# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 29, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729 "2013-01-29T19:01:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 472
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2021, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9426 "2021-04-11T11:39:27Z")
In Hawaii, and armed man has barricaded himself into his hotel room and has fired five shots so far. This is still on going. > **[Hotel gunman dead from self-inflicted gunshot wound: Police](https://abcnews.go.com/US/police-negotiators-scene-hotel-reports-barricaded-gunman-gunshots/story?id=77003005)** > > A man who barricaded himself in a Honolulu hotel room after allegedly firing multiple shots has died by a self-inflicted gunshot wound, officials said. (HI is possibly THE hardest state in America to even get a handgun… and you can’t just drive them in from a red state. Planes won’t let you on with them. How did he even get one? ) ---
**Author:** ![CookingWithGas](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cookingwithgas/32/485_2.png) [@CookingWithGas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CookingWithGas)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2021, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9427 "2021-04-11T12:43:45Z")
> [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](#): > > Planes won’t let you on with them. You may transport unloaded firearms in checked baggage. It is not illegal to bring a gun into Hawaii but you must register it with local police within five days of arrival. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2021, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9428 "2021-04-11T15:39:35Z")
> [@PastTense](#): > > Three year boy kills 8 month old brother in Houston: > > Police believe an infant was fatally shot Friday by his 3-year-old brother after the older boy got a hold of a gun inside a Houston apartment. > > Is this the youngest mentioned previously here? I remember previous discussions about 4 year old killers He was just standing his ground. That 8 month old was coming right for him! ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2021, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9429 "2021-04-13T01:08:12Z")
Woman goes into store, [9-year-old left in the car finds a gun](https://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/2021/04/11/9-year-old-suspected-in-fatal-shooting-of-11-year-old-boy-inside-car-in-pleasant-grove-dallas-police-say/), shoots 11-year-old also in the car. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2021, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9430 "2021-04-13T02:02:40Z")
> [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](#): > > In Hawaii, and armed man has barricaded himself into his hotel room and has fired five shots so far. This is still on going. Over now. Suicide is third tied to isle’s submarine force A Pacific Fleet sailor barricades himself at the Kahala Hotel before taking his own life By Allison Schaefers [aschaefers@staradvertiser.com](mailto:aschaefers@staradvertiser.com) The death of a sailor of a self-inflicted gunshot after a barricade situation at the The Kahala Hotel & Resort was the third tied to Hawaii’s submarine force in the past 16 months. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2021, 10:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9431 "2021-04-17T10:52:12Z")
Florida Man cleaning his gun in his house kills his neighbor in her house. > **[Fla. Mom of 4 Is Accidentally Killed by Her Neighbor, Whose Gun Discharged...](https://people.com/crime/florida-mom-accidentally-killed-by-neighbor-gun-discharged-cleaning/)** > > Jennifer Edelen's child called 911, thinking the gunshot was thunder and lightning ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2021, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9432 "2021-04-17T15:14:12Z")
I’m sure he’s a good christian man, who has been punished enough by this tragedy that he should face no other outcome. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2021, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9433 "2021-04-17T15:23:38Z")
For anyone who thinks that parents leaving unsecure guns around is only a threat to their _own_ children. > **[11-Year-Old Shot, Killed After Kids Find Gun in Car Parked at Walmart](https://www.newsweek.com/11-year-old-shot-killed-after-kids-find-unattended-gun-left-car-walmart-parking-lot-1583372)** > > "The youngest brother I guess ended up getting it off the safety and shot my child in his head," Keyamber Matlock, the mother of the victim, said. But, I’m sure that she has been punished enough by this tragedy. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2021, 9:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9434 "2021-04-19T09:03:21Z")
Some gallows humor for those reading this thread: > **[‘Oh God What Happened Now,’ Mumbles Congressperson After Seeing Massive NRA...](https://www.theonion.com/oh-god-what-happened-now-mumbles-congressperson-afte-1846691224)** > > WASHINGTON—Unable to help himself from fearing the worst, Rep. French Hill (R-AR) reportedly mumbled, “Oh God, what happened now,” Friday after seeing he had received a massive donation from the NRA. “Jeez, that’s a lot of money, it’s got to be... ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2021, 11:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9435 "2021-04-19T11:22:30Z")
Six children shot at a birthday party. The shooter was another child. > **['They were all kids' Six wounded at 12-year-old's birthday party](https://www.wwltv.com/article/news/local/mass-shooting-wounds-6-during-12-year-old-childs-birthday-party-deputies-say/289-a1c87b79-e9bc-42c3-80ff-b33e1abf0b50)** > > "Most of the injuries were non-life-threatening, but I know two or three people did leave on a stretcher," Bolden said. "I think everybody made it to this point." ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2021, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9436 "2021-04-19T11:34:13Z")
That’s even more disturbing in the context of the previous post. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2021, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9437 "2021-04-19T14:01:34Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Florida Man cleaning his gun in his house kills his neighbor in her house. “I was cleaning it and it went off” is not just a stupid explanation (because it means stupid gun handling), it is such an old and tired one he should be embarrassed to use it. ---
**Author:** ![CookingWithGas](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cookingwithgas/32/485_2.png) [@CookingWithGas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CookingWithGas)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2021, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9438 "2021-04-19T14:14:43Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > “I was cleaning it and it went off” is not just a stupid explanation Every gun owner is a responsible gun owner, until they’re not. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2021, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9439 "2021-04-19T17:37:53Z")
You know very well you cannot clean a gun without it has a chambered round. Especially the part where you do the barrel. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2021, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9440 "2021-04-19T17:54:00Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > > [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > > > Florida Man cleaning his gun in his house kills his neighbor in her house. > > “I was cleaning it and it went off” is not just a stupid explanation (because it means stupid gun handling), it is such an old and tired one he should be embarrassed to use it. - Much like sheep are startled by the rising sun and all the green stuff around them, everything is new to Florida Man. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2021, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9441 "2021-04-19T20:04:36Z")
Only wimps clean a gun with the chamber empty. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2021, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9442 "2021-04-19T20:12:17Z")
Given how frequently it is cited, it does raise the question of whether that is actually what happened or whether its the go to excuse to cover up something even more stupid and reckless . (i.e. they were “cleaning” the gun by throwing it up in the air and trying to catch it by the trigger.) ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2021, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9443 "2021-04-19T21:07:27Z")
Perhaps they’re “cleaning” it by using a bullet to blow the dirt out of the barrel? ---
**Author:** ![LurkMeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3da27b/32.png) [@LurkMeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkMeister)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2021, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9444 "2021-04-20T01:10:34Z")
Isn’t that the first step in cleaning a gun? ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2021, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9445 "2021-04-20T02:03:43Z")
I think we need a new regulation: a legal firearm cannot have a built-in trigger. The owner can keep the trigger piece on a bracelet, so they do not have to go searching for it. To put it in, one would have to insert the top bar, swing the trigger piece up into its channel and slide it forward about 4mm until the upper tab goes into the keyway. This could be done in about half a second, since there would be no trigger guard, and the piece would fall out if not being held in place. It could be held in the channel without being set in the keyway, so one could hold the gun ready without having a finger on the trigger, since that last move is required for shooting. This would force a person to engage their brain somewhat rather than just grabbing a gun and shooting. And children would have a harder time shooting a gun if the adult owner keeps the trigger on themself. Ammosexuals would most likely cry havoc, but they would probably not get much traction. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729.md?page=471) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729.md?page=473)