# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 29, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729 "2013-01-29T19:01:55Z")\
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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8762 "2019-04-25T19:13:49Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> You charge the officials involved in the cover-up, not the school. :smack:

🙂

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**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8763 "2019-04-25T19:21:36Z")

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The bullet grazed the kid, leaving a bruise, but did not penetrate the skin. How’s that even possible? Hit something in the kid’s backpack, maybe?

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2019, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8764 "2019-04-25T23:08:04Z")

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> [@GreysonCarlisle](#):
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> The bullet grazed the kid, leaving a bruise, but did not penetrate the skin. How’s that even possible? Hit something in the kid’s backpack, maybe?

Hey, kids! Wanna groove without being grooved? Wanna be hip without being hit?

[You need a bullet proof T-shirt!](https://youtu.be/i7155O9iUmM)

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [April 27, 2019, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8765 "2019-04-27T15:00:21Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> Speaking of gun news, haven’t seen many posts lately in the “Positive Gun News” thread. With the millions of DGU every year, seems like there would be hundreds of stories each day!

By their own admissions, the gun nuts save _hundreds of lives every day_. Ho-hum. Reporting them all would waste time better spent defending the border wall, or confronting blacks wearing hoodies.

To report one of these myriads of life-saving incidents, it needs to be very special. Shooting backwards while looking in a mirror perhaps, or disabling 2 or 3 suspects with a single bullet.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [April 28, 2019, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8766 "2019-04-28T17:02:30Z")

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In addition to being racist provacateurs, the NRA is also too corrupt for Oliver North. That takes some doing.

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> National Rifle Association leader Oliver North announced Saturday that he will not seek a second term as president of the gun rights group, as is customary.
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> The decision plunged the organization into chaos ahead of a board meeting on Monday and sparked debate among NRA members over a resolution on whether to oust Chief Executive Wayne LaPierre.
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> North’s decision to step aside from his leadership role comes amid infighting within the group and follows a number of articles from The New Yorker, The Wall Street Journal and The New York Times detailing allegations of financial mismanagement by senior NRA officials

> **[As NRA Leadership Fight Spills Into Public, N.Y. Attorney General Opens...](https://www.npr.org/2019/04/27/717808885/oliver-north-says-he-will-not-seek-a-2nd-term-as-nra-president?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=20190427)**
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> Attorney General Letitia James' announcement came shortly after the president of the gun rights group, Oliver North, said he would not seek a second term.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8767 "2019-04-29T14:03:05Z")

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They should settle it with an old-fashioned shoot-out, like real Americans.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8768 "2019-04-29T15:13:57Z")

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> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#):
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> In addition to being racist provacateurs, the NRA is also too corrupt for Oliver North. That takes some doing.

It’s not that it is too corrupt for him-It’s that it isn’t corrupt in his favor this time.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8769 "2019-04-29T16:46:14Z")

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I realize that this in nut-picking but I couldn’t help rolling my eyes at the following quote in the [Washington Post](https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/as-turmoil-rocks-nra-meeting-attendees-back-a-group-under-pressure-from-all-sides/2019/04/28/4d220fd2-69dc-11e9-a66d-a82d3f3d96d5_story.html?utm_term=.5a68697f893b).

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> Jeannette Sharp teared up as she talked about the prospect of handing over her guns.
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> “My firearms are sitting in my safe at home; they’ve never done any harm,” Errol Sharp said.

Won’t somebody please think of the poor innocent guns.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8770 "2019-04-29T17:10:01Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> It’s not that it is too corrupt for him-It’s that it isn’t corrupt in his favor this time.

Fair point!

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8771 "2019-04-29T17:16:07Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> Won’t somebody please think of the poor innocent guns.

When seconds count, and the police are only minutes away, her guns are … locked in a safe.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8772 "2019-04-29T17:30:15Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> When seconds count, and the police are only minutes away, her guns are … locked in a safe.

I mean, think of their feelings. Guns get lonely and bored locked up in the safe. They want to be free! Unconfined! Wild and happy! Please stop this unconscionable gun abuse!

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8773 "2019-04-29T18:54:18Z")

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[N.Y. Woman Is Fatally Shot by Boyfriend With Daughter, 4, in Home — and He Claims It Was Accident](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/ny-woman-is-fatally-shot-by-boyfriend-with-daughter-4-in-home-%E2%80%94-and-he-claims-it-was-accident/ar-BBWkmnX)

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> Shellman told police he had gotten out of bed to take his registered gun out and sat back down with it on the bed next to Tombs, according to a felony complaint obtained by the Standard. He claimed he “inadvertently disengaged the safety” and had his finger on the trigger when Tombs reached over and grabbed the gun. While both of their hands were on the gun it fired, striking Tombs.

So, either he murdered her or he is the dumbest son of a bitch to have ever handled a firearm. Pick 'em.

Either way, he should be many years in prison.

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**Author:** ![CookingWithGas](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cookingwithgas/32/485_2.png) [@CookingWithGas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CookingWithGas)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8774 "2019-04-29T19:19:12Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> When seconds count, and the police are only minutes away, her guns are … locked in a safe.

Jim Jefferies does a hilarious bit on this scenario, a guy saying he’s a responsible gun owner, with his gun locked in the safe. Then he walks through what happens when someone breaks into they guy’s house through a window.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8775 "2019-04-29T19:29:28Z")

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> [@Typo\_Negative](#):
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> [N.Y. Woman Is Fatally Shot by Boyfriend With Daughter, 4, in Home — and He Claims It Was Accident](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/ny-woman-is-fatally-shot-by-boyfriend-with-daughter-4-in-home-%E2%80%94-and-he-claims-it-was-accident/ar-BBWkmnX)
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> So, either he murdered her or he is the dumbest son of a bitch to have ever handled a firearm. Pick 'em.
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> Either way, he should be many years in prison.

First in with “It was an accident and/or he has suffered enough”.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8776 "2019-04-29T19:35:23Z")

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> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#):
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> In addition to being racist provacateurs, the NRA is also too corrupt for Oliver North. That takes some doing.

Perhaps North did not like the fact that the NRA is now accepting large sums of cash from Russian Oligarchs. Or maybe he just did not get a cut and he’s pissed.

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**Author:** ![Saintly\_Loser](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saintly_loser/32/4045_2.png) [@Saintly\_Loser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saintly_Loser)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8777 "2019-04-29T22:07:15Z")

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> [@GreysonCarlisle](#):
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> Yep. If by “feel real bad about it” you mean “totally destroy their lives.”
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> It was an accident, not intentional. There’s little the courts can do to punish the parents further, and there’s no likely rehabilitation since the parents recently learned to change their ways in the most devastating way possible.
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> There’s not even any point in making an example of them–that was accomplished when the brother killed the sister. That their own child might die is a far more worrisome deterrent to others than whatever fine or brief jail time might be incurred.

Sadly, unfortunately, I agree.

If someone is so colossally stupid and irresponsible as to leave a loaded, operational gun within reach of a four-year-old child, there is probably nothing one can do to help them. And incarcerating these parents, or at least the one who left the gun in the car, will almost certainly do nothing to deter the other epically stupid and irresponsible people who are leaving loaded (or even unloaded) guns within reach of their children. Because they are, obviously, too stupid to understand consequences. Consequences such as imprisonment, not to mention the deaths of their children.

The only thing that will do any good is to keep guns out of their hands in the first place.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8778 "2019-04-29T23:14:37Z")

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> [@Saintly\_Loser](#):
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> Sadly, unfortunately, I agree.
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> If someone is so colossally stupid and irresponsible as to leave a loaded, operational gun within reach of a four-year-old child, there is probably nothing one can do to help them.

How about sterilization?

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**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2019, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8779 "2019-04-29T23:30:10Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> When seconds count, and the police are only minutes away, her guns are … locked in a safe.

> [@CookingWithGas](#):
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> Jim Jefferies does a hilarious bit on this scenario, a guy saying he’s a responsible gun owner, with his gun locked in the safe. Then he walks through what happens when someone breaks into they guy’s house through a window.

If only people had come up with [solutions to this insoluble dilemma](https://gundigest.com/article/gallery-10-great-fast-access-gun-safes-home-defense).

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2019, 9:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8780 "2019-04-30T09:45:12Z")

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> [@Typo\_Negative](#):
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> [N.Y. Woman Is Fatally Shot by Boyfriend With Daughter, 4, in Home — and He Claims It Was Accident](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/ny-woman-is-fatally-shot-by-boyfriend-with-daughter-4-in-home-%E2%80%94-and-he-claims-it-was-accident/ar-BBWkmnX)
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> > [@](#):
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> > Shellman told police he had gotten out of bed to take his registered gun out and sat back down with it on the bed next to Tombs, according to a felony complaint obtained by the Standard. He claimed he “inadvertently disengaged the safety” and had his finger on the trigger when Tombs reached over and grabbed the gun. While both of their hands were on the gun it fired, striking Tombs.

Sounds familiar…

\*Oh yes, oh yes, oh yes they both  
Oh yes, they both  
Oh yes, they both reached for  
The gun, the gun, the gun, the gun,  
Oh yes, they both reached for the gun  
for the gun.

Understandable, understandable  
Yes it’s perfectly understandable  
Comprehensible, Comprehensible  
Not a bit reprehensible  
It’s so defensible\*

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2019, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8781 "2019-04-30T15:57:49Z")

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The NRA has decided to stick with whackjob Wayne LaPierre, reelecting him as Chief Executive. Also, Ollie North was ousted as President. I’m looking forward to a couple more years of LaPierre making ridiculous statements…followed by NRA members, on this board and elsewhere, stating that the Chief Executive of the NRA’s statements are not official policy and do not represent what they really feel at all. :rolleyes:

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