# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 29, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729 "2013-01-29T19:01:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 445
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2019, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8882 "2019-06-13T20:53:02Z")
I would put this in Positive Gun News, since two idiot gun owners shot and killed each other, but I am not allowed to post in that thread anymore: [Marine veteran shot and killed while trying to apologize in road rage encounter](https://www.foxnews.com/us/marine-veteran-shot-and-killed-while-trying-to-apologize-in-road-rage-encounter) Headline is deceiving because the Marine got out of his car to “apologize”, a passenger in the other car pulled out a gun, then the Marine pulled out HIS gun, and they shot and killed each other. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2019, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8883 "2019-06-13T21:13:21Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > I would put this in Positive Gun News, since two idiot gun owners shot and killed each other, but I am not allowed to post in that thread anymore: > > [Marine veteran shot and killed while trying to apologize in road rage encounter](https://www.foxnews.com/us/marine-veteran-shot-and-killed-while-trying-to-apologize-in-road-rage-encounter) > > Headline is deceiving because the Marine got out of his car to “apologize”, a passenger in the other car pulled out a gun, then the Marine pulled out HIS gun, and they shot and killed each other. Good thing there were two good-guys-with-guns there! ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2019, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8884 "2019-06-13T22:18:18Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > I would put this in Positive Gun News, since two idiot gun owners shot and killed each other, but I am not allowed to post in that thread anymore: > > [Marine veteran shot and killed while trying to apologize in road rage encounter](https://www.foxnews.com/us/marine-veteran-shot-and-killed-while-trying-to-apologize-in-road-rage-encounter) > > Headline is deceiving because the Marine got out of his car to “apologize”, a passenger in the other car pulled out a gun, then the Marine pulled out HIS gun, and they shot and killed each other. Key sentence: _A friend [COLOR=“Red”]who was on the phone with Byrne at the time said he got out his vehicle at a stoplight to apologize._[/COLOR] Fuck him. He deserved what he got. Fucking hang up and drive. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2019, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8885 "2019-06-13T22:30:06Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > I would put this in Positive Gun News, since two idiot gun owners shot and killed each other, but I am not allowed to post in that thread anymore: > > [Marine veteran shot and killed while trying to apologize in road rage encounter](https://www.foxnews.com/us/marine-veteran-shot-and-killed-while-trying-to-apologize-in-road-rage-encounter) > > Headline is deceiving because the Marine got out of his car to “apologize”, a passenger in the other car pulled out a gun, then the Marine pulled out HIS gun, and they shot and killed each other. Who takes a gun to an apology? ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2019, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8886 "2019-06-14T02:00:05Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > Good thing there were two good-guys-with-guns there! By definition, the dead guy is always the bad guy. So, both of them. ---
**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2019, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8887 "2019-06-14T04:16:12Z")
Lucky they were both armed. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2019, 9:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8888 "2019-06-14T09:09:00Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > I would put this in Positive Gun News, since two idiot gun owners shot and killed each other, but I am not allowed to post in that thread anymore: I can’t imagine why. > [@](#): > > [Marine veteran shot and killed while trying to apologize in road rage encounter](https://www.foxnews.com/us/marine-veteran-shot-and-killed-while-trying-to-apologize-in-road-rage-encounter) > > Headline is deceiving because the Marine got out of his car to “apologize”, a passenger in the other car pulled out a gun, then the Marine pulled out HIS gun, and they shot and killed each other. An armed society is a polite society. It’s just that some people don’t know how to accept an apology. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2019, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8889 "2019-06-14T12:30:24Z")
[A tragedy, to be sure](https://www.boston.com/news/national-news/2019/06/13/officials-5-year-old-shoots-toddler-in-head-uncle-charged), but part of the price we all must pay for being able to kill the Bad Guys: > [@](#): > > GRAY, Ga. (AP) — Authorities say a 5-year-old shot a 2-year-old sibling at a Georgia home while playing with a gun and now the children’s uncle has been charged. > > News outlets report the children found the gun in the home Wednesday and were playing with it when it discharged. The Jones County Sheriff’s Office says the 2-year-old was shot in the head and is in critical condition. > > Authorities charged 18-year-old Darius Johnson with reckless conduct and theft. > > Jones County Sheriff’s Captain Jimmy Black says the gun was stolen during a burglary about two weeks ago. If only the 2-year-old could have defended himself … ---
**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2019, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8890 "2019-06-14T12:36:16Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > [A tragedy, to be sure](https://www.boston.com/news/national-news/2019/06/13/officials-5-year-old-shoots-toddler-in-head-uncle-charged), but part of the price we all must pay for being able to kill the Bad Guys: If only the 2-year-old could have defended himself … Well, you’re almost right. On the right track at least. If only there had been a teacher in the room to shoot the 18 year old in the face before the baby could get killed. That is the optimum outcome (we are told). ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2019, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8891 "2019-06-14T12:51:32Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > [A tragedy, to be sure](https://www.boston.com/news/national-news/2019/06/13/officials-5-year-old-shoots-toddler-in-head-uncle-charged), but part of the price we all must pay for being able to kill the Bad Guys: If only the 2-year-old could have defended himself … We should immediately embark on a campaign to arm all 2-year-olds. After all, an armed society is a polite society. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2019, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8892 "2019-06-14T13:34:43Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > By definition, the dead guy is always the bad guy. So, both of them. They both took out a bad guy, so aren’t each of them also good guys? ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2019, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8893 "2019-06-14T17:24:39Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > [A tragedy, to be sure](https://www.boston.com/news/national-news/2019/06/13/officials-5-year-old-shoots-toddler-in-head-uncle-charged), but part of the price we all must pay for being able to kill the Bad Guys: If only the 2-year-old could have defended himself … I’ve mentioned this before, but that could have been my kids. My brother, as he was nearing the end of his life, lived with my mom. My kids were over there often. When my brother died, we cleaned out his room and found a loaded revolver under his bed. My kids loved my brother and liked hanging out in his room. Miserable fucker could have got them killed. Of all the things I hate my brother for, that’s right at the top. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2019, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8894 "2019-06-24T01:13:43Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > We should immediately embark on a campaign to arm all 2-year-olds. Well here is a 2 year old who did arm himself (he found a gun in his grandmother’s purse). Unfortunately she failed to teach him proper gun-handling techniques–so he pointed the gun in the wrong direction–and killed himself: > **[Family gripped with grief over shooting death of toddler: 'It was an accident'](https://www.greenvilleonline.com/story/news/local/south-carolina/2019/06/21/family-gripped-grief-over-shooting-death-toddler-it-accident/1526384001/)** > > Within seconds, Kayden managed to unzip the purse, pull the weapon from a holster within the purse and pull the trigger, said the boy's grandfather. Although grandfather did say: > [@](#): > > “Nobody understands the situation. We’re probably one of the safest families around as far as weapons,” Tim Gunter told The Greenville News less than 24 hours after the shooting. Tim Gunter said both he and Bekki Gunter are concealed weapon permit holders and trained in firearms safety. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2019, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8895 "2019-06-24T12:14:50Z")
How the hell can someone say “We’re probably one of the safest families around as far as weapons” immediately after a 2 year old found their gun and shot himself in the face? Morons. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2019, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8896 "2019-06-24T12:20:24Z")
Maybe they _are_. ---
**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8897 "2019-06-25T13:11:28Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Maybe they _are_. morons. Yes. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8898 "2019-06-25T13:28:17Z")
> [@Isamu](#): > > morons. Yes. Moron Labes ---
**Author:** ![CookingWithGas](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cookingwithgas/32/485_2.png) [@CookingWithGas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CookingWithGas)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8899 "2019-06-25T15:50:15Z")
I know I’m preaching to the choir here but I find it sad that so many incidents of criminals having guns and then being shot to death by potential victims with guns is somehow considered positive gun news. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8900 "2019-06-25T17:00:59Z")
> [@CookingWithGas](#): > > I know I’m preaching to the choir here but I find it sad that so many incidents of criminals having guns and then being shot to death by potential victims with guns is somehow considered positive gun news. It’s positive because shooting somebody is totally awesome! People don’t carry guns around with the hopes that they DON’T get to shoot somebody. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2019, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8901 "2019-06-25T17:23:20Z")
ISTM it comes from the Good Guy / Bad Guy filter that distorts their view of the world and the people in it - if the Bad Guy gets shot, that’s Positive Gun News. But any time they’re asked how to tell the difference between Good and Bad Guys, they all either ignore it or just run away. Ambiguity and complexity literally \*scare \*them. Old cowboy movies are comforting. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729.md?page=444) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729.md?page=446)