re _ **dangerous** _ insensitive assholes! _ **We** _ are the problem, but we’re too stupid to know it. Yay us!” ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2018, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8060 "2018-03-25T13:28:12Z")
Stay classy, NRA assholes! NRATV (that’s a thing?) host about Parkland survivors: “But they’ve also increasingly become targets: Their most prominent critics are people who see them less as survivors of a tragedy and more as pawns in a larger effort to influence gun policy. The latest attack came from Colion Noir, a host on NRATV who took to the airwaves on the eve of the Parkland teens-led March on Washington, telling them: “No one would know your names” if a student gunman hadn’t stormed into their school and killed three staff members and 14 students.” > **[NRA host taunts Parkland teens: ‘No one would know your names’ if classmates...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2018/03/24/nra-host-taunts-parkland-teens-no-one-would-know-your-names-if-classmates-were-still-alive/?utm_term=.c80dbea76a82)** > > Colion Noir has said the Parkland teens are pawns of a larger effort to destroy Second Amendment rights. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2018, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8061 "2018-03-25T21:29:02Z")
Rick Santorum today berated the protesters for exercising their rights and instead said instead of relying on others to pass laws – yes, he said that – they should deal with mass shootings by taking CPR classes instead. This is wholly emblematic of what rotten scum each and every member of the Republican Party is, without exception. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729.md?page=402) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729.md?page=404)