# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 29, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729 "2013-01-29T19:01:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2018, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8462 "2018-08-23T17:00:02Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> This saddens me ☹

RT must be big enough to take on a home intruder with a baseball bat.  
I am not.  
🙂

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**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2018, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8463 "2018-08-23T23:44:45Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> That’s SAT **T** , for [School-Age Trauma Training](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/13/us/dhs-training-students-mass-casualties.html), a new U.S. government program that, per the NYT, “will award a $1.8 million grant to create a program to teach high school students proper bleeding-control techniques.”  
> This is my breaking point on this issue. If we’re going to teach school kids how to learn proper bleeding control techniques rather than do something about guns, that’s the end of my tolerance of this crap.
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> Confiscate them all. Every last rifle, every last handgun, in civilian hands. Take them all away before we have to go teaching our kids proper bleeding control techniques. If the pro-gun types would rather see classes like these than come up with solutions to gun violence that actually work, then fuck 'em all, every last one of them.
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> We should never have come to this horrible, abominable point as a society. But here we are.
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> Confiscate them all. Fuck half measures.

Welcome to the extremist fringe. We should have a club, and maybe some little cards we can carry.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2018, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8464 "2018-08-24T13:30:59Z")

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Have tourniquet, will travel.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2018, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8465 "2018-08-27T20:05:07Z")

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Nicholas d’Agostino of Texas drives around shooting women in “self defense” because they “swerved” at him.

> **[Man Went Around Shooting Female Drivers He Thought Were 'Incompetent,' Cops Say](https://www.vice.com/en/article/ne5gak/nicholas-dagostino-texas-road-rage-shooting-women-vgtrn)**
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> Nicholas D'Agostino told a local news channel he shot at the women in self-defense.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2018, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8466 "2018-08-27T20:17:15Z")

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I wonder if his guns were legally purchased?

Oh wait, I forgot. Criminals don’t use legally purchased guns to commit crimes.

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**Author:** ![Sloe\_Moe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8797f3/32.png) [@Sloe\_Moe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sloe_Moe)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2018, 10:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8467 "2018-08-28T10:12:53Z")

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aaaand from Science Insider today, banning small caliber guns will result in a drastic reduction in crime.

From another source, I read that nuking the 4 biggest US cities in terms of gun-related violence will reduce the national incidence rate by 50%. What are you waiting for? Bring out the nukes!

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2018, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8468 "2018-08-29T18:55:30Z")

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> **[The School Shootings That Weren't](https://www.npr.org/sections/ed/2018/08/27/640323347/the-school-shootings-that-werent?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=20180828)**
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> The federal government said schools reported 235 shootings in one school year. But an NPR investigation finds that more than two-thirds of these reported incidents never happened.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8469 "2018-08-31T03:40:34Z")

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Showdown at High Noon.

[The guns they pointed at each other were toys, Kansas police say of road rage case](https://www.kansas.com/news/local/crime/article217625615.html)

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**Author:** ![DragonAsh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/db5fbb/32.png) [@DragonAsh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DragonAsh)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8470 "2018-08-31T13:42:37Z")

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> **[Florida Police Say a Deadly Shooting Involving an Uber Driver Is a ‘Classic...](https://time.com/5383176/uber-driver-stand-your-ground/)**
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> "This is a classic Stand Your Ground case. This was the intent of the law."

A “stand your ground” case that might pass muster?

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8471 "2018-08-31T13:53:12Z")

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> [@DragonAsh](#):
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> [Florida Police: Deadly Uber Driver Shooting Is ‘Classic Stand Your Ground’ | TIME](http://time.com/5383176/uber-driver-stand-your-ground/)  
> A “stand your ground” case that might pass muster?

Eliminate “stand your ground” and the driver gets off on self defense.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8472 "2018-08-31T13:54:58Z")

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Did they have rolls of caps?

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8473 "2018-08-31T13:59:48Z")

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That’s what happens when you bring a toy gun to a toy gunfight.

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**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8474 "2018-08-31T21:36:27Z")

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Two for one special.

[Child finds gun in dressing room, mom pulls trigger to see if it’s real](http://americangg.net/child-finds-gun-dressing-room/)

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> While shopping with his mother at Lenox Mall in Atlanta, Georgia, an 8-year-old boy found a .22 caliber handgun inside a dressing room. The mother was not sure if the weapon was real or just a toy, so she pulled the trigger to find out.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8475 "2018-08-31T22:08:33Z")

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> [@Projammer](#):
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> Two for one special.
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> [Child finds gun in dressing room, mom pulls trigger to see if it’s real](http://americangg.net/child-finds-gun-dressing-room/)

How horrible. How sad.

I really hope that the gun and its rightful owner are reunited, they must be so worried sick.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8476 "2018-08-31T22:22:02Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> Eliminate “stand your ground” and the driver gets off on self defense.

Assuming the account is reasonably accurate, there is no controversy or “stupid gun news” here.

• Someone tries to run you off the road: what do you do? You can assume that they will persist and that you have no reasonable chance of getting away from them – flight is simply not an option  
• upon sidelining your car, the person tells you they have a gun and are going to shoot you: this is effectively equivalent to actually seeing a gun pointed at you, especially given the preceding circumstances

Perhaps the dead guy was not a bad person, but he was aggressively stupid, which does sometimes result in death.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2018, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8477 "2018-09-01T03:02:35Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> Perhaps the dead guy was not a bad person, but he was aggressively stupid, which does sometimes result in death.

Actually Boek, the shootee, was [definitely a bad guy](https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2018/08/30/an-uber-driver-killed-man-threatening-him-classic-stand-your-ground-case-fla-sheriff-says/?utm_term=.4a0204a10074).

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> In a series of profanity-laced text messages, Jason Boek told his on-again, off-again girlfriend that he was watching her “every move” from outside a bar in central Florida, authorities said.
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> She told him it was over.
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> Then, authorities said, he threatened to hurt her and an Uber driver who he thought had picked her up.
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> "I see y’all,” Boek wrote, according to an image of the messages released by the Polk County Sheriff’s Office. He added: “I’m going to [expletive] both of y’all up. Your a piece of [expletive]. I’m going to [expletive] beat the [expletive] out of Uber driver.”
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> Officials with the county sheriff’s office said Boek, who was on probation for felony battery, has a criminal history that includes arrests for aggravated battery, burglary, forgery and larceny, among other things. During the incident Tuesday morning, he was driving with a suspended driver’s license, authorities said in the statement.
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> When deputies later searched the truck, which belongs to Boek’s friend, they discovered a marijuana cigarette and a glass pipe that contained methamphetamine residue.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2018, 10:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8478 "2018-09-01T10:46:11Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> • Someone tries to run you off the road: what do you do? You can assume that they will persist and that you have no reasonable chance of getting away from them – flight is simply not an option

Wrong. [You have plenty of options](https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=HW2KW8T8OIGY_QbN_4OwBg&q=road+rage+what+should+you+do&oq=road+rage+what+&gs_l=psy-ab.1.2.0l3j0i22i30l7.328.6319..8684...2.0..0.305.2144.13j2j2j1....2..0....1..gws-wiz.....0..35i39j0i131j0i20i264j0i131i20i264j0i3j0i10._sFmvHWFnZo)

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> • upon sidelining your car, the person tells you they have a gun and are going to shoot you: this is effectively equivalent to actually seeing a gun pointed at you, especially given the preceding circumstances

Why are you even letting this guy talk to you? He got out of his car, didn’t he? Just drive off, and go find a cop.

If you have a gun and you simply want an excuse to shoot somebody with it, it’s always possible to manufacture a pretext, and even convince yourself you had no other options. Case in point.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [September 1, 2018, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8479 "2018-09-01T17:37:43Z")

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> [@EddyTeddyFreddy](#):
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> Actually Boek, the shootee, was [definitely a bad guy](https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2018/08/30/an-uber-driver-killed-man-threatening-him-classic-stand-your-ground-case-fla-sheriff-says/?utm_term=.4a0204a10074).

The first link says otherwise,

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> Jason Boek’s family told NBC News they are angry with the sheriff’s handling of the case and that Westlake had plenty of time to leave the scene. “He’s not a bad person. He needed help.” mother Michele Boek, told NBC.

he was just misunderstood

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**Author:** ![Sloe\_Moe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8797f3/32.png) [@Sloe\_Moe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sloe_Moe)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2018, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8480 "2018-09-03T01:41:42Z")

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> [@Projammer](#):
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> Two for one special.
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> [Child finds gun in dressing room, mom pulls trigger to see if it’s real](http://americangg.net/child-finds-gun-dressing-room/)

Tragic. They should pass a law banning .22 handguns found in dressing rooms. But this story doesn’t tip it in favor of Darwin’s theory.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2018, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8481 "2018-09-03T10:48:06Z")

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[Dateline Tolland, Connecticut:](https://nypost.com/2018/09/02/man-faces-charges-for-shooting-at-ghost-during-break-in/)

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> A Connecticut man who told police he was a paranormal investigator faces several charges after firing shots in his house at what he told police may have been a ghost.  
> …  
> Police say Devaux put two bullet holes in his wall on July 26, initially reporting the incident as an attempted break-in.
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> He later told police he believes the intruder was actually a spirit.

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