# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 29, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729 "2013-01-29T19:01:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 465
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2020, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9284 "2020-10-14T14:52:45Z")
> [@mikecurtis](#): > > If you watch the video of the situation, the guy is surprisingly, not the complete idiot you’d think from the headline. This is the headline: Drunk Idaho Trump Supporter Arrested After Pulling Gun On Kids In Haunted House During Argument That’s exactly what happened and, yes, he was a complete idiot. Drunk morons shouldn’t be pulling guns on people for arguing. I’m guessing he will be a celebrity at the next Trump rally, along with the McCloskeys and Rittenhouse. ---
**Author:** ![bumble\_ardee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9fc348/32.png) [@bumble\_ardee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bumble_ardee)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2020, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9285 "2020-10-19T04:37:41Z")
I won’t make a mistake with looters and rioters tearing up my flower patch up front. A Springfield M1A SOCOM with lots of spare clips makes me sleep easy. And no, stupid, useless people who don’t know just how serious trespassing could be shouldn’t feel safe. ---
**Author:** ![CookingWithGas](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cookingwithgas/32/485_2.png) [@CookingWithGas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CookingWithGas)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2020, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9286 "2020-10-19T15:25:40Z")
> [@bumble\_ardee](#): > > I won’t make a mistake Said every gun owner who ever made a mistake. ---
**Author:** ![bumble\_ardee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9fc348/32.png) [@bumble\_ardee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bumble_ardee)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2020, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9287 "2020-10-19T23:52:12Z")
Everyone for that matter. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9288 "2020-10-20T14:01:22Z")
So, you are saying that you would shoot someone for turning around in your driveway? You are a responsible gun owner’s worst nightmare, as it is people like you that make them look bad, and make people think that maybe we should have tighter restrictions on who we allow to possess lethal weaponry. ---
**Author:** ![CookingWithGas](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cookingwithgas/32/485_2.png) [@CookingWithGas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CookingWithGas)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9289 "2020-10-20T14:29:10Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > So, you are saying that you would shoot someone for turning around in your driveway? I don’t think he said that at all. I’m not sure why he brought up looters and rioters when the news item at hand was a about a drunk guy in a haunted house, but he specifically referred to property damage. Now, whether trespassing on its face justifies lethal force is a different question, and probably varies by jurisdiction. Although tearing up my flower patch is certainly illegal, it is not quite home invasion and does not _per se_ pose a threat to my safety. A couple of drunk teenagers who live down the street who wander into my yard do not deserve to die. I’m not sure how you tell the difference between them and “looters and rioters.” ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9290 "2020-10-20T14:37:20Z")
Our friend was replying to this post > [@Ionizer](#): > > [Here’s one I came across earlier.](http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/warrant-23-year-old-man-fatally-shot-while-driving/nT8rm/) Man kills a 22yr-old guy who pulled into wrong driveway. Killed him as he was trying to get the fuck out of the driveway, too. Of course, his ‘defense’ is he thought his home was being invaded, so he goes OUTSIDE to shoot him. After he fired a stray round into the air, and maybe injuring someone else in his masculine fantasy world. God Bless America! Right? > > The homeowner is a chickenshit who should shoot one more round - into his own head, of course. That would be the smartest thing possible for such proud-to-own-gun persons. I bet he lacks the moral courage to self-enforce his own death penalty. > > Anyone want to show how much safer we all are with such upstanding citizens ready to murder anyone crossing into their fantasy lands? I’d say @k9bfriender’s assessment was accurate. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9291 "2020-10-20T14:39:35Z")
I don’t know why he brought up looters and rioters when the story he was replying to was about a person who was shot for accidently pulling into the wrong driveway. He did seem to be in agreement with the act though. All tough guy about “trespassing”. ETA: Ninja’d by @74westy ---
**Author:** ![CookingWithGas](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cookingwithgas/32/485_2.png) [@CookingWithGas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CookingWithGas)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9292 "2020-10-20T17:15:01Z")
> [@74westy](#): > > Our friend was replying to this post Sorry, I got my threads-within-the-thread crossed. ---
**Author:** ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9293 "2020-10-20T17:52:08Z")
In fairness, @bumble_ardee was replying to a post from 2013. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2020, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9294 "2020-10-20T23:01:02Z")
And he joined 4 days ago. \< Quirrel\> Troll! In the dungeons! Thought you ought to know. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 10:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9295 "2020-10-25T10:12:11Z")
Three-year old accidentally exercises 2nd Amendment rights at party. > **[3-year-old boy dead after he accidentally shoots himself in the chest during...](https://www.click2houston.com/news/local/2020/10/25/3-year-old-boy-dead-after-he-accidentally-shoots-himself-in-the-chest-during-birthday-party/)** > > A three-year-old boy died after he accidentally shot himself in the chest Saturday afternoon during a child’s birthday party in Porter, according to Montgomery County Sheriff’s Office. ---
**Author:** ![CookingWithGas](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cookingwithgas/32/485_2.png) [@CookingWithGas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CookingWithGas)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9296 "2020-10-25T14:49:16Z")
Stupid but also incredibly tragic. No doubt the gun owner was “responsible” and “would never make that mistake.” ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9297 "2020-10-25T15:14:42Z")
They are so paranoid now that they have to bring their gun to a children’s birthday party? Well, okay, I suppose maybe they were afraid there would be a clown. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9298 "2020-10-25T20:15:41Z")
“Accidentally”? Yeah, I think that is not the right word to use there. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9299 "2020-10-25T20:31:12Z")
intentionally? ---
**Author:** ![CookingWithGas](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cookingwithgas/32/485_2.png) [@CookingWithGas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CookingWithGas)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9300 "2020-10-25T20:50:39Z")
No, but is it an “accident” if a preventable tragedy it is caused by gross negligence? ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9301 "2020-10-25T21:01:35Z")
For the kid, it was an accident. For the adult that brought a gun to a children’s birthday party, and then failed to keep it secured upon his person, I would consider to be criminal negligence. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9302 "2020-10-25T21:16:01Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > For the kid, it was an accident. My contention is that “accident” is really only applicable is one knows how to not have an unfortunate incident. The child did not know how to handle a gun, and the owner failed to maintain it in a safe condition (e.g., not unloaded, or not unable to discharge unintentionally). Negligence/carelessness should not be described in terms of an “accident” when are is clearly inviting bad things to happen by being stupid (see thread title). ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2020, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9303 "2020-10-25T21:43:20Z")
The phrase accidentally exercised his 2nd amendment rights is obviously sardonic. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729.md?page=464) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729.md?page=466)