# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 29, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729 "2013-01-29T19:01:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 426
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8502 "2018-11-16T18:41:44Z")
The Safe Space Thread for the excuse-makers has been dormant for awhile. Maybe he and _Loach_ have simply abandoned it. ---
**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8503 "2018-11-16T19:12:05Z")
I’ve stated that I could post daily updates where a bad guy demonstrated poor target identification skills among other bad life choices and wound up shot for his trouble, but that would just get monotonous. ETA: And annoying for the readers who want to believe that guns are seldom used for self defense. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8504 "2018-11-16T20:35:06Z")
The NRA has announced it’s cutting benefits for its employees. I guess they’re having financial problems. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8505 "2018-11-16T21:34:46Z")
Russians cutting back their back-channeled donations? ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8506 "2018-11-16T21:42:10Z")
Seems like it would do the NRA good to secretly fund a Democrat for President, so they can scare everyone that the President is gonna take our guns!!221@@!! ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8507 "2018-11-16T22:00:31Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > The NRA has announced it’s cutting benefits for its employees. I guess they’re having financial problems. [Free coffee and water coolers are no longer available to employees.](https://www.thetrace.org/rounds/nra-kills-coffee/) Thoughts and prayers, folks, thoughts and prayers. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2018, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8508 "2018-11-16T22:07:21Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > [Free coffee and water coolers are no longer available to employees.](https://www.thetrace.org/rounds/nra-kills-coffee/) > > Thoughts and prayers, folks, thoughts and prayers. People congregate around such places, making them ideal for a mass shooting. The NRA is just looking out for its employees. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2018, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8509 "2018-11-17T00:30:19Z")
> [@Projammer](#): > > I’ve stated that I could post daily updates where a bad guy demonstrated poor target identification skills among other bad life choices and wound up shot for his trouble, but that would just get monotonous. > > ETA: And annoying for the readers who want to believe that guns are seldom used for self defense. I’m sure you think you could do that. ---
**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2018, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8510 "2018-11-17T12:18:12Z")
> [@Projammer](#): > > I’ve stated that I could post daily updates where a bad guy demonstrated poor target identification skills among other bad life choices and wound up shot for his trouble, but that would just get monotonous. > > ETA: And annoying for the readers who want to believe that guns are seldom used for self defense. Do it. I’m not sure what you’re talking about but you say you can do it so why don’t you do it. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2018, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8511 "2018-11-17T14:21:41Z")
> [@Projammer](#): > > I’ve stated that I could post daily updates where a bad guy demonstrated poor target identification skills among other bad life choices and wound up shot for his trouble, but that would just get monotonous. > > ETA: And annoying for the readers who want to believe that guns are seldom used for self defense. It’s OK that good guys often shoot good guys because bad guys sometimes shoot [pick one] {good,bad} guys? Is that the point or am I missing something? And yes, we know guns are frequently used in self-defense. Zimmerman killed a blackie in self-defense. Cops defend themselves from cellphones and driver’s licenses. The homicide rate in Florida shot up when citizens were finally allowed to “stand their ground.” Please do publish your “daily updates.” What will be the quantitative rules? If an infant kills himself accidentally, while a citizen protects the $75 in his wallet from a mugger, will that count as a wash? Perhaps a black life should count only 3/5 of a white life — that should help your stats. ---
**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2018, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8512 "2018-11-17T15:41:23Z")
Fine. I’ll put that on my to do list for next year. There’s too much stuff going on with holidays coming up for me to be online reliably the rest of this year. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2018, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8513 "2018-11-17T16:08:18Z")
I take it back. I’m NOT sure you think you could do it. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2018, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8514 "2018-11-17T16:46:02Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > Please do publish your “daily updates.” What will be the quantitative rules? If an infant kills himself accidentally, while a citizen protects the $75 in his wallet from a mugger, will that count as a wash? Perhaps a black life should count only 3/5 of a white life — that should help your stats. What if a toddler is defending his binkie from another toddler trying to take it away? Would just brandishing the firearm be enough to count as a DGU, or should shots be fired? ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2018, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8515 "2018-11-17T20:10:01Z")
[39 alt-White thugs with too many guns](https://www.abcactionnews.com/news/region-pasco/39-suspected-gang-members-charged-in-major-drug-gun-trafficking-investigation-in-pasco) could have been much stupider than it played out. ---
**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2018, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8516 "2018-11-18T03:46:52Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > Would just brandishing the firearm be enough to count as a DGU, or should shots be fired? I would think that no shots fired would be the ideal outcome, for example from the other thread. [Man goes behind counter to assault female employee. Female coworker has CCW permit.](https://www.tmj4.com/news/local-news/george-webb-attack-employee-was-reportedly-a-concealed-carry-holder) (with video) Only an idiot would claim that wasn’t a positive DGU. Oh wait, [an idiot did just that.](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21214452&postcount=1471) ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2018, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8517 "2018-11-18T15:34:28Z")
> [@Projammer](#): > > I would think that no shots fired would be the ideal outcome, Unfortunately, the ideal is [not the only possible outcome.](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/michigan-shooting-daycare-toddler-shoots-children-critical-condition-a7972741.html) > [@](#): > > for example from the other thread. Not a very good example, I see no toddlers at all. > [@](#): > > [Man goes behind counter to assault female employee. Female coworker has CCW permit.](https://www.tmj4.com/news/local-news/george-webb-attack-employee-was-reportedly-a-concealed-carry-holder) (with video) > > Only an idiot would claim that wasn’t a positive DGU. > > Oh wait, [an idiot did just that.](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21214452&postcount=1471) Heh, manson, he just called you an idiot. He must not know you very well, as I’ve called you much worse. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2018, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8518 "2018-11-18T23:46:39Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > Unfortunately, the ideal is [not the only possible outcome.](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/michigan-shooting-daycare-toddler-shoots-children-critical-condition-a7972741.html) > > Not a very good example, I see no toddlers at all. > Heh, manson, he just called you an idiot. He must not know you very well, as I’ve called you much worse. 🙂 I’m drinking tonight to try to remove the hurt his post has caused me. And after all the times I was told “if you are threatened enough to pull a gun, you are threatened enough to use it” Mind…blown! ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2018, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8519 "2018-11-19T00:02:53Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > I’m drinking tonight to try to remove the hurt his post has caused me. > > And after all the times I was told “if you are threatened enough to pull a gun, you are threatened enough to use it” > > Mind…blown! You drink every night. Which is why you cannot understand that sometimes, when you pull a gun, it is time to use it, and that other times, you are supposed to let the person who assaulted you go. It’s obvious how to tell the difference. Only an idiot like you would think that there is any sort of consistency in DGU’s. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2018, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8520 "2018-11-19T00:25:14Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > You drink every night. Which is why you cannot understand that sometimes, when you pull a gun, it is time to use it, and that other times, you are supposed to let the person who assaulted you go. > > It’s obvious how to tell the difference. Only an idiot like you would think that there is any sort of consistency in DGU’s. 😉 You are so wrong, you don’t even know how wrong you are. I DON’T drink every night. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2018, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8521 "2018-11-19T01:28:34Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > You are so wrong, you don’t even know how wrong you are. > > I DON’T drink every night. 🙂 Well, yeah, sometimes, when you start your drinking in the afternoon, you are passed out by the evening. 😛 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729.md?page=425) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729.md?page=427)