# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 29, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729 "2013-01-29T19:01:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 9:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8842 "2019-05-20T09:40:56Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> Maybe his daughter was leading a gang of home-invaders who ran away after she was shot?

Still officially counts as DGU. Tick!

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8843 "2019-05-20T13:29:18Z")

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[Two more deaths](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21651469&postcount=1534) constitute \*Positive \*Gun News, over in the snowflakes’ thread.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8844 "2019-05-20T13:37:23Z")

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Yay! Dead people! #MAGA

I wonder how many DGU were used against a person with a gun? Those should cancel each other out and not count.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8845 "2019-05-20T13:59:43Z")

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Enter “father accidentally shoots” into Google News for 536,000 hits. (Shoots 6-year old daughter, shoots son, shoots 23-year old daughter, shoots wife, shoots, shoots, shoots.) But that figure is inflated with “father accidentally shoots self” and false Google pattern matching on “5-year old son accidentally shoots father.”

Small price to pay. Think of the dozens of muggers who were killed elsewhere while these accidents were going on — muggers who would have made off with $30 or $40 if Fearless Fred hadn’t shot them dead. Think of the Redcoats who would have been mowed down at the borders if the Brits tried their 1812 adventure again.

And with the price of Viagra so high, think of the rednecks (and the poor Dopers over in the “Guns give me a hard-on” thread) who wouldn’t be able to service their women-folk without their virility talisman under the pillow.

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**Author:** ![CookingWithGas](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cookingwithgas/32/485_2.png) [@CookingWithGas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CookingWithGas)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8846 "2019-05-20T17:15:01Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> [Two more deaths](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=21651469&postcount=1534) constitute \*Positive \*Gun News, over in the snowflakes’ thread.

That thread is full of DGU, many of which resulted in deaths. It seems like the idea is to arm everybody, both good guys and bad guys, and then kill the bad guys. Hopefully. I have a hard time finding the positive slant on, “Three people with guns all shoot each other, two die, one critically injured. We think the two dead guys were the bad guys. Can’t ask 'em, though.”

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8847 "2019-05-20T17:20:10Z")

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Yeah, and if you post something that doesn’t conform to some unwritten rule of what is a Positive story, you get banned from the thread.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2019, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8848 "2019-05-20T23:21:49Z")

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> [@PastTense](#):
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> What do you do when you think an intruder is trying to break into the house? You shoot through the door. So what if it turns out to be your 23 year old daughter that you killed…  
> [23-year-old woman accidentally shot and killed by father entering her Greenville County home, officials say](https://www.wyff4.com/article/23-year-old-woman-accidentally-shot-and-killed-by-father-entering-her-greenville-county-home-officials-say/27518642)

Well, he feels bad about it. ☹ So he should get a pass.

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**Author:** ![Saintly\_Loser](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saintly_loser/32/4045_2.png) [@Saintly\_Loser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saintly_Loser)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2019, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8849 "2019-05-21T00:23:20Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Not negligence, **Snowboarder Bo** , but rather “Callous Disregard”. Also, “totally foreseeable”, not “unforeseeable”. As I’m fond of saying, this wasn’t an accident’ it was an inevitable.

Maybe. But another point of view is that we’re so lucky these two responsible gun owners didn’t immediately return fire against the unseen (and imaginary) shooter.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2019, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8850 "2019-05-21T02:58:09Z")

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DGU? Defensive Gun Use?

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2019, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8851 "2019-05-21T12:39:35Z")

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Yes, that’s how they manage to call themselves the Good Guys, in what they call “tactical situations”. :rolleyes:

> [@CookingWithGas](#):
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> We think the two dead guys were the bad guys. Can’t ask 'em, though.

Easy. What’s their skin color?

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2019, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8852 "2019-05-21T13:02:49Z")

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> [@CookingWithGas](#):
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> “Three people with guns all shoot each other, two die, one critically injured. We think the two dead guys were the bad guys. Can’t ask 'em, though.”

Didn’t you watch Game of Thrones? Trial by combat, dude. The dead folks are by definition the bad guys (unless they are police).

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2019, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8853 "2019-05-24T20:50:20Z")

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Filed under “An Armed Society Is a Polite Society”:

An Amazon driver delivered a package to the home of one Kenneth Vance of La Grange, KY. The delivery truck threw some gravel from Vance’s driveway (or possibly the street; the article doesn’t say). Vance got a gun and forced the driver out of the truck. He then handed the driver a rake and forced him to even out the gravel.

> **[Man pulls gun on Amazon driver, forces him to rake driveway](https://www.wave3.com/2019/05/24/man-pulls-gun-amazon-driver-forces-him-rake-driveway/)**
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> A delivery by one driver for Amazon did not bring a smile to the customer’s face.

I presume Vance then shot at the driver’s feet and ordered him to dance.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2019, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8854 "2019-05-25T12:04:49Z")

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[This one’s too good not to pass on:](https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ny-drugs-anus-rectum-man-gun-shoots-self-groin-20190522-mcxzjko3rzdubhwhqvn44f3sey-story.html)

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> **Doctors find drugs in rectum of convicted felon being operated on after shooting himself in the groin**  
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> The 27-year-old’s most recent troubles began April 16 when a gun he kept in his pocket discharged, putting a bullet “through his testicles and into his thigh,” according to the report.
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> Not wanting to be charged with gun possession, a bleeding Wilson had his girlfriend drive him to a friend’s house, where he allegedly dumped the firearm before going to an area hospital. It’s illegal for a felon to possess a firearm.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2019, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8855 "2019-05-25T17:13:39Z")

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> Police did not arrest Wilson at the hospital, opting instead to issue an April 16 warrant for gun and meth possession, which allowed Wilson to turn himself in two days later. When he did so, police reportedly found another bag of marijuana in his rectum during a jailhouse strip search.

Now that’s what I call a dedicated recidivist.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [May 25, 2019, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8856 "2019-05-25T19:54:27Z")

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> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#):
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> Filed under “An Armed Society Is a Polite Society”:
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> An Amazon driver delivered a package to the home of one Kenneth Vance of La Grange, KY. The delivery truck threw some gravel from Vance’s driveway (or possibly the street; the article doesn’t say). Vance got a gun and forced the driver out of the truck. He then handed the driver a rake and forced him to even out the gravel.
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> [Man pulls gun on Amazon driver, forces him to rake driveway](https://www.wave3.com/2019/05/24/man-pulls-gun-amazon-driver-forces-him-rake-driveway/)
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> I presume Vance then shot at the driver’s feet and ordered him to dance.

How is this not in the “guns make me orgasm” thread?

Guy was just protecting his property.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2019, 10:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8857 "2019-05-29T10:53:22Z")

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[The NRA opposes simply educating people about safe gun storage](https://news.yahoo.com/texas-approves-safe-gun-storage-campaign-over-nra-192429677.html?ncid=facebook_yahoonewsf_akfmevaatca). Maybe one of our local hoplophiles can explain why.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2019, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8858 "2019-05-29T13:37:20Z")

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If you educate people about safe gun storage, they might start storing their guns safely. Once that happens, they may realize they don’t actually need those guns, and then start lobbying for removing all guns and going out and grabbing all the guns from people simply trying to protect themselves from the thousands upon thousands of home invasions every year.

That’s why.

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2019, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8859 "2019-05-29T14:40:43Z")

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[Video (and write-up)](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/05/mississippi-black-couple-picnic-video-gun.html)shows campground manager asking black couple leave pinic area, backed by her gun.

Bonus that the guy is National Guard and just returned from overseas.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2019, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8860 "2019-05-29T15:15:58Z")

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> [@Folacin](#):
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> [Video (and write-up)](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/05/mississippi-black-couple-picnic-video-gun.html)shows campground manager asking black couple leave pinic area, backed by her gun.
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> Bonus that the guy is National Guard and just returned from overseas.

How does that woman not get arrested?

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2019, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8861 "2019-05-29T15:37:39Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> How does that woman not get arrested?

How would the police know about the situation?

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