# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 29, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729 "2013-01-29T19:01:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 414
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8262 "2018-05-26T14:41:21Z")
While I was pursuing the latest post on the positive gun news of the day, I noted another headline [4-year-old accidentally shoots, kills 2-year-old brother after mistaking gun for toy](http://wgntv.com/2018/05/22/4-year-old-accidentally-shoots-kills-2-year-old-brother-after-mistaking-gun-for-toy/amp/) Headline is pretty self explanatory ---
**Author:** ![Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brown_eyed_girl/32/3574_2.png) [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brown_Eyed_Girl)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8263 "2018-05-26T16:31:42Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > While I was pursuing the latest post on the positive gun news of the day, I noted another headline > > [4-year-old accidentally shoots, kills 2-year-old brother after mistaking gun for toy](http://wgntv.com/2018/05/22/4-year-old-accidentally-shoots-kills-2-year-old-brother-after-mistaking-gun-for-toy/amp/) > > Headline is pretty self explanatory The best part: > [@](#): > > Neighbor Linda Eddy told WTVR she’s known the Aponte family for more than a decade. > > “There’s no way they would leave a loaded gun out,” she said. “They’re good people, good Christians good people, they take care of their children [and] make sure they have everything they need. I know this is going to be tragic to them.” No way a “good Christian” would take responsibility for the senseless death of a child. I also noted that the Sheriff’s department wants to help them, not charge them with a crime of not securing their guns resulting in death. I sympathize with their loss, but not to the extent that they should be absolved of legal responsibility for it. ---
**Author:** ![SaneBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@SaneBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaneBill)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8264 "2018-05-26T17:28:30Z")
> [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](#): > > I also noted that the Sheriff’s department wants to help them, not charge them with a crime of not securing their guns resulting in death. Are they white ? ( Can’t check out, the link doesn’t open because I’m in Europe ) ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8265 "2018-05-26T17:38:11Z")
> [@SaneBill](#): > > Are they white ? > ( Can’t check out, the link doesn’t open because I’m in Europe ) I am going to say probably, but the story makes no mention of ethnicity. The victim’s name was Tyler Aponte. The house was definitely white, though. ---
**Author:** ![Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brown_eyed_girl/32/3574_2.png) [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brown_Eyed_Girl)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8266 "2018-05-26T19:49:27Z")
> [@SaneBill](#): > > Are they white ? > ( Can’t check out, the link doesn’t open because I’m in Europe ) Not sure, but I would just as much chalk it up to middle class privilege that negates perceiving them as irresponsible and worthy of charging with a crime. If it were someone else’s child, though, I do wonder if the Sheriff would still want to do everything he could to help them. As a neighbor with young children at my house, I’d be furious to learn that firearms were so readily available in their house. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8267 "2018-05-26T19:51:21Z")
> [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](#): > > Not sure, but I would just as much chalk it up to middle class privilege that negates perceiving them as irresponsible and worthy of charging with a crime. If it were someone else’s child, though, I do wonder if the Sheriff would still want to do everything he could to help them. As a neighbor with young children at my house, I’d be furious to learn that firearms were so readily available in their house. It’s a sad tragedy when one of your kids kills another one of your kids. What is it when one of your kids kills someone else’s? ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8268 "2018-05-26T21:28:18Z")
From **Bone** ’s Happy, Happy, Gun, Gun thread, > [@Positive Gun News of the Day](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1340): > > For those too busy to click links, the shooter injured two teenage girls and an adult. It was apparently random and the attacker was definitely mentally ill. The armed citizens who shot him had an easy job identifying him as he was carrying the weapon openly and had on eye and ear protection commonly used at gun ranges. Both of them went to vehicles to retrieve their firearms and went to confront the shooter. Reportedly, they first tried to convince him to drop his weapon before shooting him. Yeah, so the heroes did good, killing a crazy person with a gun. A _ **crazy person with a gun** _. No one seems to know how to fix that. ---
**Author:** ![Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brown_eyed_girl/32/3574_2.png) [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brown_Eyed_Girl)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8269 "2018-05-26T22:40:10Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > It’s a sad tragedy when one of your kids kills another one of your kids. What is it when one of your kids kills someone else’s? I guess it depends on how much hysterical grief you can muster. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2018, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8270 "2018-05-27T03:51:50Z")
Hey, don’t look now, but an off-duty cop shot and killed an ‘intruder’ which happened to be his own brother, also a cop, who came to visit him. ['Intruder' slain in cop's home turns out to be his brother, a sheriff's deputy, police say | Fox News](http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/05/26/intruder-slain-in-cops-home-turns-out-to-be-his-brother-sheriffs-deputy-police-say.html)? Trigger happy murderer can’t even stop to identify his target before shooting his own damned brother. Fucking idiot. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2018, 10:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8271 "2018-05-27T10:06:50Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Hey, don’t look now, but an off-duty cop shot and killed an ‘intruder’ which happened to be his own brother, also a cop, who came to visit him. > > ['Intruder' slain in cop's home turns out to be his brother, a sheriff's deputy, police say | Fox News](http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/05/26/intruder-slain-in-cops-home-turns-out-to-be-his-brother-sheriffs-deputy-police-say.html)? > > Trigger happy murderer can’t even stop to identify his target before shooting his own damned brother. Fucking idiot. This should be in the Happy Happy Gun News thread. Gun nuts killing each other is good news. Did they have time to reproduce, or is Darwinian evolution get a boost? ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2018, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8272 "2018-05-27T14:11:10Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Hey, don’t look now, but an off-duty cop shot and killed an ‘intruder’ which happened to be his own brother, also a cop, who came to visit him. > > ['Intruder' slain in cop's home turns out to be his brother, a sheriff's deputy, police say | Fox News](http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/05/26/intruder-slain-in-cops-home-turns-out-to-be-his-brother-sheriffs-deputy-police-say.html)? > > Trigger happy murderer can’t even stop to identify his target before shooting his own damned brother. Fucking idiot. He’s a cop, so it must be justified. Of course, it was also a cop that was shot under the mistaken fear that it was an intruder, and that can never be justified. [head 'plodse] ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2018, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8273 "2018-05-27T15:33:57Z")
> [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](#): > > The best part: > > No way a “good Christian” would take responsibility for the senseless death of a child… Maybe police and reporters need to do a better job of reporting religious affiliations of shooters. I don’t recall a lot of killings in America by Hindus, Sikhs or Buddhists. Maybe Lutherans are the problem? What about Presbyterians? Are Mormons even considered “Christian”? ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2018, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8274 "2018-05-27T16:58:09Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > This should be in the Happy Happy Gun News thread. Gun nuts killing each other is good news. Did they have time to reproduce, or is Darwinian evolution get a boost? They both had several decades of failing to die under their belts, so there was time for that. However, there could be knock-on effects on their spawns’ lives that might ultimately result in some amount of gene pool skimming. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2018, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8275 "2018-05-27T20:03:02Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Hey, don’t look now, but an off-duty cop shot and killed an ‘intruder’ which happened to be his own brother, also a cop, who came to visit him. If not for those last details, this would be proudly presented to us in the fetish thread as a DGU With One Death. The rule seems to be that those are Positive if there’s a Bad Guy killed, although it’s never clear since the providers of those charming anecdotes almost never seem willing to actually discuss and explore them. From the perspective of the dead guy, though, it’s just one more tally for the butcher. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8276 "2018-05-29T14:20:11Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > He’s a cop, so it must be justified. > > Of course, it was also a cop that was shot under the mistaken fear that it was an intruder, and that can never be justified. > > [head 'plodse] What the hell is wrong with you? You may create a paradox that will destroy the universe with that kind of thinking! ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2018, 12:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8277 "2018-06-03T12:01:03Z")
[FBI agent does back flip while dancing, shoots bar patron in leg.](https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/back-flipping-fbi-agent-accientally-shoots-bar-patron_us_5b1391f3e4b02143b7cd1038) ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2018, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8278 "2018-06-03T13:26:07Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > [FBI agent does back flip while dancing, shoots bar patron in leg.](https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/back-flipping-fbi-agent-accientally-shoots-bar-patron_us_5b1391f3e4b02143b7cd1038) …and after the victim is shot, the agent holds both hands up in the air as if to say “Hey! Everything’s cool, man!” and walks away. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2018, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8279 "2018-06-03T15:58:12Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > …and after the victim is shot, the agent holds both hands up in the air as if to say “Hey! Everything’s cool, man!” and walks away. He also shoved it back into the small of his back, and I didn’t see a holster. Wonder if he has some wicked burns now. ---
**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2018, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8280 "2018-06-03T17:15:10Z")
The news clip states that “the gun was dislodged from its waistband holster and fell onto the floor” so no burns. Though I imagine his ass is quite tender after getting chewed out by his supervisor. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2018, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8281 "2018-06-03T20:56:47Z")
Not as tender as the leg of the guy he shot, and who is lucky to have survived. He’s part of the story too, yanno. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729.md?page=413) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729.md?page=415)