# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 29, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729 "2013-01-29T19:01:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 447
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8922 "2019-07-12T14:09:20Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > You know how a lot of the fringe Christian right (not sure it’s really fringe any longer) are pushing the “Muslims are going to impose Sharia law and start chopping off hands if you steal something” meme? Christ isn’t all soft and cuddly like Allah. Surprisingly, it’s not even just the fringe Christian right. A lot of normal right-wingers on my Facebook feed post some dumb meme about Sharia law and then say “This is what liberals want for our country!” Uh, no it isn’t. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8923 "2019-07-12T14:12:25Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > Surprisingly, it’s not even just the fringe Christian right. A lot of normal right-wingers on my Facebook feed post some dumb meme about Sharia law and then say “This is what liberals want for our country!” > > Uh, no it isn’t. Sadly, you are correct. I guess most “christians” are now the far batshit crazy right now ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2019, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8924 "2019-07-12T18:58:25Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > That’s because if you steal something, you deserve the death penalty. Especially if that penalty can be executed right at the scene of the crime. Saves time and money! Or attempt to steal something. Or look like the kind of person who would probably steal something. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2019, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8925 "2019-07-13T11:51:40Z")
I was actually referring to the explicit bloodlust in that post, not the gun-lovers’ pretense that it’s simply about self-defense against Bad Guys. But you’re right about vigilantism too, of course. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2019, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8926 "2019-07-13T20:14:22Z")
[Police chief leaves gun in public restroom; gun is immediately stolen](https://apnews.com/3283fb50c454460eadf492c6228b7c8c). > [@](#): > > San Luis Obispo Chief Deanna Cantrell revealed her mistake in a video on the department’s Facebook page, saying her actions were “irresponsible and dangerous” and that she’s glad a child didn’t find the weapon. > > Cantrell said she was having lunch in a restaurant on Wednesday when she went into the restroom. > > “Even though my gun was in a holster it didn’t stay clipped to my pants so I removed it and I placed it next to me,” she said. > [@](#): > > Cantrell said within minutes of leaving the restroom she realized what had happened and went back, but the gun was gone. > > She immediately checked video footage and saw that three people entered the restroom after her. > > “The first man, whose photo was released on Facebook, went into the restroom after me and then immediately left the restaurant without ordering any food,” she said. > > The other two people were still in the restaurant and said the firearm was not in the restroom when they went in, she said. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2019, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8927 "2019-07-13T21:08:43Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > [Police chief leaves gun in public restroom; gun is immediately stolen](https://apnews.com/3283fb50c454460eadf492c6228b7c8c). I do wonder how publicized it would be if the average gun owner leaves their gun in the bathroom. Would the bar even play back the tapes (if they have them), would there be any sort of actual investigation, would this have made national news. Would they even report their stupidity to the bar or to the police? Just as for every toddler that gets shot, there’s probably dozens of stories that we never hear about of a toddler playing with a loaded weapon where thankfully no one gets hurt, for every story we hear of a cop or a teacher leaving their gun behind, there’s probably dozens of stories of some nobody misplacing his gun in public. ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2019, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8929 "2019-07-24T21:42:03Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > Surprisingly, it’s not even just the fringe Christian right. A lot of normal right-wingers on my Facebook feed post some dumb meme about Sharia law and then say “This is what liberals want for our country!” > > Uh, no it isn’t. I have yet to understand how liberals reconcile the cognitive dissonance of embracing multiculturalism while overlooking the profoundly illiberal attitudes of traditional muslim societies. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2019, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8930 "2019-07-24T21:51:25Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > I have yet to understand how liberals reconcile the cognitive dissonance of embracing multiculturalism while overlooking the profoundly illiberal attitudes of traditional muslim societies. If that is true, then I suspect it is because you actively do not want to understand how someone can be condemned for what they do, but not for who they are. This is something that reactionaries like yourself on the right seem to have much trouble in grasping, but I suspect it is not because you are just too stupid to understand such a simple concept, but that you delight in showing off your willful ignorance as if it somehow should impress anyone with your intolerance for anything different from what you are comfortable with. Are comments like those virtue signalling for bigots, letting all the other hateful fucks know that you are on their side or something? Really, what is the point of being proud of pretending to be so fucking stupid? ETA to note that it did take you nearly a fortnight of puzzlement from manson1972’s post to your “contribution”, maybe you actually are that stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8931 "2019-07-25T01:22:59Z")
Ouch. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 9:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8932 "2019-07-25T09:44:04Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > I have yet to understand how liberals reconcile the cognitive dissonance of embracing multiculturalism while overlooking the profoundly illiberal attitudes of traditional muslim societies. Now that the abuse portion of the response to this has been covered, let’s unpack the reality of this. Liberals support freedom of religion. Not “freedom of religion” in the way conservatives currently use it, which is “claiming that one’s bigotry and persecution of others is justified by one’s Christian beliefs”, but rather the freedom of everyone to worship as they please to the extent it doesn’t harm anyone or infringe on the freedom of others to do the same. So we don’t automatically lose our shit just because someone is Muslim. Liberals also oppose homophobia, which is no more or less intrinsic to Islam than it is to Christianity. That homosexuality is currently tolerated much more in Christian-predominant countries than in Muslim-predominant ones has nothing to do with “traditional” Christianity or Islam and everything to do with how much success liberals have had in those countries in promoting basic human rights. Conservative Christians in all countries, and certainly in the US, have never stopped their efforts to persecute homosexuals at home and abroad (let’s not forget the right-wing evangelical groups who tried to get the death penalty applied to gays in Uganda, and who have been supporting the pogroms against gays in Eastern Europe); that doesn’t mean that liberals who support Christianity are experiencing cognitive dissonance either. So in short: saying that people can worship as they want but they’re not allowed to persecute others does not constitute “cognitive dissonance”. If you are still struggling to understand that, that is not evidence of failings on the part of liberals. However, you might also ponder why conservative Christians only seem to care about homosexuals when they can use them to bash Muslims, and spend the rest of the time advocating anti-gay policies remarkably similar to those that conservative Muslims espouse. And now back to stupid gun news. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8933 "2019-07-25T13:36:07Z")
> [@amyacker](#): > > I don`t know but may be if i could sold my sig Rattler? That’s a very interesting question. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2019, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8934 "2019-07-25T13:46:09Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > I have yet to understand how liberals reconcile the cognitive dissonance of embracing multiculturalism while overlooking the profoundly illiberal attitudes of traditional muslim societies. Are you sure you meant to post that in Stupid Gun News? ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8935 "2019-07-26T01:25:07Z")
A responsible gun owner in suburban St. Louis had a few drinks (BAC 0.148), gathered up a pistol, rifle, and shotgun, and went out to his back yard to exercise his fundamental right to bear arms. He fired into the trees behind his house, which just so happen to also border a city park. He squeezed off approximately 115 rounds before he was arrested. Luckily, no one was injured. > **[Police: Drunk man fired 115 shots toward Overland park](https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/crime/police-drunk-man-fired-115-shots-toward-overland-park/63-b08c5c3f-08d5-4dc8-9e2b-724e27b29b6e)** > > Police said Manley came out of that house and told police he was shooting into the woods behind his home. That woods also borders Wild Acres Park. I hope his militia uses this as a teachable moment and reinforces proper target selection and judicious use of precious ammo at their next training muster. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8936 "2019-07-26T12:22:50Z")
He must have stolen those guns, since we all know criminals don’t use legally purchased weapons. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2019, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8937 "2019-07-27T17:58:32Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Are you sure you meant to post that in Stupid Gun News? We don’t have a “Stupid Gun Nut Spews” thread, so I guess he figured it was close enough. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2019, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8938 "2019-07-29T05:34:52Z")
There was something kind of stupid-ish in a small town in California. Apparently the guy with the gun had a hair up his ass about people who eat too much garlic. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2019, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8939 "2019-07-29T05:52:46Z")
Are we sure he isn’t just some Vampire’s minion, sent to destroy or disrupt the festival? ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2019, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8940 "2019-07-29T11:07:12Z")
Imagine being a first responder and having to do mouth-to-mouth. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2019, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8941 "2019-07-29T12:41:57Z")
The shock, revulsion, and determination to act over in the Safe Space thread are simply indescribable. Because they don’t exist. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2019, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8943 "2019-08-02T12:45:07Z")
[Trained law enforcement officer accidentally kills woman while trying to shoot barking dog.](https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/02/us/arlington-officer-kills-woman-while-shooting-at-dog/index.html) > [@](#): > > “As the officer called out to the woman repeatedly concerning her welfare, the dog began to run towards the officer while barking. The officer retreated backwards from the running dog while drawing his duty firearm,” police said. “The officer discharged his firearm multiple times towards the dog. After the shots were fired, the woman yelled out and it was apparent she was injured.” > > She was taken to a local hospital and pronounced dead. Preliminary information shows she was struck by gunfire from the officer, according to the police. Moral of the story: don’t call the police for a welfare check. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729.md?page=446) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729.md?page=448)