# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 29, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729 "2013-01-29T19:01:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 489
**Author:** ![CookingWithGas](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cookingwithgas/32/485_2.png) [@CookingWithGas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CookingWithGas)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2021, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9767 "2021-11-22T16:38:42Z")
I wish the media would not refer to “accidental” discharges and instead call it what it is: “the man fired the gun unintentionally because he was too careless and incompetent to handle firearms.” ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2021, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9768 "2021-11-22T18:28:23Z")
Honestly, this is a crappy study, or perhaps a crappy interpretation of a not particularly surprising study result. Anyone who is remotely politically savvy realizes that the is a cluster of political and cultural attituds centered around right wing view point. Any two of these views are going to be highly correlated. So pro-gun is going to be associated with pro Trump, pro life, anti taxes, rural, anti-vaccine, and fundamentalist Christian belief. Picking any two of these out, you will find a strong correlation but this does not imply that people are pro-gun because of their religious belief. You may as well say that the are pro gun because they need to defend themselves from the government tax man, or they are pro gun because they misunderstand risk assessment as seen by their vaccine refusal. Looking at this guy’s [CV](https://www.pubfacts.com/author/Benjamin+Dowd-Arrow), it appears he’s throwing everything but the kitchen sink at gun ownership data. Its an easy way to publish a lot of papers (just pick up a publicly available database and look for correlations) and if you pick something controversial enough you can publicity. For Example “[Sexual Dysfunction and Gun Ownership in America: When Hard Data Meet a Limp Theory](https://www.pubfacts.com/author/Benjamin+Dowd-Arrow)” (turns out there is no connection 🙁). But it’s the scientific equivalent of clickbait. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2021, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9769 "2021-11-22T18:37:35Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > [According to AP](https://apnews.com/article/business-media-atlanta-ae3562fb5685199c3f572c122e24bcef), the TSA had confiscated almost 4500 firearms at airport security as of October 3rd. That is a great big helping of stupid we have in the US, that so many people would think of trying to get a gun onto a plane. It must be snake hunting season. /s ---
**Author:** ![CookingWithGas](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cookingwithgas/32/485_2.png) [@CookingWithGas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CookingWithGas)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2021, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9770 "2021-11-22T19:47:12Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > So pro-gun is going to be associated with pro Trump, pro life, anti taxes, rural, anti-vaccine, and fundamentalist Christian belief. I once started a thread here asking about why these characteristics seemed to be correlated and I was excoriated for perpetuating stereotypes. > [@](#): > > Picking any two of these out, you will find a strong correlation but this does not imply that people are pro-gun because of their religious belief. The study does not claim cause and effect. It only claims that these beliefs are a “predictor,” which is a correlation, after controlling for “political ideology and other demographic factors.” (I did not read the original study, only this article.) So that is a stronger correlation than a right-wing cluster. (For example, the yield curve is a predictor of recessions, but it is not generally claimed that a yield curve inversion _causes_ a recession.) ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2021, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9771 "2021-11-24T01:28:40Z")
> **[Police: 6-Year-Old Shoots, Kills 5-Year-Old Sibling In Penn Hills](https://www.cbsnews.com/pittsburgh/news/child-shoots-another-child-prescott-drive-penn-hills/)** > > A 5-year-old was shot and killed by a 6-year-old in Penn Hills, police said. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2021, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9772 "2021-11-24T02:16:05Z")
Penn Hills is a tough town. Just saying. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2021, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9773 "2021-11-24T04:56:04Z")
Pregnant woman intentionally rams motorcycle with her car. Motorcyclist follows her home. She comes out with a gun and points it at motorcyclist. Motorcyclist draws his own gun and shoots her dead. > **[Pregnant Florida woman killed after hitting motorcyclist with her car: police](https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/582896-pregnant-florida-woman-killed-in-road-rage-incident-she-reportedly/)** > > A pregnant woman in Florida died after a heated and violent interaction with a motorcyclist on the road Saturday. Sara Nicole Morales allegedly intentionally hit motorcyclist Andrew Derr in he… ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2021, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9774 "2021-11-24T06:23:36Z")
Has this been posted yet? > **[2-Year-Old Fatally Shoots Father With Rifle in Accident](https://www.newsweek.com/2-year-old-fatally-shoots-father-rifle-accident-1651980)** > > Unintentional shootings by children increased during the pandemic, according to the American Academy of Pediatrics. Article includes links to several other similar articles, about young children getting their hands on guns. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2021, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9775 "2021-11-24T06:27:21Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > Article includes links to several other similar articles, about young children getting their hands on guns. We’re the dad’s toenails clean? If not, he had it coming. ---
**Author:** ![CookingWithGas](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cookingwithgas/32/485_2.png) [@CookingWithGas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CookingWithGas)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2021, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9776 "2021-11-24T17:18:31Z")
This was Florida. I presume that someone was standing their ground although I can’t quite sort out who. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2021, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9777 "2021-11-24T20:20:13Z")
Looks like everyone involved was a good guy (or gal) with a gun, so this really belongs in the positive news thread. Remember, when someone is killed, that means the gun did it’s job properly! ---
**Author:** ![The\_Librarian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_librarian/32/402_2.png) [@The\_Librarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Librarian)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2021, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9779 "2021-11-24T23:32:48Z")
If your 2 year old shoots you, it is not an accident. It just means karma works. The kid is better of without you. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2021, 10:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9780 "2021-11-25T10:13:55Z")
Man told his pizza will take 10 minutes threatens employees with an AK-47. And demands free breadsticks. > **[Man demands pizza with AK-47 after being told wait was 10 minutes, police say](https://fox8.com/news/man-demands-pizza-with-ak-47-after-being-told-wait-was-10-minutes-police-say/amp/)** > > A Tennessee man is accused of holding employees of a Little Caesar’s restaurant at gunpoint with an AK-47 after being told it would take 10 minutes to make his pizza. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2021, 10:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9781 "2021-11-25T10:35:36Z")
Wonder what kind of pizza they get in prison. ---
**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2021, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9782 "2021-11-25T12:20:04Z")
They get the 30 second microwave pizza. It’s a win for him. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2021, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9783 "2021-11-25T14:20:09Z")
He can have all the breadsticks he wants as long as he takes the food an leaves. I’d rather wake up tomorrow if it’s an option. As for him? Tomorrow always comes… ---
**Author:** ![omenran](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omenran/32/3318_2.png) [@omenran](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/omenran)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2021, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9784 "2021-11-28T00:13:37Z")
> **[Bolde - Inspired Thinking About Dating and Relationships](https://www.bolde.com/)** > > Join the conversation. > Lauren Hunter Daman, 27, is said to have accidentally fired a 9mm handgun while alone in her bedroom on November 9, according to Upson County police. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2021, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9785 "2021-11-28T01:51:45Z")
And yet another kid with a gun shoots another kid. This time it’s a 13 year old killing a five year old. > **['A Very Unfortunate Accident': 5-Year-Old Boy Killed In Brooklyn Park...](https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/1-killed-in-brooklyn-park-shooting-thanksgiving-evening/)** > > The shooting happened on the 8000 block of Florida Avenue North. Officers arrived at the scene at about 10:20 p.m. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2021, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9786 "2021-11-28T03:10:33Z")
“Ms. Daman? I’m afraid that we have bad news.” “What?” “Well, have you ever heard of the expression ‘The Old Woman in the boat’…?” “Yes.” “Well… the boat sank.” ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2021, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9787 "2021-11-29T04:53:40Z")
> **[5-year-old fatally shot by Minnesota teen making social media video on...](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2021/11/28/minnesota-shooting-teenagers-child-social-media/8787266002/)** > > A 5-year-old boy was fatally shot in Minnesota on Thanksgiving after a teen accidentally fired a gun while making a social media video, police said. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729.md?page=488) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729.md?page=490)