# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 29, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729 "2013-01-29T19:01:55Z")\
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**Author:** ![SaneBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@SaneBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaneBill)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8382 "2018-07-08T16:13:24Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> News articles don’t tell us what kind of gun it was.

Obviously it was a small handgun. If only it would’ve been one of those vilified assault rifles this would’ve not happened.  
So the blame is solely on those damned gun grabbers.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [July 8, 2018, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8383 "2018-07-08T18:08:48Z")

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What if they threw a rally and no one came?

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> Student-led rallies around the country on Saturday aimed to show support for gun rights, though their effort drew smaller-than-expected crowds in a bid to counter the well-funded and organized youth gun-control lobby that emerged after the massacre in a Florida high school earlier this year.
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> \<snip\>
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> In Chicago, organizers planned for about 125 people, but the rally drew approximately 35. The group gathered in a corner of Millennium Park, not the great lawn, because organizers did not secure a permit and park security forced them to leave.
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> \<snip\>
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> In Palm Beach, Fla., about 100 people were expected to rally at a park; 13 came, including organizer Ashley Johnson, three speakers and the parents of two of the speakers.

> **[Organizers of pro-gun rallies across country lament low turnout](https://www.stltoday.com/news/nation-world/organizers-of-pro-gun-rallies-across-country-lament-low-turnout/article_3af4a4dd-b36d-5c6f-b7d7-b284a12a7bb2.html)**
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> Organizers of Saturday's marches said many conservative students feel as though their views are not being taken into consideration.

Maybe all the people who would have gone to these rallies are saving up their rallyin’ energy for the next neo Nazi march in Charlottesville.

And, this is older news, but for the first time since at least 2000, the NRA’s approval rating among Americans is under water.

> **[Something historic is happening with how Americans see the NRA](https://www.businessinsider.com/nra-poll-popularity-favorability-more-americans-dislike-2018-3)**
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> The NRA has a negative favorability rating for the first time since 2000 according to a NBC/Wall Street Journal poll.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2018, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8384 "2018-07-09T13:39:48Z")

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I’m thinking about putting this in the Positive Gun news thread:

[Courageous gun owner kills thug who was setting off explosives](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2018/07/07/a-man-confronted-a-teenage-neighbor-over-early-morning-fireworks-then-shot-him-to-death-police-say/?utm_term=.7e6cbc4fb7d7)

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2018, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8385 "2018-07-09T13:41:23Z")

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You know what races were involved even before clicking.

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**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2018, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8386 "2018-07-09T14:47:16Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> What does responsible gun ownership look like?
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> [This must be it](https://abcnews.go.com/US/toddler-dies-inflicted-gunshot-parents-home/story?id=56436860).

[Sadly, I think it must be.](https://www.apnews.com/b8bd00f065064362964a9c8dd405c21f/Police:-Houston-toddler-dead-after-self-inflicted-gunshot)

This time a toddler in Houston.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2018, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8387 "2018-07-09T16:10:11Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> I’m thinking about putting this in the Positive Gun news thread:
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> [Courageous gun owner kills thug who was setting off explosives](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2018/07/07/a-man-confronted-a-teenage-neighbor-over-early-morning-fireworks-then-shot-him-to-death-police-say/?utm_term=.7e6cbc4fb7d7)

That webpage links to another story that refutes the liberal claims of excessive killing of innocent blacks. For every story of an innocent black being killed, I’ll bet there’s ten stories about an innocent black NOT being killed, but the liberal media hides these counterexamples. Here’s one such story, probably buried inside the newspaper:

[A woman in Maple Heights, Ohio, observed a 12-year old black boy mowing the neighbor’s lawn _and didn’t even shoot him!_](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2018/06/30/a-white-woman-called-police-on-a-black-12-year-old-for-mowing-grass/?utm_term=.046040b4152a) Instead she called 911 to let the police assess the threat. (Or was she just too cowardly to confront the thug herself?)

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2018, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8388 "2018-07-09T16:13:46Z")

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Holy shit, you’re right! I can barely find any stories of white people not shooting black people.

#liberalmedia

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**Author:** ![SaneBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@SaneBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SaneBill)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2018, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8389 "2018-07-12T19:16:43Z")

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Hooray for free speech: [making 3D models of gun components available online is covered by the free speech rights granted by the First Amendment.](https://techcrunch.com/2018/07/10/court-victory-legalizes-3d-printable-gun-blueprints/)

Does this mean that ex-cons and like can’t anymore own 3-D printers ?

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2018, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8390 "2018-07-12T19:32:51Z")

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> [@SaneBill](#):
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> Hooray for free speech: [making 3D models of gun components available online is covered by the free speech rights granted by the First Amendment.](https://techcrunch.com/2018/07/10/court-victory-legalizes-3d-printable-gun-blueprints/)
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> Does this mean that ex-cons and like can’t anymore own 3-D printers ?

Gun morons can’t even follow the basic rules of gun safety, and they thank that they are going to be printing guns?

Get ready for this thread to fill up with “…injured when his 3-d printed gun failed and blew up in his face.” headlines

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2018, 11:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8391 "2018-07-16T11:25:58Z")

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[Six-year-old girl shot in the head when father cleans his handgun.](https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2018/07/15/father-shoots-daughter-cleaning-gun/)

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2018, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8392 "2018-07-16T12:56:59Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> [Six-year-old girl shot in the head when father cleans his handgun.](https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2018/07/15/father-shoots-daughter-cleaning-gun/)

So what? Accidents where fathers clean their knives and accidentally stab their children to death happen all the time.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2018, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8393 "2018-07-17T05:05:42Z")

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Hey, spare the rod and spoil the child.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [July 18, 2018, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8394 "2018-07-18T17:03:15Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> [Six-year-old girl shot in the head when father cleans his handgun.](https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2018/07/15/father-shoots-daughter-cleaning-gun/)

It’s a good thing that he keeps a round in the chamber, or she may have gotten the drop on him.

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**Author:** ![Batano](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b487fb/32.png) [@Batano](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Batano)\
**Post date:** [July 19, 2018, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8395 "2018-07-19T20:02:18Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> So what? Accidents where fathers clean their knives and accidentally stab their children to death happen all the time.

he most dangerous people in the world: [http://tikspor.com/g/2017/01/terrific-swimming-pool-cleaner-pole-pictures-decoration-ideas.jpg](http://tikspor.com/g/2017/01/terrific-swimming-pool-cleaner-pole-pictures-decoration-ideas.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2018, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8396 "2018-07-20T19:02:10Z")

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> [@](#):
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> The father of two survivors of the shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School earlier this year has been shot to death in his convenience store, CBS Miami reports. Broward County authorities say 61-year-old Ayub Ali was slain when a man who had just robbed him returned to the store and opened fire Tuesday.

> **[Father of 2 Parkland shooting survivors killed after store robbery](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ayub-ali-parkland-father-shooting-survivors-killed-after-store-robbery-2018-07-20/)**
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> Broward County authorities say gunman robbed Ayub Ali in his convenience store, then came back and fatally shot him

The world is becoming too ridiculous to even bother to live in.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2018, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8397 "2018-07-21T02:32:52Z")

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[Grandfather arrested after California boy shoots cousin, 2](https://apnews.com/f4b49ba7ba1a45859be59d3866f6e204/Grandfather-arrested-after-California-boy-shoots-cousin,-2)

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> A 4-year-old boy accidentally shot and killed his 2-year-old cousin Friday at a home in Southern California and deputies arrested the victim’s grandfather for allegedly leaving the gun where the kids could find it, authorities said.
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> The girl died at a hospital shortly after the mid-morning shooting in the Muscoy area, east of Los Angeles, according to San Bernardino County sheriff’s spokeswoman Cindy Bachman.
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> Cesar Lopez, 53, was taken into custody later in the day on suspicion of child endangerment and being a felon in possession of a firearm, the department said. It wasn’t immediately known if he has an attorney.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2018, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8398 "2018-07-21T11:48:51Z")

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Two men argue over a parking space. One pushes the other to the ground, who responds by drawing a gun and killing the other man. Stand your ground invoked, no charges filed.

[Video here.](ABC News: Gunman in parking space shooting not charged because of ‘Stand Your Ground’ law.  
[Gunman in parking space shooting not charged because of 'Stand Your Ground' law - ABC News](https://abcnews.go.com/US/gunman-parking-space-shooting-charged-stand-ground-law/story?id=56715356))

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2018, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8399 "2018-07-21T11:59:14Z")

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Video not there.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2018, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8400 "2018-07-21T12:11:33Z")

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Try this:

> **[Gunman in parking space shooting not charged because of 'Stand Your Ground' law](https://abcnews.go.com/US/gunman-parking-space-shooting-charged-stand-ground-law/story?id=56715356)**
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> Surveillance video has captured the moment an argument over a parking space outside a store turned into a man being fatally shot while his son stood at the store's door.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2018, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8401 "2018-07-21T14:02:10Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Two men argue over a parking space. One pushes the other to the ground, who responds by drawing a gun and killing the other man. Stand your ground invoked, no charges filed.
> 
> [Video here.](ABC News: Gunman in parking space shooting not charged because of ‘Stand Your Ground’ law.  
> [Gunman in parking space shooting not charged because of 'Stand Your Ground' law - ABC News](https://abcnews.go.com/US/gunman-parking-space-shooting-charged-stand-ground-law/story?id=56715356))

The laws in states like Florid allow CCW permit holders (usually white males) to go play cop, initiate a heated confrontation to the point where people feel like coming to blows, and then pull out a gun and claim self defense. The gunman knew he was escalating the situation. He knew there was a pretty good chance he was going to get into a fight with someone, and he assumed that whenever he did, he could legally kill them. And it seems he assumed correctly. Shades of George Zimmerman.

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