# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 29, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729 "2013-01-29T19:01:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2018, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8322 "2018-06-14T23:26:14Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> That was my inference. He shot himself in the leg while trying to shoot a raccoon on the pole. Do the math (or assume that there is some kind of flaw in his story).

The flaw in him was the hole that he created.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2018, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8323 "2018-06-15T23:08:02Z")

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Well, that thing that’s supposed to be nigh impossible has happened again: a gun fell to the floor and mysteriously discharged. In this case, a rifle leaning up against a wall fell over, went off, and shot the owner through both heels. Luckily, no one other than the responsible gun owner was harmed.

> **[‘There was so much blood’: Teen accidentally shot through both heels after...](https://wgno.com/news/there-was-so-much-blood-teen-accidentally-shot-through-both-heels-after-leaving-rifle-propped-in-corner/amp/)**
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> June 6th started out like any other night for Landon and Autumn Buss in their rural Lexington home. Autumn had just gotten home from work and Landon was getting ready to leave for his job at Subway…

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2018, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8324 "2018-06-16T13:08:05Z")

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People kill people.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2018, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8325 "2018-06-17T17:01:29Z")

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Late night arts festival in Trenton NJ turns into a shooting gallery. Twenty two injured, no fatalities reported. One suspect is dead, one is in custody.

It appears that a dispute among several people escalated until the guns came out. Because an armed society is a polite society. Not right away, of course. But eventually, when all the bad guys are dead, our society will be so polite you won’t believe it.

> **[Gang fistfight escalated into a mass shooting at New Jersey arts festival,...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2018/06/17/suspect-killed-at-least-20-injured-in-shooting-at-new-jersey-arts-festival/?utm_term=.9b82fdf8a9d0)**
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> Twenty-two people were injured in a mass shooting at the Art All Night event Sunday in Trenton, N.J.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2018, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8326 "2018-06-17T17:15:57Z")

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Tell us again who the bad guys are, and how to tell.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2018, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8327 "2018-06-17T17:19:54Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Tell us again who the bad guys are, and how to tell.

The bad guys are the ones that end up dead.

You can tell, because they can’t.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2018, 9:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8328 "2018-06-18T09:15:53Z")

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Hat color.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2018, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8329 "2018-06-18T12:41:08Z")

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The Good Guys post here about Defensive Gun Uses.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8330 "2018-06-19T12:04:03Z")

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[There are a billion guns in the world, half of them in the US.](http://time.com/5315400/gun-ownership-america/)

How many more do we need before we’re safe?

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2018, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8331 "2018-06-19T12:26:03Z")

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I don’t think we should stop until all 1 billion are here in the good ol’ USA. THAT will make us safe!

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8332 "2018-06-20T00:31:44Z")

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[A man with a gun tattooed on his forehead was arrested for unlawful carrying of a firearm](http://www.mynbc5.com/article/man-with-gun-tattoo-on-forehead-arrested-on-gun-charge-in-south-carolina-police-say/21624530)

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 8:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8333 "2018-06-20T08:21:02Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> [A man with a gun tattooed on his forehead was arrested for unlawful carrying of a firearm](http://www.mynbc5.com/article/man-with-gun-tattoo-on-forehead-arrested-on-gun-charge-in-south-carolina-police-say/21624530)

More like Stupid Tattoo News. Seriously, people, don’t tattoo things on your forehead.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8334 "2018-06-20T14:18:40Z")

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That guy was also driving under a suspended license. Not sure why we require licenses to drive, since criminals will just ignore that law.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2018, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8335 "2018-06-20T14:21:11Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> Not sure why we require licenses to drive, since criminals will just ignore that law.

And if we sent police to enforce that law, those drivers plan to just run them over in the cause of Defending Our Freedom Against Tyranny.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2018, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8336 "2018-06-23T19:19:46Z")

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The NRA recently [took down its past history of politician ratings](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/06/20/a-leading-gun-control-group-just-released-nine-years-of-nra-grades-for-politicians):

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> The NRA gives candidates for office a letter grade indicating how good (or bad) the lawmaker is on gun issues…
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> Last week, though, the _Washington Post_ reported [a change](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/06/12/the-nra-appears-to-pull-old-legislator-grades-from-its-website) in the NRA’s presentation of its letter grades. Although evaluations for current races are online, past grades – once available to members – no longer are. When a Post reporter called the NRA to find out where the past grades had gone, the person who answered the phone said, “I think our enemies were using that.”

Silly people; haven’t you heard that it’s not that easy to make something disappear from the Internet?

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> One of the most fervent enemies of the NRA is the group Everytown for Gun Safety, an organization that advocates for legislation aimed at reducing gun violence. After our report, Everytown compiled a database of past lawmaker grades — more than 60,000 of them stretching back to 2009 — and, on Wednesday, [made them available online](https://everytown.org/nra-grades-archive/).

Sorry, guys; looks like you haven’t been able to cut off your enemies’, ahem, ammunition.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2018, 10:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8337 "2018-06-26T10:51:50Z")

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[Child finds gun in a sofa at an Ikea store, fires one shot](https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/26/us/child-fires-gun-ikea-trnd/index.html)

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> Earlier that day, a customer at the Fishers, Indiana, store sat down on the couch to test it out, CNN affiliate WTTV reported.
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> When he got up to keep shopping, he didn’t realize his gun had fallen out of his pants.
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> Later, a group of kids sat down on the sofa and found the gun, Fishers police told WTTV. One of them pulled the trigger and fired a single shot.

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**Author:** ![Batano](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b487fb/32.png) [@Batano](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Batano)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2018, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8338 "2018-06-26T12:20:54Z")

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I’m in eastern Europe at the moment. I was speaking with two Romanian men touring by motorcycle. One of them was a border guard. I add them if they wanted to tour the US and they said no, there are too many guns.

Put a man on the moon, invent the Internet, and be the birthplace of Rock and Roll, but let several hundred school children be killed st school and that’s all you are known for.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2018, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8339 "2018-06-26T20:26:56Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> [Child finds gun in a sofa at an Ikea store, fires one shot](https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/26/us/child-fires-gun-ikea-trnd/index.html)

Shouldn’t this be in the “positive gun news” thread?

Kid finds free gun at IKEA. Gets to test it out.

[/sarcasm]

I assume that in the 8 hour training class that people are supposed to take before they can walk around public with a gun, they don’t actually teach anything about ensuring that your gun actually stays on you. They should really add that tidbit of advice to the students they pump through the CCW classes these days. Especially if you are going to utterly ignore the “no weapons” policy that the private property owner has requested of citizens wishing to come into the premises.

I get the people that refuse to enter a store that has a “no guns” sign, as they are unable to function without their fetish, but to ignore the desires of the private property owners upon which they are imposiung shows a certain mindset that rules just don’t apply to them, because they have a gun.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2018, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8340 "2018-06-26T23:08:12Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> I get the people that refuse to enter a store that has a “no guns” sign, as they are unable to function without their fetish, but to ignore the desires of the private property owners upon which they are imposiung shows a certain mindset that rules just don’t apply to them, because they have a gun.

A black, Muslim, lesbian, atheist terrorist might take over the store while they are there, and then what? You expect them NOT to carry a gun to be prepared for that likely event?

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2018, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8341 "2018-06-26T23:33:30Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> A black, Muslim, lesbian, atheist terrorist might take over the store while they are there, and then what? You expect them NOT to carry a gun to be prepared for that likely event?

That’s why I just don’t go to IKEA, especially not on Thursdays.

But, seriously, you have a problem with gun free zones, then that’s fine, don’t go into them, if you think that it makes you unsafe. Don’t just refuse to recognize the private property owner’s rights though, and bring your gun into the gun free zone. That makes _you_ the criminal. That makes _you_ the danger to the public.

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