# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 29, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729 "2013-01-29T19:01:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 449
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2019, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8964 "2019-08-09T13:50:31Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > He had a gun, and that gives you the right to do anything. But, wait, so did the other guy… > > Agghhh, clash of the gun rights. Who is in the right, the person threatening the public with the gun, or the person threatening the person threatening the public with a gun. My head hurts now. He was legally carrying his gun while pushing a shopping cart and filming himself. How is that “threatening the public with a gun”? I wonder if he would have gotten in trouble for shooting the fireman? ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2019, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8965 "2019-08-09T13:58:44Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > He was legally carrying his gun while pushing a shopping cart and filming himself. How is that “threatening the public with a gun”? > > I wonder if he would have gotten in trouble for shooting the fireman? That’s the beautiful logic of the Second Amendment fundamentalists. Two guys with guns are afraid of each other? Whoever survives is the Good Guy With a Gun. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2019, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8966 "2019-08-09T16:27:58Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > Alas, the plan seems to have fallen through, aborting the precedent that the NRA is to be expected to provide a six million dollar mansion as a remedy for fears inspired by a mass shooting. Wait I thought that all that was needed to stop all violence was a good guy with a gun. So does that mean that LaPierre, the chief executive of the NRA, doesn’t actually own a gun, or that he’s not a good guy? I’m going to go for the easy money and bet on the latter. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2019, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8967 "2019-08-09T23:21:30Z")
Funny that the guy trolling Wal-Mart (“_I wanted to know if that Walmart honored the 2nd Amendment_”) was Дмитрий Андрейченко. Are all Russians trolls now? ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2019, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8968 "2019-08-09T23:51:55Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Funny that the guy trolling Wal-Mart (“_I wanted to know if that Walmart honored the 2nd Amendment_”) was Дмитрий Андрейченко. Are all Russians trolls now? I’m not trying to be confrontational, but huh? Can you give me a little context here? ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2019, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8969 "2019-08-09T23:57:18Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > He was legally carrying his gun while pushing a shopping cart and filming himself. How is that “threatening the public with a gun”? > > I wonder if he would have gotten in trouble for shooting the fireman? You should watch the video at the bottom of the linked article. There is more info there than in the printed article. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2019, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8970 "2019-08-10T00:35:17Z")
> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#): > > I’m not trying to be confrontational, but huh? Can you give me a little context here? That’s the guy’s name in Cyrillic. He is Russian. He’s a troll. He’s a Russian troll. Wonder if we’ve seen him around here. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2019, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8971 "2019-08-10T00:39:16Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > That’s the guy’s name in Cyrillic. He is Russian. He’s a troll. He’s a Russian troll. > > Wonder if we’ve seen him around here. Ah, thanks. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2019, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8972 "2019-08-10T01:04:18Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > Funny that the guy trolling Wal-Mart (“_I wanted to know if that Walmart honored the 2nd Amendment_”) was Дмитрий Андрейченко. Are all Russians trolls now? I spent a whole five minutes searching Google for evidence that trolls are a thing in Russian folklore and came up empty. I guess they had to make some up themselves. > [@k9bfriender](#): > > He is Russian. He’s a troll. He’s a Russian troll. No, no, no! Is “He is Russian. He is troll. He is Russian troll.” Did Walter Koenig teach you nothing about speaking with a Russian accent? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2019, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8973 "2019-08-10T11:47:00Z")
It’s the fault of the shoppers for being, what do they call it, “hoplophobes”. This asswipe was just doing some “exposure therapy” for their own good. No, really, there are actual Dopers who explain it that way. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2019, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8974 "2019-08-10T12:41:21Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > It’s the fault of the shoppers for being, what do they call it, “hoplophobes”. This asswipe was just doing some “exposure therapy” for their own good. > > No, really, there are actual Dopers who explain it that way. Yep, because nothing will reduce the carnage from the next shooter more than if people become accustomed to seeing armed men with body armor walking around. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2019, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8975 "2019-08-10T13:22:25Z")
So, Dimitriy has been charged. I wonder if lawyers are lining up to represent him. If the charges are dropped or he’s found not guilty, this could be a huge deal. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2019, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8976 "2019-08-10T16:04:41Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > [Florida Man is at it again!](https://apnews.com/dd5336b7aa3543cd98387a3e03afc301) at it **AGAIN**??? What the ever loving fuck! Oh yeah. 2nd mendmunt gun rites. Holy fuck. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2019, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8977 "2019-08-10T16:07:07Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > Green? Hulk no need puny gun. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2019, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8978 "2019-08-10T16:08:07Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > I’m curious what right the off-duty fireman had to hold the guy at gunpoint? Everyone goes shopping fully armed and covered with armor :smack: ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2019, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8979 "2019-08-10T16:11:39Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > Wait I thought that all that was needed to stop all violence was a good guy with a gun. So does that mean that LaPierre, the chief executive of the NRA, doesn’t actually own a gun, or that he’s not a good guy? > > I’m going to go for the easy money and bet on the latter. How MANY mass shootings have there been? And how many were in gun “friendly” places (i.e. Nevada and Texas)? So where the fuck are all the good guys with guns? Hiding with that other shit bird La Pierre??? Where ARE they all? As for LaPierre, he doesn’t care if any of us get killed. So in turn, I don’t care if HE does. No fucks will be given. ---
**Author:** ![Defensive\_Indifference](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/defensive_indifference/32/6502_2.png) [@Defensive\_Indifference](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Defensive_Indifference)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2019, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8980 "2019-08-10T17:49:27Z")
> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#): > > My wild speculation is the guy was looking to cause a scene and film the results rather than actually shoot up the place. You know those douchebags who walk around with rifles to prove they can and/or to provoke a reaction so they can say how they were just exercising their Second Amendment rights? I figure this guy was trying to pull that stunt. I would think if he’d wanted to shoot people, he probably would have started shooting when he came in or when the manager pulled the fire alarm rather than hang out till the other customer detained him. In a surprising development, I actually got this one more or less right. The bozo says he was conducting an experiment to see if Walmart honored the Second Amendment. I guess he wanted to be sure that one of the nations largest in gun retailers, who permits open carry in their stores, was committed to gun rights. [https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/08/10/us/walmart-armed-man-missouri-second-amendment/index.html?r=http%3A%2F%2Fboards.straightdope.com%2Fsdmb%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D879859%26page%3D3](https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/08/10/us/walmart-armed-man-missouri-second-amendment/index.html?r=http%3A%2F%2Fboards.straightdope.com%2Fsdmb%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D879859%26page%3D3) ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2019, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8981 "2019-08-10T18:51:52Z")
> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#): > > In a surprising development, I actually got this one more or less right. The bozo says he was conducting an experiment to see if Walmart honored the Second Amendment. I guess he wanted to be sure that one of the nations largest in gun retailers, who permits open carry in their stores, was committed to gun rights. > > [https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/08/10/us/walmart-armed-man-missouri-second-amendment/index.html?r=http%3A%2F%2Fboards.straightdope.com%2Fsdmb%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D879859%26page%3D3](https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/08/10/us/walmart-armed-man-missouri-second-amendment/index.html?r=http%3A%2F%2Fboards.straightdope.com%2Fsdmb%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D879859%26page%3D3) Fuck him anyway. I’m over all that kind of bullshit. I USED TO BE on their side, I was pro 2A, until they went all full retard. Fuck 'em now. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2019, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8982 "2019-08-10T19:06:29Z")
> [@Defensive\_Indifference](#): > > In a surprising development, I actually got this one more or less right. The bozo says he was conducting an experiment to see if Walmart honored the Second Amendment. I guess he wanted to be sure that one of the nations largest in gun retailers, who permits open carry in their stores, was committed to gun rights. > > [https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/08/10/us/walmart-armed-man-missouri-second-amendment/index.html?r=http%3A%2F%2Fboards.straightdope.com%2Fsdmb%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D879859%26page%3D3](https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/08/10/us/walmart-armed-man-missouri-second-amendment/index.html?r=http%3A%2F%2Fboards.straightdope.com%2Fsdmb%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D879859%26page%3D3) From the linked article: > [@](#): > > Police Lt. Mike Lucas said he did indeed cause a panic. > “His intent was not to cause peace or comfort to anybody that was in the business,” Lucas said. So anytime we see anybody carrying a gun in an open-carry state, we should scream “He’s got a gun!” and run for the exits. That would be causing a panic, yes? Might be a tactic worth considering. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2019, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/8983 "2019-08-10T19:46:59Z")
Not exactly the right place for [this](https://www.npr.org/2019/08/09/749784950/walmart-bans-violent-imagery-but-not-gun-sales) but what the hell. > [@](#): > > After a mass shooting at a Walmart in El Paso, Texas, that left 22 people dead, the company said it would remove from its stores all signs, displays or videos that depict violence in an internal memo. > > However, the chain did not say it would stop selling firearms despite pressure from progressives and gun control advocates. Its pretty clear which side of the culture war Walmart’s lining up on. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729.md?page=448) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729.md?page=450)