# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 29, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729 "2013-01-29T19:01:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 452
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9024 "2019-09-11T13:20:47Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > There did not seem to be a thread on this. I [wanted to put the link in the **Positive Gun News** thread](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/lawmaker-san-francisco-nra-terrorist-organization-880727/), but I suspect I would be accused of trolling. > San Francisco Supervisor Catherine Stefani created a stir this week, winning unanimous passage of a resolution to label the NRA a “domestic terrorist organization,” citing the gun lobby’s violent rhetoric and promotion of loose gun laws.[indent]_It was not a difficult lift at all here in San Francisco. As we (say) here: As San Francisco goes so goes California and the rest of the nation. The NRA describes what I’m doing as a reckless “assault.” What I say is that the NRA’s reckless assault on America is about to come to an end. They are more fringe and more toxic than ever and the American people have had enough._[/INDENT] It’s only Positive Gun News if a criminal gets killed. Unless a cop shoots a criminal, in which case it’s NOT Positive gun news for some reason. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9025 "2019-09-11T14:59:42Z")
Let’s see…private property…owner requests people not open carry there…so what do you do? You say “fuck you” to them and [carry your penile replacement around proudly because…well, because what you want trumps literally every other concern on the planet evidently](https://news.yahoo.com/gun-advocacy-group-says-members-100524594.html). ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9026 "2019-09-11T15:11:08Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > There did not seem to be a thread on this. I [wanted to put the link in the **Positive Gun News** thread](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/lawmaker-san-francisco-nra-terrorist-organization-880727/), but I suspect I would be accused of trolling. > San Francisco Supervisor Catherine Stefani created a stir this week, winning unanimous passage of a resolution to label the NRA a “domestic terrorist organization,” citing the gun lobby’s violent rhetoric and promotion of loose gun laws.[indent]_It was not a difficult lift at all here in San Francisco. As we (say) here: As San Francisco goes so goes California and the rest of the nation. The NRA describes what I’m doing as a reckless “assault.” What I say is that the NRA’s reckless assault on America is about to come to an end. They are more fringe and more toxic than ever and the American people have had enough._[/INDENT] Well, I definitely think that this qualifies as stupid gun news. I love San Francisco. My wife’s originally from there, and we visit at least a couple of times a year. But lots of people in that city are fantastic at meaningless, pointless posturing, and this is a perfect example. They have a massive homeless crisis, housing affordability is a nightmare, and they’re more interested in a gesture that does almost nothing but express outrage. About the only concrete part of this resolution is a section that aims to deny city contracts to organizations with ties to the NRA, and that will almost certainly be found to violate the Constitution. ---
**Author:** ![sps49sd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@sps49sd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sps49sd)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9027 "2019-09-11T16:32:28Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > Well, I definitely think that this qualifies as stupid gun news. > > I love San Francisco. My wife’s originally from there, and we visit at least a couple of times a year. But lots of people in that city are fantastic at meaningless, pointless posturing, and this is a perfect example. They have a massive homeless crisis, housing affordability is a nightmare, and they’re more interested in a gesture that does almost nothing but express outrage. About the only concrete part of this resolution is a section that aims to deny city contracts to organizations with ties to the NRA, and that will almost certainly be found to violate the Constitution. It’s already a pain in the ass for a vendor to be ‘approved’ by the City, what with the stupid hoops through which a company is supposed to jump to be allowed to exchange things for money with CCSF. This makes a lot of purchases more costly than is another entity made the purchase. And it is ultimately meaningless. If someone is the sole source for repair parts or tech support, and that source does not care to provide same-sex benefits to all worldwide employees, then we use resellers. Who perform one function- after being approved by the City, they may now buy whatever we need from whoever has it, then resell it to the City- at greatly increased markup. So, yes, stupid posturing is all this is. And the City will be paying legal fees to defend this posturing. SMH. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2019, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9028 "2019-09-15T19:54:38Z")
> [@](#): > > When officers arrived the woman told them she was driving northbound on I-435 near Worlds of Fun and honked at a vehicle driving slowly in front of her while the driver texted. > > The driver then then cut her off and began driving 45 miles an hour before the driver pulled out a gun and shot once, she told police. > > The victim, who also had a gun, then fired several shots back at the vehicle before pulling off the road and calling police, according to Kansas City police. > > Read more here: [https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article235096077.html#storylink=cpy](https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/crime/article235096077.html#storylink=cpy) Which one is the good guy in this one? Maybe I should post it over in Positive Gun News, since I guess the woman gets credit for a DGU, even though the gun wasn’t killed/stopped? ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2019, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9029 "2019-09-15T20:34:10Z")
I guess the good gun news is that no guns were injured in this fight between two motor vehicles. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2019, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9030 "2019-09-16T12:51:25Z")
If we were allowed to have guns mounted to our cars, think of how many road rage incidents would be avoided? A society with armed cars is a polite society! ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2019, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9031 "2019-09-16T13:14:00Z")
> [@Muffin](#): > > I guess the good gun news is that no guns were injured in this fight between two motor vehicles. Is it time for a “Stupid Cars and Swimming Pools News of the Day” thread? ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9032 "2019-09-19T18:16:32Z")
Colt has announced they will stop manufacturing AR-15s due to falling sales > **[Amphibious Allies: US, Coalition forces refine amphibious capabilities](https://americanmilitarynews.com/2017/10/amphibious-allies-us-coalition-forces-refine-amphibious-capabilities/)** > > Marines, Sailors and coalition forces integrated as one to demonstrate and increase combined arms operational proficiency during exercise Bold Alligator ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9033 "2019-09-19T19:21:02Z")
Wait … isn’t that Positive Gun News? ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2019, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9034 "2019-09-19T19:35:10Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Wait … isn’t that Positive Gun News? I couldn’t find that thread. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![mjmlabs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mjmlabs/32/69_2.png) [@mjmlabs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mjmlabs)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2019, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9035 "2019-10-01T06:14:14Z")
**[Dallas man accused of fatally shooting burglar and going back to bed before calling 911](https://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/2019/09/27/dallas-man-accused-of-fatally-shooting-burglar-and-going-back-to-bed-before-calling-911/)** _James Michael Meyer, 72, is charged with murder in the Thursday morning incident, which took place in the 5400 block of Philip Avenue in Old East Dallas._ > [@](#): > > A Dallas man is accused of fatally shooting a burglar outside his Old East Dallas home Thursday and going back to bed before calling police nearly two hours later. > > James Michael Meyer, 72, has been charged with murder. He was in the Dallas County Jail in lieu of $150,000 bail Friday evening. > > According to an arrest warrant affidavit, officers were dispatched at 7:04 a.m. on a home invasion call in the 5400 block of Philip Avenue, near Interstate 30 and Grand Avenue, where they found the body of an unknown male face down in a park behind the home. > > Dallas-Fire Rescue workers noted that blood on the body was dry and eventually determined that the person had been dead for some time. > > Meyer told police that he had been awakened about 5 a.m. by noise outside and saw someone trying to break into his storage shed with a pickax when he looked through the window, the affidavit said. > > Meyer said he grabbed his handgun and chambered a round, then came out of his home yelling at the person to stop what he was doing and not come any closer or else he’d shoot. > > Instead, he told police, the person took several steps toward him, so he fired his gun, according to the affidavit. > > At that point, the burglar dropped the pickax and ran toward the park. > > Meyer said he fired an additional shot “into the night” in the direction of the park, even though “from the suspect’s accounts, the threat of serious bodily injury against him was over when the complainant dropped the pickax and ran off,” the affidavit said. > > Meyer said he didn’t know whether he had struck the person, so he went back to bed. > > As the sun began to rise, Meyer again looked outside and saw “a black bag” in the park. Upon closer inspection, he found the individual lying face down in the park. > > Meyer’s wife called an attorney for advice before Meyer called 911, the affidavit said. > > According to the affidavit, he refused to answer the dispatcher’s questions, saying repeatedly that he was the victim of a crime and that medical assistance was needed. > > When investigators couldn’t find any spent shell casings, Meyer told them he had thrown them in the trash. > > Neighbors told investigators that they’d heard three gunshots about 5:15 a.m., contradicting Meyer’s account of the number of shots fired. Shoot at somebody … then go back to bed for a couple hours before calling the cops? What the living f\*ck?!? ---
**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2019, 11:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9036 "2019-10-01T11:00:23Z")
> [@mjmlabs](#): > > **[Dallas man accused of fatally shooting burglar and going back to bed before calling 911](https://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/2019/09/27/dallas-man-accused-of-fatally-shooting-burglar-and-going-back-to-bed-before-calling-911/)** > _James Michael Meyer, 72, is charged with murder in the Thursday morning incident, which took place in the 5400 block of Philip Avenue in Old East Dallas._ > > Shoot at somebody … then go back to bed for a couple hours before calling the cops? What the living f\*ck?!? In that neighborhood, I can see it. Not the best neighborhood in Dallas. Probably thought he missed him completely. Old guy may have had warrants, be a felon in possession, or other reasons he didn’t want to get Johnny Law involved. The whole thing may not have been a case of burglar v. homeowner at all. Dumb thing to do, but hardly unusual in a lot of places. Thing is, if he was going to leave things as a minor mystery for law enforcement to solve, calling the cops on himself 4 hours later is not the way to go about it. Further, how does Dallas PD know that the holes in the alleged burglar came from the homeowner’s weapon? Ballistics? Big blood trail from old guy’s shed to the place where the body was discovered? ---
**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2019, 11:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9037 "2019-10-01T11:02:50Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Colt has announced they will stop manufacturing AR-15s due to falling sales > [Amphibious Allies: US, Coalition forces refine amphibious capabilities | American Military News](https://americanmilitarynews.com/2019/09/colt-is-ending-production-of-ar-15s/amp) They’re making them still; they’re just fulfilling only military and LE contracts. Not that it matters much, but it is a deceptive headline. ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2019, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9038 "2019-10-01T11:44:24Z")
> [@Gray\_Ghost](#): > > Further, how does Dallas PD know that the holes in the alleged burglar came from the homeowner’s weapon? Ballistics? Big blood trail from old guy’s shed to the place where the body was discovered? Sorta spit-ballin’ here, but if you tell the cops you shot at a guy behind your house and there’s a guy behind your house with bullet holes in him, they’re going to think it was your bullet what killed 'em, and not some random bullet from someone else. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2019, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9039 "2019-10-01T17:35:21Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Under Oregon’s red flag law, the FBI took a guy’s guns away and put him in twenty days involuntary mental health evaluation after he threatened to shoot up antifa protesters. > [https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2019/08/an-ex-marine-said-hed-slaughter-antifa-the-fbi-using-oregons-new-red-flag-law-took-his-guns-away.html](https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2019/08/an-ex-marine-said-hed-slaughter-antifa-the-fbi-using-oregons-new-red-flag-law-took-his-guns-away.html) Good. He made a threat, they took it serous. Good. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2019, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9040 "2019-10-01T17:37:52Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > It would be even better news if he never had access to tools of mass murder, and didn’t have to be stopped just barely in time. > > That’s exactly the kind of Good Guy we’re constantly being told would make a great school guardian. This. Crazy bastards should NOT have access to guns. period. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2019, 7:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9041 "2019-10-04T07:21:31Z")
[Florida man shot and killed son-in-law in case of mistaken identity, sheriff says](https://news.yahoo.com/florida-man-shot-killed-son-231745155.html). > [@](#): > > A Florida man will not face charges after authorities said he accidentally shot and killed his son-in-law who had just flown to the U.S. from Norway as a birthday surprise. > > The tragic case of mistaken identity occurred around 11:30 p.m. Tuesday at a home in Gulf Breeze, said Santa Rosa County Sheriff Bob Johnson at a Thursday press conference. > > Johnson said that Richard Dennis, 61, of Gulf Breeze shot and killed 37-year-old Christopher Bergan, who was married to Dennis’ daughter. Bergan had flown from Norway to Florida to surprise his father-in-law for his birthday, the sheriff said. Damn, don’t disturb dear dad! > [@from the link above](#): > > Earlier that evening, Dennis and another relative got into an argument after the relative came by the home and banged on the front door, according to police. ---
**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2019, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9042 "2019-10-04T07:42:18Z")
Is that mistaken identity? If so, who did he mistakenly think he was shooting? I doubt he established any identity. If you say he thought he was shooting at an intruder then he didn’t establish any identity at all. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2019, 7:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9043 "2019-10-04T07:44:08Z")
I’ve not clicked this thread for a while. Much excitement!! But don’t several of these posts belong in the _Positive Guns give me a Hard-On_ thread? > [@k9bfriender](#): > > And that was my first thought too. I don’t know whether it was really an accident or not, but that does set an interesting precedent that you can openly kill someone and only get charged with a first degree misdemeanor if you use a gun. > > Hard to claim it was an accident when it is a knife. Great minds think alike! I wondered if this were it. What was the misdemeanor for? Borrowing a toy without permission? If playing with a gun is a way to avoid a murder rap for someone who deserved killing, shouldn’t this be in the Good Gun News thread? > [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Under Oregon’s red flag law, the FBI took a guy’s guns away and put him in twenty days involuntary mental health evaluation after he threatened to shoot up antifa protesters. That’s Oregon. In Alerbammer or South Calinkey he’d have been offered a medal. > [@Slash1972](#): > > What part of “shall not be infringed” don’t you understand??? 🙂 Right. If Yahweh had wanted to exclude lunatics he would have mentioned that when he wrote the Second Amendment atop Mt. Sinai, wouldn’t he have? > [@Railer13](#): > > More news from Texas, where they obviously need no gun regulations: > Man accidentally shoots himself in groin at gun club in Guadalupe County Again, this should be in the Good News thread. Assuming both testicles were damaged, his own gun will stop him from spawning more gun nuts! > [@mjmlabs](#): > > … Dallas man accused of fatally shooting burglar and going back to bed before calling 911 … > > Shoot at somebody … then go back to bed for a couple hours before calling the cops? What the living f\*ck?!? More good news … for insomniacs like me. Next time I’m having trouble sleeping, I’ll just kill someone with a gun. :smack: [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729.md?page=451) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729.md?page=453)