# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 29, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729 "2013-01-29T19:01:55Z")\
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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2018, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8602 "2018-12-26T21:00:50Z")

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those are called “nut-chucks”

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2019, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8603 "2019-01-08T01:08:23Z")

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[Wichita police: Woman accidentally shoots self while driving](http://www.kake.com/story/39746159/wichita-police-woman-accidentally-shoots-self-while-driving?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook_KAKE-TV&fbclid=IwAR2K7BdwGvn1azBwp57e3su6pBYe3y5JR7GUdoQeTd4aMhS4oLk1T6dnCXY)

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> Wichita police say a woman accidentally shot herself while handling her gun and driving down Rock Road.
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> The incident happened at around 12:45 p.m. Monday in the 3600 block of Rock. Police say the woman was putting her handgun back in its holster when it fired, striking her in the leg.
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> Sgt. Ed Brower said the woman went to a nearby FedEx for help. He said the woman was hospitalized but her injury was not life-threatening.
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> The woman’s name was not released.

Have gun, will travel. I guess.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2019, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8604 "2019-01-08T15:49:01Z")

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“Yeah, \*that \*person is dumb, but you can trust _me_. I’m different. I’m better.”

- Every gun nut, every time.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8605 "2019-01-22T02:04:56Z")

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[The NRA celebrated Martin Luther King Day with a tweet:](https://t.co/wtSQOO5Kaq)

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> “Today, the men and women of the @NRA honor the profound life and legacy of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Dr. King applied for a concealed carry permit in a “may issue” state and was denied. We will never stop fighting for every law-abiding citizen’s right to self-defense.”

Martin Luther King was a victim of gun violence.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8606 "2019-01-22T02:57:01Z")

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But was the good Reverend shot with a legally-owned weapon?

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [January 22, 2019, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8607 "2019-01-22T03:10:52Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> But was the good Reverend shot with a legally-owned weapon?

James Earl Ray was a convicted felon. He was able to purchase a Remington rifle and ammunition at a sporting goods store because of poor background checks in place at the time.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2019, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8608 "2019-01-26T03:10:55Z")

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Two idiots, a man and a woman, start playing with a revolver late at night, as one does. Soon they decide to play Russian roulette, as one does, but with a slight twist. The man empties all the bullets from the cylinder, puts one back in, and spins the cylinder. Then he points the gun away and pulls the trigger. Click! The woman then picks up the gun and, apparently without giving the cylinder a spin, points it at the man and pulls the trigger. Click! Not to be outdone, the man picks up the revolver, again apparently without spinning the cylinder, points it at the woman, and pulls the trigger. No click this time. The woman suffers a gunshot to the chest and is pronounced dead at the hospital.

These untrained idiots with guns! Trained, responsible gun owners would never do such a thing!

You know where this is going, don’t you? The two idiots were St. Louis City cops. In addition, the man is a former Marine and the woman had spent six years in the Army.

If only there had been a good guy with a gun there to shoot one or both of them before this tragedy. Well, there was another person at the scene, one who appears to have had a sliver of sense. But he merely chided the idiots for playing with the gun and said he wanted no part of it. He started to leave the apartment, but before getting out of the building. he heard the fatal gunshot.

> **[St. Louis officers took turns firing revolver with 1 bullet at each other,...](https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/officer-who-fired-fatal-shot-charged-with-manslaughter-he-and/article_4a9e9c9a-0b41-56e3-9f11-41b547a2e4dc.html)**
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> Officer Nathaniel R. Hendren, 29, is accused in the shooting of Officer Katlyn Alix, 24, while they were playing with a gun.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 9:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8609 "2019-01-28T09:41:29Z")

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This only proves that we shouldn’t count on the police to protect us and that’s why we should rely instead on armed amateurs. Because when the police are minutes away, there’s an idiot with a gun standing right there.

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**Author:** ![CookingWithGas](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cookingwithgas/32/485_2.png) [@CookingWithGas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CookingWithGas)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2019, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8610 "2019-01-28T12:19:29Z")

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[Man killed by a gun sold illegally by his cousin](https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/he-put-224-guns-on-the-streets-his-family-would-pay-a-price/2019/01/23/68cd2520-1a57-11e9-8813-cb9dec761e73_story.html?utm_term=.1d4a58fc1178)

This is a Washington Post story, may be behind a paywall.

DC drug and gun trafficker sells gun illegally to someone, who ends up killing the dealer’s cousin in a random shooting.

Trafficker got started when he was in the Marines. He would get Marines to buy guns, then report them stolen and sell them to him to be trafficked. This is how legal guns become illegal guns.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2019, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8611 "2019-01-30T22:47:12Z")

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A University of Central Florida student was arrested when police discovered a fully automatic AR-15 in his vehicle at campus dorm.

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> UCF police began investigating Max Bennett Chambers, 19, after receiving a tip that he possessed drop-in auto sears, which can be used to convert a semiautomatic rifle into an automatic weapon.
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> According to police, Chambers confessed to manufacturing three of the devices in December and testing one on the AR-15 earlier this month. He said he knew using the device was illegal, “but said he does not like laws,” according to the arrest affidavit.

[https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/breaking-news/os-ne-ucf-student-ar-15-automatic-weapon-20190130-story,amp.html?\_\_twitter\_impression=true](https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/breaking-news/os-ne-ucf-student-ar-15-automatic-weapon-20190130-story,amp.html?__twitter_impression=true)

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8612 "2019-01-31T00:55:02Z")

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Well, where he’s going he’ll be able to hang out with lots of people who don’t like laws either…

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8613 "2019-01-31T01:20:38Z")

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From what I have read, ATF classifies an auto-sear as a machine gun in and of itself.

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**Author:** ![JXJohns](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jxjohns/32/469_2.png) [@JXJohns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JXJohns)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8614 "2019-01-31T01:40:42Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> From what I have read, ATF classifies an auto-sear as a machine gun in and of itself.

I believe it is the drop in auto sear that they treat that way. There are auto sears for sale all over the place.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8615 "2019-01-31T15:40:28Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> A University of Central Florida student was arrested when police discovered a fully automatic AR-15 in his vehicle at campus dorm.  
> [https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/breaking-news/os-ne-ucf-student-ar-15-automatic-weapon-20190130-story,amp.html?\_\_twitter\_impression=true](https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/breaking-news/os-ne-ucf-student-ar-15-automatic-weapon-20190130-story,amp.html?__twitter_impression=true)

But, otherwise law abiding, right?

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8616 "2019-01-31T15:43:40Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> But, otherwise law abiding, right?

He said he doesn’t like laws. And besides, I can’t believe there is a law against machine guns anyway. Now, only criminals will have machine guns! How can I defend myself against machine guns, if I’m not allowed to buy machine guns?

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**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8617 "2019-01-31T15:51:00Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> But, otherwise law abiding, right?

Been studying the **ElvisL1ves** playbook, have you? In your case, it’s forgivable. You’re just parroting what the big guy says in every gun thread. Given that you’ve had fewer original thoughts than I’ve had winning Lotto tickets, that’s to be expected. We can’t hold you to the standard of recognizing that E saying it a lot doesn’t make it any less stupid and poorly thought out.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8618 "2019-01-31T16:56:42Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> He said he doesn’t like laws. And besides, I can’t believe there is a law against machine guns anyway. Now, only criminals will have machine guns! How can I defend myself against machine guns, if I’m not allowed to buy machine guns?

Maybe if you buy each of the 700 types of gun that you can buy in California, you can use them as some sort of shield.

If you build a wall out of guns, then they actually are useful for defense.

> [@Scumpup](#):
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> Been studying the **ElvisL1ves** playbook, have you? In your case, it’s forgivable. You’re just parroting what the big guy says in every gun thread. Given that you’ve had fewer original thoughts than I’ve had winning Lotto tickets, that’s to be expected. We can’t hold you to the standard of recognizing that E saying it a lot doesn’t make it any less stupid and poorly thought out.

Who are you, and why do you think that anyone cares what you think?

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8619 "2019-01-31T17:02:53Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> Maybe if you buy each of the 700 types of gun that you can buy in California, you can use them as some sort of shield.
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> If you build a wall out of guns, then they actually are useful for defense.

So…we should collect all the guns in the US and build a border wall out of them?

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8620 "2019-01-31T17:59:37Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> So…we should collect all the guns in the US and build a border wall out of them?

oooh, that’s not a bad idea. We could do a voluntary gun turn in, where every gun will get its own special place in the wall.

wonder what will win out, their hoplophilia, or their xenophobia

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [January 31, 2019, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8621 "2019-01-31T18:33:09Z")

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Think of it as a memorial, like the Vietnam one on the Mall, except it would be an actual interment site. Let the former owners put their names on each one of their dead loved ones to symbolize their sacrifice in the cause of freedom and whiteness.

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