# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 29, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729 "2013-01-29T19:01:55Z")\
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**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2020, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9264 "2020-06-16T01:20:31Z")

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> [@CookingWithGas](#):
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> This is the kind of “responsible” gun owner that scares the living shit out of me. I’ll bet he has been waiting with his guns and camos for just such an opportunity to jump into heroic action. This is why people in other countries think we are just batshit crazy.

From the story: “When officers arrived in the 2400 block of Dawn Court around 6 p.m. Thursday, they encountered Scott Gudmundsen (pictured) – dressed in fatigues and holding two men on the ground at gunpoint, Shaffer said”

Why didn’t the police come screeching into the location and immediately start shooting the guy? How can they “fear for their life” when maybe a person has a weapon, but don’t “fear for their life” when they pull up and a guy has an immediately recognizable gun pointed at people?

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2020, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9265 "2020-06-16T12:04:17Z")

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Armed right wing militia opens fire on protesters in Albuquerque, one wounded.

> **[Protester In Albuquerque Wounded During Shooting At Rally Over Removal Of Statue](https://www.npr.org/sections/live-updates-protests-for-racial-justice/2020/06/16/877772554/protester-in-albuquerque-wounded-during-shooting-at-rally-over-removal-of-statue)**
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> Police say the person was shot and critically wounded during a protest aimed at removing the statue of a Spanish conquistador. Some protesters blame members of a local militia for the shooting.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2020, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9266 "2020-06-16T12:20:42Z")

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> [@CookingWithGas](#):
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> Now here comes the stupid part. The sheriff’s department shows up. They see a black man brandishing a gun at several white people, and arrested the property owner–the black man. The white attackers waved as the police drove him away.
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> Once someone figured out what happened, the sheriff’s department apologized, charges were dropped, and now the white attackers are in jail without bond.

Whatever one thinks, in general, about gun rights and gun ownership, it’s clear that many gun rights and gun ownership supporters in America have a strong element of racial bias in their definition of who should get to use a gun for self-defense, and that many police have internalized that bias. This story is just another example of a black person getting arrested for the type of gun use that white people can often engage in with impunity.

George Zimmerman didn’t get arrested on the night that he shot and killed Trayvon Martin. If the cops had arrived and Martin was standing over Zimmerman’s body with a gun, and with an identical story, there’s no way that Martin wouldn’t have been arrested, IMO.

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2020, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9267 "2020-06-16T13:04:32Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> George Zimmerman didn’t get arrested on the night that he shot and killed Trayvon Martin. If the cops had arrived and Martin was standing over Zimmerman’s body with a gun, and with an identical story, there’s no way that Martin wouldn’t have been arrested, IMO.

Arrested? I hate to say it (I know a number of police officers and believe they are ‘good’ ones), but I think the odds are good that there would have been two dead instead of just one.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2020, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9268 "2020-06-28T16:37:27Z")

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An employee [opened fire at](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-california-shooting-walmart/shooting-at-california-walmart-distribution-center-leaves-two-dead-four-injured-idUSKBN23Z08S) a Walmart distribution center, killing 2, injuring 4.

Guns make people stupid.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2020, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9269 "2020-07-06T02:45:19Z")

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74-year-old woman killed by “celebratory gunfire” on 4th of July.

> “Last night as people throughout Durham peacefully celebrated the July 4th holiday with their friends and family, a small few chose to put our community at risk by carelessly firing guns into the air,” said Durham Police Chief, Cerelyn J. Davis. “This reckless behavior led to the tragic death of Ms. Paulette Thorpe. Ms. Thorpe’s death reminds us that we as a community must work together to prevent these senseless acts, so that no family suffers such a tragedy ever again.”

> **[74-year-old woman killed by July 4 'celebratory gunfire' in Durham, police say](https://abc11.com/paulette-thorpe-durham-woman-killed-by-celebratory-gunfire-burlington-ave-shooting-on-july-4/6298848/)**
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> A 74-year-old woman was struck by celebratory gunfire on the night of the Fourth of July in Durham. She later died at the hospital.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [July 12, 2020, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9270 "2020-07-12T01:49:44Z")

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Why is it always the couch cushions?

[https://www.therecordherald.com/news/20200709/boy-gets-loaded-gun-from-couch-kills-little-brother-during-cops-and-robbers-police-say](https://www.therecordherald.com/news/20200709/boy-gets-loaded-gun-from-couch-kills-little-brother-during-cops-and-robbers-police-say)

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> A game of “cops and robbers” turned deadly Wednesday morning when a 13-year-old boy allegedly pulled a loaded gun from a living-room couch and shot his younger brother in the head in their Waynesboro home.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9271 "2020-07-25T21:16:29Z")

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[Three injured in shooting as rival armed militias converge on Louisville](https://www.thedailybeast.com/shots-fired-as-three-percenter-and-not-fucking-around-coalition-militias-face-off-in-louisville-kentucky)

> Louisville police confirmed three people were injured due to the “discharge of someone’s gun” as members of the “Not Fucking Around Coalition,” an all-Black militia, gathered in Baxter Park shortly before 1 p.m.
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> The “Three Percenter” far-right militia group also called on members to be present on Saturday to act as an ad-hoc security force during the rally. The group is known for its support of gun rights and opposition to government “tyranny,” and for its presence at white supremacist rallies like Unite the Right in Charlottesville.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [July 25, 2020, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9272 "2020-07-25T21:24:16Z")

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> The group is known for its support of gun rights and opposition to government “tyranny,”

You’d think that they would be against police brutality, but you’d be wrong.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9273 "2020-07-26T14:02:43Z")

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> **[Police: Man upset at doctor appointment kills office worker](https://apnews.com/491cecaa3f80c1eded02cbddd910a90c)**
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> MOUNT LAUREL, N.J. (AP) — A man upset about his father's urology appointment pulled out a gun and shot and killed an office employee who tried to discuss the situation with him Friday afternoon in New Jersey, police said.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2020, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9274 "2020-07-30T23:59:46Z")

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He was just standing his ground/afraid for his life/not a good gun owner/the whole thing is made up.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2020, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9275 "2020-08-04T02:16:12Z")

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[Some lunatic, er, proud gun owner decided to shoot at Provo Missionary Training Center security booth](https://www.ldsliving.com/No-injuries-reported-after-shots-fired-at-Provo-Missionary-Training-Center-security-booth/s/93194?utm_source=ldsliving&utm_medium=email). Luckily nobody was injured or killed.

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**Author:** ![Borborygmi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/borborygmi/32/217_2.png) [@Borborygmi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Borborygmi)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2020, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9276 "2020-08-14T19:19:04Z")

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Is this the right thread for this? I am thinking this is the right thread for this.

> **[Gun Nut Blows Own Nuts Off, Is Hailed As Hero By Group Of Men Who Point Guns...](https://www.wonkette.com/gun-nut-blows-own-nuts-off-is-hailed-as-hero-by-fellow-gun-nuts)**
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> Well that tracks.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2020, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9277 "2020-08-14T19:31:50Z")

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Defensive Gun Use. Now he can’t procreate. This should be in the Happy Fuzzy Guns R Fun Club Thread.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2020, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9278 "2020-08-18T00:15:58Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> An employee [opened fire at](https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-california-shooting-walmart/shooting-at-california-walmart-distribution-center-leaves-two-dead-four-injured-idUSKBN23Z08S) a Walmart distribution center, killing 2, injuring 4.
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> Guns make people stupid.

I thinks its more that guns make stupid people news worthy (and dangerous).

Smart person with gun, sits and home with gun locked up and no one cares.  
Stupid person without gun, sits and home and does stupid things that nobody notices.  
Stupid person with gun makes headlines.

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**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2020, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9279 "2020-09-28T02:45:50Z")

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[Oregon man shoots self in groin while showing off gun in supermarket checkout line, cops say](https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2020/09/oregon-man-shoots-self-in-groin-while-showing-off-gun-in-supermarket-checkout-line-cops-say.html)

> Investigators said the 29-year-old man was waiting in the checkout line, when he unholstered his Glock 9mm semi-automatic pistol from his waistband “so that he could show it off to a friend.”
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> As the man put the gun back in the front of his pants, he accidentally pulled the trigger, according to police.

Moron. Article doesn’t specify whether he rendered himself unable to reproduce, but one can only hope.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2020, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9280 "2020-10-12T01:27:39Z")

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Oregon boy, 3, dies after finding gun, accidentally shooting self in head.

> **[3-year-old boy dies after finding a gun, accidentally shooting himself in the...](https://www.today.com/parents/oregon-boy-3-dies-after-finding-gun-accidentally-shooting-self-t193963)**
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> The boy found the gun in a bedside table.

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**Author:** ![CookingWithGas](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cookingwithgas/32/485_2.png) [@CookingWithGas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CookingWithGas)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2020, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9281 "2020-10-13T19:28:09Z")

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**[Idaho man arrested](https://percolately.com/idaho-man-pulls-gun-kids/?fbclid=IwAR1AxHodb5nC6307yRxMSkN0JT4k83bm6LgaLqXEPLOggRlaxYmA0JXz3YY)** for assault after brandishing a handgun in a haunted house. Thank goodness nobody was harmed in this exercise of 2A rights. Idaho permits open carry and concealed carry without a permit. Unable to determine if his possession of the gun was legal.

This is what happens when anybody can carry a gun–you get angry drunks walking around with guns.

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**Author:** ![mikecurtis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikecurtis/32/3284_2.png) [@mikecurtis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikecurtis)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2020, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9282 "2020-10-13T21:30:26Z")

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If you watch the video of the situation, the guy is surprisingly, not the complete idiot you’d think from the headline. Yeah, he pulled a gun on a bunch of kids, which is stupid, but it was the kids who were being the assholes up to that point. It’s easy to see how this guy might have felt overrun by the situation.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m against people carrying guns in public. And if you can’t handle having a bunch of teenagers yelling at you, you probably shouldn’t have a gun at all.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2020, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9283 "2020-10-13T23:54:01Z")

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Yeah, “They were assholes!” ain’t a legal reason to pull a gun on a bunch of kids . . . at least it wasn’t.

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