# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 29, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729 "2013-01-29T19:01:55Z")\
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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2021, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9566 "2021-06-18T04:31:48Z")

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> **[1 dead, 12 injured in series of drive-by shootings in Arizona; suspect in...](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/least-9-injured-series-drive-shootings-arizona-suspect-custody-n1271259)**
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> At least one person was killed in at least eight shootings northwest of Phoenix.

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2021, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9567 "2021-06-20T21:36:37Z")

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Florida Man pulls a gun on a Starbuck’s employee because they forgot cream cheese on his bagel (BTW, the employee is the daughter of a cop)

> **[Florida Man Pulls Gun on Police Chief’s Daughter for Forgetting Cream Cheese...](https://www.thedailybeast.com/florida-man-pulls-gun-on-police-chiefs-daughter-for-forgetting-cream-cheese-on-his-bagel)**
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> Omar Wright flashed a gun in the Starbucks drive-thru because his bagel didn’t come with cream cheese.

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**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\
**Post date:** [June 20, 2021, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9568 "2021-06-20T23:12:40Z")

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Just noticed the latest Positive Gun News posts, and they’re sadder than this thread. Sad.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2021, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9569 "2021-06-21T14:53:12Z")

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Looks like MEBuckner went on vacation. 17h since a stupid gun news post and he hasn’t yet countered with a thrilling tale of a good guy with a gun killing someone that justifiably deserves it. I fear stupid gun news might get a lead too large to overcome. Come on MEBuck…you can do it!!!

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2021, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9570 "2021-06-22T03:21:03Z")

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Stroke your metal Bone, MEB.

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**Author:** ![LurkMeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3da27b/32.png) [@LurkMeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkMeister)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2021, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9571 "2021-06-22T17:23:12Z")

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Anyone who pulls a gun on another person for frivolous reasons (like not putting cream cheese on their bagel) should have all their guns confiscated and banned from ever owning a gun for life. And I’d love to hear the NRA protesting this law while trying to claim they support “responsible gun ownership”.

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**Author:** ![mikecurtis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikecurtis/32/3284_2.png) [@mikecurtis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikecurtis)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2021, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9572 "2021-06-22T18:47:06Z")

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Ya mean like shooting a neighbor over grass clippings?

[https://www.kmov.com/news/man-shot-in-the-chest-killed-over-grass-clippings-dispute-in-st-louis-county/article\_9af57348-c8c6-11eb-88da-03b63b8337ee.html](https://www.kmov.com/news/man-shot-in-the-chest-killed-over-grass-clippings-dispute-in-st-louis-county/article_9af57348-c8c6-11eb-88da-03b63b8337ee.html)

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2021, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9573 "2021-06-24T15:39:00Z")

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[Former NRA president David Keene invited down to LV to give graduation speech](https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/amberjamieson/nra-president-graduation-speech) to three thousand chairs representing the students who would not be graduating this year due to gun violence.

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**Author:** ![CookingWithGas](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cookingwithgas/32/485_2.png) [@CookingWithGas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CookingWithGas)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2021, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9574 "2021-06-24T19:49:57Z")

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Nothing stupid about that except the NRA.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2021, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9575 "2021-06-24T20:03:36Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Florida Man pulls a gun on a Starbuck’s employee because they forgot cream cheese on his bagel (BTW, the employee is the daughter of a cop)

He’s [Black,](https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/miami-gardens-police-chiefs-daughter-threatened-with-gun-at-starbucks-cops/2475994/) in Florida, and likes to wave his gun around? How’d he make it to 38?

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2021, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9576 "2021-06-24T20:21:38Z")

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It was a gun, not a phone.

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**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2021, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9577 "2021-06-25T02:15:02Z")

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Not sure if this goes in this thread or the good news thread.

A good Samaritan who was carrying a concealed weapon heard a cop get killed outside the store he was shopping in. He drew his weapon and ran out of the store towards the shooter. He was later killed by police who said that he saved many lives. It is not clear if the civilian killed the shooter or not but it has now come out that the police killed him.

> **[“Good Samaritan” in Olde Town Arvada shooting was killed by police, source says](https://www.denverpost.com/2021/06/24/johnny-hurley-arvada-police-shooting/)**
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> The “good Samaritan” credited by police with saving lives by intervening with an active shooter in Olde Town Arvada this week was shot and killed by an Arvada police officer, a source f…

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2021, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9578 "2021-06-25T02:34:54Z")

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> [@Oredigger77](#):
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> Not sure if this goes in this thread or the good news thread.

A rare two-fer - by the rules of the ‘good news’ thread (and assuming the civilian killed the cop killer), definitely belongs there.

And of course the oft-mentioned “one good guy (or cop) with a gun not knowing the other guy with a gun was also a good guy so he shoots him” has now actually occurred.

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2021, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9579 "2021-06-25T03:20:19Z")

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Top Belize police official helps socialite friend learn how to use a gun.

> **[Jasmine Hartin says Henry Jemmott was showing her how to use his gun](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9721293/Jasmine-Hartin-breaks-silence-reveals-Henry-Jemmott-protecting-her.html)**
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> In her exclusive first interview, Jasmine Hartin, 32, says days before the shooting, she confided in Henry Jemmott after she was slammed into a wall and sexually assaulted at a party.

Police official now dead.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2021, 10:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9580 "2021-06-25T10:43:39Z")

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> [@Oredigger77](#):
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> A good Samaritan who was carrying a concealed weapon heard a cop get killed outside the store he was shopping in. He drew his weapon and ran out of the store towards the shooter. He was later killed by police who said that he saved many lives. It is not clear if the civilian killed the shooter or not but it has now come out that the police killed him.

That’s fucking tragic.

Also, the next time we are told this sort of thing doesn’t happen, we now know it kind of does.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2021, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9581 "2021-06-25T11:28:58Z")

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From the other thread:

> [@Positive Gun News of the Day](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/positive-gun-news-of-the-day/735490/1882):
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> You really shouldn’t be firing “warning shots”, although in this case it seems to have worked out OK.

You really shouldn’t be firing deadly weapons blindly, with no knowledge of who you might hit when the bullet comes back down - but if you really made that burglar shit himself, I guess it was worth it…

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> And, as the homeowner points out, a lot of people in that part of the world would have just shot someone who had broken into their home in the middle of the night.

“Hey, I could have just murdered the guy in cold blood and nobody could have proved that it WASN’T self defense, what are you complaining about?”

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2021, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9582 "2021-06-25T13:51:38Z")

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At this point that thread is basically one poster’s blog. But it makes him happy, I guess.

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**Author:** ![CookingWithGas](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cookingwithgas/32/485_2.png) [@CookingWithGas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CookingWithGas)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2021, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9583 "2021-06-25T14:04:45Z")

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> [@Folacin](#):
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> And of course the oft-mentioned “one good guy (or cop) with a gun not knowing the other guy with a gun was also a good guy so he shoots him” has now actually occurred.

Not the first time. Here are two that I was immediately aware of. I’m sure there are many more.

> **[Killing of Jemel Roberson](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Jemel_Roberson)**
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> On November 11, 2018, Jemel Roberson, a 26-year-old security guard for Manny's Blue Room Bar in Robbins, Illinois, was fatally shot by Ian Covey, a Midlothian police officer responding to a call of shots fired at the bar. Roberson, an African American, was working for the bar as a security guard when four people were shot by a gunman. After Roberson subdued and pinned the shooter to the ground, he was shot by a Midlothian police officer arriving at the scene.
> Covey was placed on paid admini...

> **[Alabama Mall Shooting Officer Won't Face Charges for Killing Wrong Man](https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/national-international/alabama-officer-wont-face-charges-in-fatal-mall-shooting-ej-bradford/14015/)**
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> An Alabama police officer will not face charges for killing a man he mistook for the gunman in a mall shooting, the state’s attorney general announced Tuesday, drawing outrage from the slain man’s family who said the officer jumped to conclusions...

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2021, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9584 "2021-06-25T14:17:40Z")

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But this time it was a white guy (and I wouldn’t be surprised if he isn’t the first but seems worth noting).

What we need now is for one non-LEO good guy with a gun to shoot another non-LEO good guy with gun. That one will be hard to spin into the “Positive Gun News” thread.

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2021, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9585 "2021-06-25T15:06:46Z")

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> [@CookingWithGas](#):
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> Not the first time. Here are two that I was immediately aware of. I’m sure there are many more.

Actually a better example is Jacai Colson, an undercover police officer:

> "According to the lawsuit filed Monday, Krauss shot Colson after Ford was taken into custody. The plaintiffs say Colson held his badge and verbally identified himself as an officer. "As he’s screaming “Police! Police!” Officer Krauss fires from a football field away at a person that he cannot identify… The lawsuit asserts Krauss should have recognized Colson, as they were assigned to the same division and sat at connecting desks.

> **[Family Sues Prince George's County Officer Who Fatally Shot Undercover...](https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/family-sues-officer-who-fatally-shot-undercover-detective-jacai-colson-during-shootout/149756/)**
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> The family of a black undercover detective fatally shot by a white officer during a shootout in Maryland in 2016 has filed a wrongful-death lawsuit.

Naturally the police officer Krauss is still on the police force while the guy who was shooting at the police station (and didn’t injure anyone) got 195 years…

> **[Michael Ford Sentenced to 195 Years in Prince George's Police Detective Jacai...](https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/sentencing-in-prince-georges-police-detective-jacai-colsons-death/443/)**
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> A man convicted in the attack on a Maryland police station in which an undercover narcotics detective was mistakenly shot and killed was sentenced to 195 years, but the slain detective’s family is lashing out, saying the officer who shot the...

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