# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 29, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729 "2013-01-29T19:01:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 428
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2018, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8542 "2018-11-29T15:11:43Z")
I’m not actually going to form an opinion on this until the Supreme Court tells me what my opinion should be. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2018, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8543 "2018-11-29T23:56:22Z")
[ARIZONA MAN ACCIDENTALLY SHOOTS HIMSELF IN GROIN IN WALMART](https://www.newsweek.com/arizona-man-accidentally-shoots-himself-groin-walmart-1236287) > [@](#): > > The Arizona Republic newspaper reported the incident occurred at around 6:30 p.m. after a semiautomatic handgun that was being held in the man’s waistband began to slip. The gun, which was not in a holster, discharged as he attempted to reposition it, the man told cops. > > The Arizona Republic reported when police officers responded to the gun shot the man was found in the meat section of the Walmart store with “survivable injuries.” ---
**Author:** ![CookingWithGas](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cookingwithgas/32/485_2.png) [@CookingWithGas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CookingWithGas)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2018, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8544 "2018-11-30T02:36:32Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > [ARIZONA MAN ACCIDENTALLY SHOOTS HIMSELF IN GROIN IN WALMART](https://www.newsweek.com/arizona-man-accidentally-shoots-himself-groin-walmart-1236287) The only way to stop a bad groin with a gun is a good guy with a gun. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2018, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8545 "2018-11-30T02:57:10Z")
He was found in the meat section? ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2018, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8546 "2018-11-30T04:20:02Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > He was found in the meat section? Let’s just say something of his was featured in the meats section. (Half off.) ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2018, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8547 "2018-11-30T04:44:46Z")
> [@CookingWithGas](#): > > The only way to stop a bad groin with a gun is a good guy with a gun. Getting shot in the Walmart is always the worst way to go. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2018, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8548 "2018-11-30T05:12:55Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Getting shot in the Walmart is always the worst way to go. Durn shame it wasn’t in Piggly Wiggly, for two reasons. First, the name of the store! Second, it’d certainly appear on an episode of _America’s Dumbest [del]Conservatives[/del] Criminals_ if that series were to be resurrected. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2018, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8549 "2018-11-30T05:22:38Z")
ARIZONA MAN ACCIDENTALLY SHOOTS HIMSELF IN GROIN IN WALMART He sensed a firm cylindrical object rising up to point at him? Self-defense! ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2018, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8550 "2018-11-30T05:23:44Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Durn shame it wasn’t in Piggly Wiggly, for two reasons. First, the name of the store! Second, it’d certainly appear on an episode of _America’s Dumbest [del]Conservatives[/del] Criminals_ if that series were to be resurrected. _America’s Dumbest Conservatives_ is an ongoing series. Next episode is tomorrow. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2018, 9:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8551 "2018-11-30T09:48:46Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > He was found in the meat section? Yes, if you stick an unholstered gun in your waistband you are likely to get shot in the meat section. ETA: Or you might end up with your knickers around your knees: [If I fired a pistol and then stuck it in my waistband like on TV, wouldn’t I get burned? - The Straight Dope](https://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/3106/if-i-fired-a-pistol-and-then-stuck-it-in-my-waistband-like-on-tv-wouldn-t-i-get-burned/) ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2018, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8552 "2018-12-08T18:02:31Z")
[The Ventura County Sheriff’s sergeant was shot 5 times by the suspect, but it was a 6th shot from his fellow law enforcement officer that killed him.](https://www.npr.org/2018/12/07/674735191/friendly-fire-killed-sheriffs-sergeant-at-thousand-oaks-calif-shooting-scene) This is not to slag on that other peace officer – he was doing his best in a chaotic and confusing situation, and he must be feeling terrible about this. But I hope you can keep this case in mind the next time you hear about “a good man with a gun” who is the solution to all our mass shooting problems. Here were two good, trained men with guns, and one of them ended up shooting the other. Imagine if they had been amateurs. ---
**Author:** ![SigMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@SigMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SigMan)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2018, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8553 "2018-12-08T19:12:27Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > Here were two good, trained men with guns, and one of them ended up shooting the other. Imagine if they had been amateurs. Trained? :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![CookingWithGas](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cookingwithgas/32/485_2.png) [@CookingWithGas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CookingWithGas)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2018, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8554 "2018-12-08T21:28:31Z")
> [@SigMan](#): > > Trained? :rolleyes: Are you challenging whether a county sheriff’s sergeant and a California Highway Patrol officer were trained in the use of firearms? ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2018, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8555 "2018-12-08T21:41:32Z")
> [@CookingWithGas](#): > > Are you challenging whether a county sheriff’s sergeant and a California Highway Patrol officer were trained in the use of firearms? It is a common article of faith amongst the pro-gun crowd that anyone with a CCW is a better shot than an LEO. ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2018, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8556 "2018-12-08T22:25:41Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > It is a common article of faith amongst the pro-gun crowd that anyone with a CCW is a better shot than an LEO. I don’t find an article of faith a very compelling argument or piece of evidence. Witnessing belongs in Great Debates. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2018, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8557 "2018-12-08T23:26:21Z")
> [@Roderick\_Femm](#): > > I don’t find an article of faith a very compelling argument or piece of evidence. Witnessing belongs in Great Debates. To be fair, the compelling argument that you were presented with was even less, it was just a single word with a :rolleyes: . ---
**Author:** ![CookingWithGas](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cookingwithgas/32/485_2.png) [@CookingWithGas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CookingWithGas)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2018, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8558 "2018-12-08T23:39:22Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > To be fair, the compelling argument that you were presented with was even less, it was just a single word with a :rolleyes: . To be _really_ fair, it was **SigMan** who posted the single word, which was what I responded to. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2018, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8559 "2018-12-08T23:48:41Z")
> [@CookingWithGas](#): > > To be _really_ fair, it was **SigMan** who posted the single word, which was what I responded to. Who was responding to Roderick Femm’s post. Just to clear things up, I _was_ being sarcastic. ---
**Author:** ![SigMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@SigMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SigMan)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2018, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8560 "2018-12-09T00:25:38Z")
> [@CookingWithGas](#): > > Are you challenging whether a county sheriff’s sergeant and a California Highway Patrol officer were trained in the use of firearms? They don’t practice much unless on their own time. Us gun nuts shoot better because we spend a lot of time at the range. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2018, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8561 "2018-12-09T00:39:07Z")
I have no doubt that if the gunman had calmly presented himself as a paper target that slowly zips down the range to the required distance, you’d be the man for the job, provided of course he gave you the time to get your ear protection on first. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729.md?page=427) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729.md?page=429)