# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 29, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729 "2013-01-29T19:01:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 418
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2018, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8342 "2018-06-26T23:43:12Z")
Not just there. If \*you \*carry, \*you \*are a threat. ---
**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8343 "2018-06-27T07:42:13Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > \Don’t just refuse to recognize the private property owner’s rights though, and bring your gun into the gun free zone. That makes _you_ the criminal. That makes _you_ the danger to the public. In Indiana there is no law enforcing no carry signs so you actually aren’t automatically a criminal. [Cite](https://www.gunstocarry.com/gun-laws-state/indiana-gun-laws/) The article states that “IKEA … has a strict no weapons policy”, but it doesn’t say whether that store has any signage posted indicating that policy. All that said, there is absolutely no excuse for being so incompetent as to lose a weapon that you choose to carry. ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 9:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8344 "2018-06-27T09:06:01Z")
Given that just about any Google-fu will give you plenty of complaints from concealed and open carry advocates about IKEA’s general policy and signage, is that really the insinuation you want to make? ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 9:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8345 "2018-06-27T09:45:22Z")
> [@Projammer](#): > > In Indiana there is no law enforcing no carry signs so you actually aren’t automatically a criminal. IANAL (thank God) but to enter private property when expressly prohibited (“No guns allowed”) should be trespassing, a misdemeanor or even felony in most (all?) states. But perhaps the signage must be explicit: “Leave your gun behind or you will be prosecuted for trespassing” rather than just “No guns allowed” ? ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8346 "2018-06-27T12:40:18Z")
> [@Projammer](#): > > In Indiana there is no law enforcing no carry signs so you actually aren’t automatically a criminal. > > [Cite](https://www.gunstocarry.com/gun-laws-state/indiana-gun-laws/) > > The article states that “IKEA … has a strict no weapons policy”, but it doesn’t say whether that store has any signage posted indicating that policy. > > All that said, there is absolutely no excuse for being so incompetent as to lose a weapon that you choose to carry. It seems odd that Indiana has no respect for property rights of private individuals. Of course, even your link itself says "GunsToCarry recommends that you do not enter a property displaying a “No Weapons” sign whether the law is for or against signage. " for the reason that, “If asked to leave a property and you refuse to do so then you are breaking the law and put yourself at risk of being charged.” (It should also add in that, if you are stupid and obstinate enough to ignore the wishes of the property owners, then you are probably stupid enough to leave your gun behind in an IKEA couch for a kid to find.) So, basically, what you are saying is that, if the private property owners don’t know that you are trespassing on their property by carrying a gun against their wishes, then you won’t get into any trouble. But, that’s true of any sort of trespass, or any sort of crime at all. Yeah, you can get away with crimes if you don’t get caught, that’s not unique to ignoring the wishes of private property owners in Indiana. I ask you, if you were insistent upon ignoring the wishes of the private property owners that you are imposing upon, and they were to ask you to leave due to your disregard for the rules in place for their private property, would you try to make a deal out of it, and whine and complain that your rights are being “trampled upon”, or would you realize that you were you were the one in the wrong from the moment that you passed the “no guns” sign while carrying a gun, and apologize for your trespass and imposition? Finally, due to your insistence that this guy was legally all in the right, do you feel that he should face any repercussions for his endangering of the public, or do you think that being separated from his gun for a few hours was punishment enough? ---
**Author:** ![SaneBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@SaneBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaneBill)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8347 "2018-06-27T16:20:10Z")
So if a store has a “No Guns Allowed”-sign and a gun nut goes in with a gun, can the security guard shoot him on the spot ? If he does so, what are consequences for him, assuming the gun nut is white ? ( Also, will it end up on the stupid gun news or good guns news thread ? ) ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8348 "2018-06-27T17:01:51Z")
> [@SaneBill](#): > > So if a store has a “No Guns Allowed”-sign and a gun nut goes in with a gun, can the security guard shoot him on the spot ? > If he does so, what are consequences for him, assuming the gun nut is white ? > ( Also, will it end up on the stupid gun news or good guns news thread ? ) I would wait until the guy looks like he his pulling out his wallet to pay for any shopping he did. Then shoot him because “I was scared” ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8349 "2018-06-27T17:05:25Z")
If he’s black, you don’t even have to wait. ---
**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2018, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8350 "2018-06-27T21:27:05Z")
> [@Chisquirrel](#): > > Given that just about any Google-fu will give you plenty of complaints from concealed and open carry advocates about IKEA’s general policy and signage, is that really the insinuation you want to make? I’m not insinuating anything. I’m simply declining to assume facts not in evidence. Was their signage? Probably. Would I bet money one way or the other? No. The fact that the video showed plenty of footage of the store front and the IKEA sign while not showing any clips of a no guns sign provides reasonable doubt. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2018, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8351 "2018-07-01T00:39:29Z")
And the impossible has happened again. Woman goes into Walmart, drops her gun, gun goes off. The responsible gun owner suffered minor injuries. No one else was injured. > **[Woman injured when gun goes off in Lexington Wal-Mart](https://www.jacksonsun.com/story/news/local/2018/06/29/woman-injured-when-gun-goes-off-lexington-wal-mart/747239002/)** > > Woman injured when gun goes off in Lexington Wal-Mart ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2018, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8352 "2018-07-01T01:23:27Z")
What about the gun? Is it ok? ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2018, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8353 "2018-07-01T02:20:00Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > What about the gun? Is it ok? That’s a good question. As usual, the hoplophobe media totally ignores the precious, precious gun. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2018, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8354 "2018-07-01T04:10:50Z")
There was a “Families Belong Together” protest event in Huntsville BFE. There were counter-protesters (“Split Families Up with Impunity”?). There was [a ferkuffle](https://www.al.com/news/huntsville/index.ssf/2018/06/man_brandishes_gun_at_families.html) – and what fun could that be without a gun making an appearance. I mean, it was in BFE after all. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2018, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8355 "2018-07-01T11:38:46Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > And the impossible has happened again. Woman goes into Walmart, drops her gun, gun goes off. The responsible gun owner suffered minor injuries. No one else was injured. > > [Woman injured when gun goes off in Lexington Wal-Mart](https://amp.jacksonsun.com/amp/747239002?__twitter_impression=true) I’m waiting for the situation where person A accidentally fires their gun, and person B, thinking they’re under fire, shoots back. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2018, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8356 "2018-07-01T11:58:02Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > There was a “Families Belong Together” protest event in Huntsville BFE. There were counter-protesters (“Split Families Up with Impunity”?). There was [a ferkuffle](https://www.al.com/news/huntsville/index.ssf/2018/06/man_brandishes_gun_at_families.html) – and what fun could that be without a gun making an appearance. I mean, it was in BFE after all. BFE? Butt Fuck Everywhere? ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2018, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8357 "2018-07-01T12:04:45Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > There was a “Families Belong Together” protest event in Huntsville BFE. There were counter-protesters (“Split Families Up with Impunity”?). There was [a ferkuffle](https://www.al.com/news/huntsville/index.ssf/2018/06/man_brandishes_gun_at_families.html) – and what fun could that be without a gun making an appearance. Hey, c’mon - the guy _pushed him back_! I mean, if that isn’t a reason to draw your weapon, I don’t know what is. He should be commended for not firing, not taken into custody for god’s sake. Reminds me of my oldest, who came home from school one day (probably first grade) and explained to me that “it’s OK to hit someone if they hit you back”. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2018, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8358 "2018-07-01T12:07:49Z")
Still law-abiding! ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2018, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8359 "2018-07-01T13:06:32Z")
> [@Bayard](#): > > And the impossible has happened again. Woman goes into Walmart, drops her gun, gun goes off. The responsible gun owner suffered minor injuries. No one else was injured. > > [Woman injured when gun goes off in Lexington Wal-Mart](https://amp.jacksonsun.com/amp/747239002?__twitter_impression=true) She should be commended. She had a round in her chamber, unlike some of these libtards. And even had the safety off, saving a crucial second had she needed to defend the country’s borders while in WalMart. Sustaining minor injury while serving in our well-regulated militia, does she get a Purple Heart? > [@eschereal](#): > > What about the gun? Is it ok? Don’t worry; it was a black gun, It only gets 3/5 of a vote anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2018, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8360 "2018-07-01T21:58:22Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > What about the gun? Is it ok? Probably, as it was of good caliber. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2018, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8361 "2018-07-01T23:03:50Z")
At one of the smaller eventsyesterday, a pro-Trump guy showed up, chanted “womp womp” and brandished a gun. This was a group of about 100 people praying peacefully until the member of the well regulated militia showed up. > **[Man arrested after shouting ‘womp, womp’ and pulling a gun on immigration...](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2018/07/01/man-arrested-after-shouting-womp-womp-and-pulling-a-gun-on-immigration-protesters/?utm_term=.1dc3419c6cc2)** > > The armed counterprotester was chased across the park by the people he'd threatened. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729.md?page=417) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729.md?page=419)