# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 29, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729 "2013-01-29T19:01:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 404
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2018, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8062 "2018-03-25T22:13:50Z")
Link? Anyway, I’m sure he’d bravely respond in the same manner if someone turned his workplace into a slaughterhouse. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2018, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8063 "2018-03-26T01:55:21Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Link? > Anyway, I’m sure he’d bravely respond in the same manner if someone turned his workplace into a slaughterhouse. [Link.](https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/25/politics/rick-santorum-guns-cnntv/index.html) ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2018, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8064 "2018-03-29T17:23:21Z")
Guy’s car gets stolen. Guy uses a tracking app to locate the car. Guy sees the apparent car thief getting into the car. Guy claims the car thief clutched at his waist, leading the car owner to fear that the thief was armed. Thus fearing for his safety, the car owner shoots the thief nine times. The thief turned out to be unarmed. > **[He tracked his stolen car to St. Charles and shot the man inside. Now the...](https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/he-tracked-his-stolen-car-to-st-charles-and-shot/article_59767ee5-3652-5c61-8cc4-55fa115d8dff.html)** > > Brandon Cauthen, 25, of O'Fallon, Mo. has been charged with armed criminal action and first-degree assault Now, given: 1) that police can be excused for shooting anyone who poses the vaguest threat; and 2) that citizen crime fighters can go start trouble with people and then gun them down when the encounter goes bad (at least n Florida); then, the shooter in this case should be good to go, right? He’s been charged, but there’s little chance he’ll be convicted. Right? That’s the way it works? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2018, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8065 "2018-03-29T17:27:54Z")
Depends. Which of them are black? In better news, a tip of the cap to Rep. Brian Mast (R-FL), who has shown the rare ability to take NRA money and campaign as a hard-core gun nut,[but still turn against them](http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/politics/fl-florida-school-shooting-brian-mast-gun-politics-20180321-story.html). Still, let’s see what he does other than talk. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2018, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8066 "2018-03-29T17:38:52Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Depends. Which of them are black? Oh, come on! That plays no part in how gun rights supporters see these cases. You know the NRA will dispatch Dana Loesch to defend the shooter any minute now. Sure, the shooter is a black guy, but he was defending his property and his life. Defensive Gun Use all the way! Come on, NRA! This is your wheelhouse. If Loesch is still too busy with the Philando Castile case, maybe Ted Nugent can handle this one. You can always count on the Nuge at times like this. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2018, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8067 "2018-03-29T18:11:41Z")
Yeah, I’ll be waiting for all the “Police fear for their lives cause a guy went for what could have been something, so they shot him” people to step right up and defend THIS guy, who faced the exact same situation. Right? He was entitled to shoot at the guy 9 times because he was afraid, right? ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2018, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8068 "2018-03-29T18:16:30Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > … in this case should be good to go, right? He’s been charged, but there’s little chance he’ll be convicted. Right? That’s the way it works? He left a witness. Big mistake. The police know better than to let a witness survive the incident. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2018, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8069 "2018-03-31T16:47:05Z")
Ted Nugent calls the Parkland survivors “mushy brained”, “liars”, and “soulless”. I guess because dehumanizing your political opponents seems like a good idea to him. > **[Ted Nugent slams 'mushy brained' Parkland survivors: 'They have no soul'](https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/people/2018/03/31/ted-nugent-slams-mushy-brained-parkland-survivors-they-have-no-soul/475554002/)** > > Ted Nugent isn't holding back his thoughts on those protesting against the National Rifle Association, including the Parkland shooting survivors. NRA members of the Dope: this guy represents you. Y’all OK with that? ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2018, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8070 "2018-03-31T17:10:35Z")
Dear NRA members, go fuck yourselves, all of you. Ted’s your guy, he’s on your board. Go to hell. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2018, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8071 "2018-03-31T20:23:14Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > Dear NRA members, go fuck yourselves, all of you. Ted’s your guy, he’s on your board. Go to hell. Dear World: DJT is my Bananadent. I am already in Hell (thanks to all my neighbors who voted for him). ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2018, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8072 "2018-04-01T11:39:20Z")
[Free high-capacity magazines given out at gun rights rally](http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/free-high-capacity-magazines-gun-rights-rally-54148977) ---
**Author:** ![Ca3799](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9f8e36/32.png) [@Ca3799](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ca3799)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2018, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8073 "2018-04-02T02:01:32Z")
"John Lott is, if not the most influential, certainly the most prolific “academic” in the gun debate. He has authored weekly columns in local newspapers on the horrors of gun free zones, published widely-distributed books on the ostensible benefits of right-to-carry laws, and his newest book The War on Guns has received rave reviews by prominent conservatives, like Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX), Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL), and Newt Gingrich… Our own multi-year investigation into Lott and his organization has uncovered a startling array of new ethical violations, ranging from the profoundly bizarre to the outright fraudulent. Here are just five of the most troubling incidents:" > **[The GOP’s favorite gun ‘academic’ is a fraud](https://thinkprogress.org/debunking-john-lott-5456e83cf326/)** > > The journalistic quest for neutrality has led to a sacrifice of intellectual integrity. Wow. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2018, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8074 "2018-04-02T03:53:20Z")
Lies, damned lies, and statistics. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2018, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8075 "2018-04-02T04:53:33Z")
Statistics are like paint. You can do all kinds of stuff with them. ---
**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2018, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8076 "2018-04-02T05:01:25Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > Ted Nugent calls the Parkland survivors “mushy brained”, “liars”, and “soulless”. I guess because dehumanizing your political opponents seems like a good idea to him. > > [Ted Nugent slams Parkland survivors: 'They have no soul'](https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/people/2018/03/31/ted-nugent-slams-mushy-brained-parkland-survivors-they-have-no-soul/475554002/) > > NRA members of the Dope: this guy represents you. Y’all OK with that? To be fair, their brains are mushy. Probably less than Nuge’s though. ---
**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2018, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8077 "2018-04-02T08:17:56Z")
I am concerned about the lost souls though. How did they lose their souls? Were they carelessly carrying them in their back pockets? Did the Nuge pilfer them? Is he a soul-reaper? Or just a soul-enthusiast? Either way he seems very interested in boy souls. [“I’ll take Boy’s Holes for 400 Alex”] ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2018, 8:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8078 "2018-04-02T08:54:45Z")
> [@Ca3799](#): > > "John Lott is, if not the most influential, certainly the most prolific “academic” in the gun debate. He has authored weekly columns in local newspapers on the horrors of gun free zones, published widely-distributed books on the ostensible benefits of right-to-carry laws, and his newest book The War on Guns has received rave reviews by prominent conservatives, like Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX), Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL), and Newt Gingrich… > > Our own multi-year investigation into Lott and his organization has uncovered a startling array of new ethical violations, ranging from the profoundly bizarre to the outright fraudulent. > > Here are just five of the most troubling incidents:" > > [The GOP’s favorite gun ‘academic’ is a fraud – ThinkProgress](https://thinkprogress.org/debunking-john-lott-5456e83cf326/) > > Wow. Jeez, when and how did ‘Mary Rosh’ get rehabilitated? Clearly the same old quack. > [@Bayard](#): > > Ted Nugent calls the Parkland survivors “mushy brained”, “liars”, and “soulless”. I guess because dehumanizing your political opponents seems like a good idea to him. > > [Ted Nugent slams Parkland survivors: 'They have no soul'](https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/people/2018/03/31/ted-nugent-slams-mushy-brained-parkland-survivors-they-have-no-soul/475554002/) > > NRA members of the Dope: this guy represents you. Y’all OK with that? And like a lot of uber-patriots who were of draft age during Vietnam, Nugent was of the opinion that the draft was only for lesser beings than him. [Joy Reid digs out his personal account](https://twitter.com/JoyAnnReid/status/980409392972615680) that he gave to High Times several years later of the extreme measures he went to, to get a 4-F. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2018, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8079 "2018-04-02T14:53:32Z")
> [@Ca3799](#): > > "John Lott is, if not the most influential, certainly the most prolific “academic” in the gun debate. He has authored weekly columns in local newspapers on the horrors of gun free zones, published widely-distributed books on the ostensible benefits of right-to-carry laws, and his newest book The War on Guns has received rave reviews by prominent conservatives, like Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX), Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL), and Newt Gingrich… > > Our own multi-year investigation into Lott and his organization has uncovered a startling array of new ethical violations, ranging from the profoundly bizarre to the outright fraudulent. > > Here are just five of the most troubling incidents:" > > [The GOP’s favorite gun ‘academic’ is a fraud – ThinkProgress](https://thinkprogress.org/debunking-john-lott-5456e83cf326/) > > Wow. Thanks for this. Even though I follow this stuff closer than the average person, I was not aware of the extent of John Lott’s fraud. Pathetic. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2018, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8080 "2018-04-02T22:00:02Z")
> [@Isamu](#): > > To be fair, their brains are mushy. Probably less than Nuge’s though. Terrible Ted was always a cowardly loud mouthed piece of shit. So of course he would attack kids. Remember, this “super patriot” was a pants shitting drat dodging coward. He thinks his right to blast shit to smithereens while dressed like some Village people version of “Small Soldiers” is his constitutional right, but he also thinks that these kids exercising free speech should be stopped. Or arrested? Fuck him. Liar. Coward. Hypocrite. All around Scumbag. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2018, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8081 "2018-04-03T21:06:24Z")
5 year old boy looking for candy finds gun and kills his 7 year old brother: > [@](#): > > The family of a 7-year-old boy who was killed on Saturday believe his younger brother accidentally shot him when he found a gun — while looking for candy… > > An account provided by police Monday confirmed that three brothers were inside the home upstairs, while adults including the boys’ parents were downstairs. Police said one of the boys got a handgun from another room and fired the shot. Police recovered the gun. > > Her god-sister, Erica Jones, is acting as the family spokesman. She said they believe Jermon’s 5-year-old brother walked into his parents’ bedroom in search of candy. When he opened a dresser drawer, he found a gun and carried it back to his brother’s bedroom. That’s when Jermon was shot as he sat in a chair playing a video game, Jones said. > **[Family believes St. Louis boy was looking for candy when he found a gun – and...](https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-courts/family-believes-st-louis-boy-was-looking-for-candy-when/article_d352935e-07e7-5ab0-84e9-e84d52be72fe.html)** > > The victim's 5-year-old brother found the gun in a dresser drawer in a bedroom, relatives said. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729.md?page=403) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729.md?page=405)