# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 29, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729 "2013-01-29T19:01:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2019, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8944 "2019-08-04T02:28:42Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> [Trained law enforcement officer accidentally kills woman while trying to shoot barking dog.](https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/02/us/arlington-officer-kills-woman-while-shooting-at-dog/index.html)  
> Moral of the story: don’t call the police for a welfare check.

I thought the government sent out welfare checks.

Ba-da-BOOM!

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2019, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8945 "2019-08-04T02:37:55Z")

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They did. And he shot her.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2019, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8946 "2019-08-04T13:53:52Z")

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I guess three mass shootings within one week that left around 32 dead would qualify as “stupid gun news”. Come on folks…up your Thoughts and Prayers game! ☹

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2019, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8947 "2019-08-04T15:04:07Z")

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“Now is not the time …” :rolleyes:

This is _exactly_ the time.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2019, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8948 "2019-08-04T20:12:01Z")

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It’s NEVER time when it comes to gun filth and Republican trash.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2019, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8949 "2019-08-06T03:11:45Z")

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A 100 round ammunition magazine is just stupid.

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**Author:** ![Rayks\_Marcial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e47c2d/32.png) [@Rayks\_Marcial](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rayks_Marcial)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2019, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8950 "2019-08-06T03:12:02Z")

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It’s just the recent spate of shootings. Have fun with your guns when the wailing has subsided.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2019, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8951 "2019-08-06T15:47:42Z")

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[Florida Man is at it again!](https://apnews.com/dd5336b7aa3543cd98387a3e03afc301)

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> Authorities say a 55-year-old Florida man pulled a gun on a late-arriving furniture delivery team, saying he’s “shot people for less.”
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> Manatee County Sheriff’s investigators say Mitchell Helton is charged with two counts of aggravated assault. He was arrested Aug. 3 after the delivery team called the sheriff’s office.
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> The Bradenton Herald reports the delivery men called Helton to let him know they were on their way. When they arrived at his home, they say Helton was upset because it took them so long to arrive.
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> As they unloaded the furniture, deputies say Helton pointed a gun at them. The men tried to deescalate the situation and told him how to file a complaint.
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> An arrest report says Helton couldn’t explain why he confronted the men with a gun.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2019, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8952 "2019-08-07T00:32:48Z")

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That seems like “Positive Gun News” to me. Real American uses gun to force lazy workers to work faster!

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2019, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8953 "2019-08-08T13:26:25Z")

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Not quite the same variety of “Stupid Gun News”, but still fits under that umbrella:

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> **[NRA chief sought purchase of $6 million mansion in wake of Parkland shooting](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/documents-show-nra-discussions-to-purchase-luxury-mansion-for-use-of-its-chief-executive/2019/08/06/eb8b0490-b7ce-11e9-b3b4-2bb69e8c4e39_story.html)**
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> The chief executive of the National Rifle Association sought to have the nonprofit organization buy him a luxury mansion last year after a mass shooting at a Florida high school, selecting a French country-style estate in a gated Dallas-area golf club, according to multiple people familiar with the discussions…

Lest the hunters and shooters of America doubt that this would be a wise investment of their dues money, Wayne LaPierre provides a good explanation:

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> Wayne LaPierre, the longtime head of the NRA, told associates he was worried about being targeted and needed a more secure place to live after 17 people were gunned down at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Fla., the people said…

Alas, the plan seems to have fallen through, aborting the precedent that the NRA is to be expected to provide a six million dollar mansion as a remedy for fears inspired by a mass shooting.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2019, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8954 "2019-08-08T15:03:07Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> Not quite the same variety of “Stupid Gun News”, but still fits under that umbrella:
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> Lest the hunters and shooters of America doubt that this would be a wise investment of their dues money, Wayne LaPierre provides a good explanation:
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> Alas, the plan seems to have fallen through, aborting the precedent that the NRA is to be expected to provide a six million dollar mansion as a remedy for fears inspired by a mass shooting.

Actually, sounds like a reasonable solution to gun violence, just give everyone their own 6 million dollar mansion.

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2019, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8955 "2019-08-09T00:49:12Z")

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Today, a guy wearing body armor and carrying a gun and 100 rounds of ammunition walked into a Walmart in Springfield MO and started filming himself.

A customer with a gun held him until cops arrived. No one was hurt.

[https://www.riverfronttimes.com/newsblog/2019/08/08/armor-clad-man-with-guns-100-rounds-of-ammo-arrested-at-missouri-walmart?media=AMP%20HTML&\_\_twitter\_impression=true](https://www.riverfronttimes.com/newsblog/2019/08/08/armor-clad-man-with-guns-100-rounds-of-ammo-arrested-at-missouri-walmart?media=AMP%20HTML&__twitter_impression=true)

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2019, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8956 "2019-08-09T00:57:34Z")

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> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#):
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> Today, a guy wearing body armor and carrying a gun and 100 rounds of ammunition walked into a Walmart in Springfield MO and started filming himself.
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> A customer with a gun held him until cops arrived. No one was hurt.
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> [https://www.riverfronttimes.com/newsblog/2019/08/08/armor-clad-man-with-guns-100-rounds-of-ammo-arrested-at-missouri-walmart?media=AMP%20HTML&\_\_twitter\_impression=true](https://www.riverfronttimes.com/newsblog/2019/08/08/armor-clad-man-with-guns-100-rounds-of-ammo-arrested-at-missouri-walmart?media=AMP%20HTML&__twitter_impression=true)

That is just…bizarre. Did he want to get arrested?

And it was an armed off-duty firefighter that held him, after he left the store.

Very, very strange.

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**Author:** ![DragonAsh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/db5fbb/32.png) [@DragonAsh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DragonAsh)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2019, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8957 "2019-08-09T00:59:46Z")

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> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#):
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> Today, a guy wearing body armor and carrying a gun and 100 rounds of ammunition walked into a Walmart in Springfield MO and started filming himself.  
> A customer with a gun held him until cops arrived. No one was hurt.

So - someone wearing body armor, in battle fatigues, with a rifle, handgun and 100 rounds of ammunition, was eventually arrested by cops without incident, and the suspect is still alive with nary a scratch.

Armed only with that information, take a guess as to the color of the suspect’s skin.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2019, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8958 "2019-08-09T01:01:27Z")

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> [@DragonAsh](#):
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> So - someone wearing body armor, in battle fatigues, with a rifle, handgun and 100 rounds of ammunition, was eventually arrested by cops without incident, and the suspect is still alive with nary a scratch.
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> Armed only with that information, take a guess as to the color of the suspect’s skin.

Green?

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**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2019, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8959 "2019-08-09T03:20:06Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> That is just…bizarre. Did he want to get arrested?
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> And it was an armed off-duty firefighter that held him, after he left the store.
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> Very, very strange.

My wild speculation is the guy was looking to cause a scene and film the results rather than actually shoot up the place. You know those douchebags who walk around with rifles to prove they can and/or to provoke a reaction so they can say how they were just exercising their Second Amendment rights? I figure this guy was trying to pull that stunt. I would think if he’d wanted to shoot people, he probably would have started shooting when he came in or when the manager pulled the fire alarm rather than hang out till the other customer detained him.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2019, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8960 "2019-08-09T05:09:47Z")

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> [@DragonAsh](#):
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> So - someone wearing body armor, in battle fatigues, with a rifle, handgun and 100 rounds of ammunition, was eventually arrested by cops without incident, and the suspect is still alive with nary a scratch.
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> Armed only with that information, take a guess as to the color of the suspect’s skin.

This will become a Positive Gun News post once no charges are pressed, he gets his gun back, and those who detained and arrested him are forced to apologize for disrespecting his rights.

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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2019, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8961 "2019-08-09T12:22:06Z")

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I’m curious what right the off-duty fireman had to hold the guy at gunpoint?

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2019, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8962 "2019-08-09T13:08:22Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> That is just…bizarre. Did he want to get arrested?
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> And it was an armed off-duty firefighter that held him, after he left the store.
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> Very, very strange.

Nobody said these gun enthusiasts or white nationalists were rational or mentally stable; they’re just dangerous. We’re fortunate this one gave us a warning.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2019, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8963 "2019-08-09T13:46:20Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> I’m curious what right the off-duty fireman had to hold the guy at gunpoint?

He had a gun, and that gives you the right to do anything. But, wait, so did the other guy…

Agghhh, clash of the gun rights. Who is in the right, the person threatening the public with the gun, or the person threatening the person threatening the public with a gun. My head hurts now.

Now, in the end, the fire fighter would probably end up being in less trouble had he shot him. Self defense should be fairly effective and obvious in this situation, but as he didn’t kill him, now he may come back and sue for having his rights violated.

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