# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 29, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729 "2013-01-29T19:01:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2021, 10:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9747 "2021-10-04T10:30:03Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> Given the reported facts of this case, will the presentation of evidence entail displaying this guy to the jury in his nice well-tailored birthday suit?

Yeah, there’s just no getting around that video. Kids, that man is a professional. Please don’t try to  
use rifles as sex toys at home.

> [@The\_Librarian](#):
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> You misspelled “human”.

You might be right about that; I was just trying to emphasize the 300 yards part and that Fort Lee has an extensive number of multi-million dollar high-rise condo buildings, all built in a line to try to showcase/ capitalize on the view of the NY skyline along the Hudson from the NJ side.  
Anyway, I’ve never liked AR/AKs. I won’t waste breath defending them.

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**Author:** ![mistymage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mistymage/32/459_2.png) [@mistymage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mistymage)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2021, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9748 "2021-10-08T17:11:39Z")

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I’m not happy about once again a gun is used to … whatever\*… at a school but I’m hoping someone can parse this quote for me from Foxnews:

"Arlington Police Department Assistant Chief Kevin Kolbye said weapons were found during a search of the Simpkins family home, including the one believed to have been used in Wednesday’s shooting. He said a weapon found on the street in Grand Prairie, Texas has been linked to the suspected handgun. "

> **[Timberview High School shooting suspect's family say he was bullied: 'Trying...](https://www.foxnews.com/us/texas-high-school-shooting-suspect-bullied)**
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> The family of Timothy Simpkins, 18, told reporters outside their home in Arlington that he was bullied at school for wearing nice clothes and driving a nice car.

\*seek justice, be the big guy, or be a hero but not in this case

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2021, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9749 "2021-10-08T17:41:40Z")

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> [@mistymage](#):
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> > [@Fox](#):
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> > "Arlington Police Department Assistant Chief Kevin Kolbye said weapons were found during a search of the Simpkins family home, including the one believed to have been used in Wednesday’s shooting. He said a weapon found on the street in Grand Prairie, Texas has been linked to the suspected handgun. "

Here, from [NBC:](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/police-investigating-shooting-arlington-texas-high-school-multiple-people-shot-n1280920)

> A .45 caliber handgun was found in the streets of nearby Grand Prairie that police believe could be the gun used in the shooting.

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**Author:** ![mistymage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mistymage/32/459_2.png) [@mistymage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mistymage)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2021, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9750 "2021-10-08T18:49:42Z")

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That’s why I am confused. Was the one used in the shooting found in the house or in the streets?

And what does this mean: “a weapon found on the street” what could it be to be linked to the gun?

Seriously, other than a holster… which wouldn’t be a weapon… what was found on the street?

Or what did they find in the house?

Are they saying the kid used 2 guns or what?

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2021, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9751 "2021-10-08T18:57:42Z")

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Seems to me that they’re saying he may have used a gun found in the house or the gun found in Grand Prairie and don’t yet know for sure. Or maybe Fox mangled the statement and the gun found in Grand Prairie _was_ the gun used.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2021, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9752 "2021-10-10T18:21:13Z")

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This short video requires no commentary:

[https://twitter.com/WUTangKids/status/1447247116171153418?t=YQ78OJo9LsqkYkfmHTLNiQ&s=19](https://twitter.com/WUTangKids/status/1447247116171153418?t=YQ78OJo9LsqkYkfmHTLNiQ&s=19)

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2021, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9753 "2021-10-10T18:47:29Z")

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find it on r/BetterEveryLoop?

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2021, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9754 "2021-10-10T19:39:57Z")

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Lots of brains there.

Lots.

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2021, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9755 "2021-10-13T16:34:36Z")

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More evidence we need to get tough on juveniles committing murder: a two year old toddler fatally shot his mother Shamaya Lynn, but he wasn’t charged with anything:

[https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/crime/os-ne-shamaya-lynn-case-arrest-20211012-2folsdy2lffufdkeunam2uheri-story.html](https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/crime/os-ne-shamaya-lynn-case-arrest-20211012-2folsdy2lffufdkeunam2uheri-story.html)

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2021, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9756 "2021-10-14T21:15:42Z")

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Two inches lower and there would have been lots of brains everywhere.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2021, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9757 "2021-10-14T23:39:55Z")

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Blood, sure. Brains, I’m not so sure.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9758 "2021-10-22T03:32:07Z")

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From the It Was Just a Prop department,

> **[Alec Baldwin shoots prop gun, killing 1, injuring another on set'](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/alec-baldwin-shoots-prop-gun-killing-1-injuring-another-set-n1282126)**
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> The film's director of photography, Halyna Hutchins, was killed and director Joel Souza was injured on the set in New Mexico.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9759 "2021-10-22T06:09:32Z")

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From the SYG/CastleDoctrine files, a man of Moroccan descent [apparently got lost](https://www.kvue.com/article/news/local/loved-ones-call-for-investigation-after-moroccan-man-shot-killed-in-caldwell-county/269-3e53deee-a85c-453e-b8aa-20999144b90b), pulled over and tried to get his nav system working when a resident who lived nearby approached the car, “confronted” the man (I would guess he politely asked “What the fuck you doin’ here, boy?”), and, unsatisfied with the response, fired through the closed window. The Moroccan man did not make it home that evening.

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 9:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9760 "2021-10-22T09:45:51Z")

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Holy Sh-t…! This is a tragedy (and obviously an accident). I thought that I read that prop guns for any movie set have to be under the control and constant supervision of a very specialized, very regulated, highly trained, certified/licensed ‘weapons master’. Things got a little lax in the 90s and that’s when Brandon Lee died when an obstruction in a barrel was blown through the barrel by the discharge of a blank… but after that scrutiny was supposed to be meticulous.

I had ‘heard’ ( ie someone mentioned it IRL to me and I can’t find an article to cite… but…) that at the start and at the end of scenes where any weapons are fired, each weapon used was supposed to be cleaned and verified to be fully safe, operational, and clean (barrels inspected and verified to be obstruction free) and that no live non-blank ammo was allowed to be present on the set for any reason.

Obviously the person who told me that was wrong because how could this ever happen again if that was actually the case?

Alec Baldwin must have been on his knees throwing up on the ground afterward…

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**Author:** ![CookingWithGas](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cookingwithgas/32/485_2.png) [@CookingWithGas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CookingWithGas)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9761 "2021-10-22T13:52:37Z")

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> [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](#):
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> I can’t find an article to cite

The article linked above actually says that this is the protocol, and there will be an investigation to see if protocol was followed.

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9762 "2021-10-22T15:17:58Z")

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> [@CookingWithGas](#):
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> The article linked above actually says that this is the protocol, and there will be an investigation to see if protocol was followed.

I’m sorry. I stopped reading when I got to the ‘condolences’ part because it was just too tragic. Still, it begs the question: are corners being cut on safety on sets again? Are actors / crew safe on sets where the production requires that guns be fired?

It’s all dress-up, fun, and games until someone gets blown away by a prop gun that’s supposed to be ‘safe’.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2021, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9763 "2021-10-22T21:32:09Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> From the SYG/CastleDoctrine files, a man of Moroccan descent [apparently got lost](https://www.kvue.com/article/news/local/loved-ones-call-for-investigation-after-moroccan-man-shot-killed-in-caldwell-county/269-3e53deee-a85c-453e-b8aa-20999144b90b), pulled over and tried to get his nav system working when a resident who lived nearby approached the car, “confronted” the man (I would guess he politely asked “What the fuck you doin’ here, boy?”), and, unsatisfied with the response, fired through the closed window.

The shooter has been arrested.

> **[A Man Accused Of Killing A 31-Year-Old Sitting In A Car In Front Of His Home...](https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/salvadorhernandez/adil-dghoughi-killing-man-arrested-texas)**
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> Terry Turner was booked on suspicion of murder in the killing of Adil Dghoughi outside his home in a small Texas town outside of Austin.

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**Author:** ![CookingWithGas](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cookingwithgas/32/485_2.png) [@CookingWithGas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CookingWithGas)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2021, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9764 "2021-11-05T19:16:55Z")

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[**Belief in supernatural evil is a strong predictor of pro-gun beliefs**](https://www.economist.com/united-states/2021/11/06/belief-in-supernatural-evil-is-a-strong-predictor-of-pro-gun-beliefs)

Article from the Economist. Paywalled, but here is the gist:

> A survey of 1,572 American adults found that, apart from religious denomination or religious conservatism, belief in the devil, demons and hell is a strong predictor of eight pro-gun beliefs, including arming teachers, carrying concealed firearms and bearing high-capacity defensive weapons. A Catholic who believes in supernatural evil is more likely to hold pro-gun views than a Protestant who does not believe that Satan is corrupting souls, and vice versa.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2021, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9765 "2021-11-22T03:18:53Z")

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Airport patron reaches into his carry on and discharges a hand gun in the TSA inspection line:

> **[Chaos at Atlanta airport after passenger accidentally fires gun](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/nov/21/atlanta-airport-passenger-accidentally-fires-gun)**
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> Man escaped out an airport exit after firearm went off when he reached in his bag while awaiting a search and grabbed it

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2021, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9766 "2021-11-22T06:47:50Z")

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[According to AP](https://apnews.com/article/business-media-atlanta-ae3562fb5685199c3f572c122e24bcef), the TSA had confiscated almost 4500 firearms at airport security as of October 3rd. That is a great big helping of stupid we have in the US, that so many people would think of trying to get a gun onto a plane.

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