# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 29, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729 "2013-01-29T19:01:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 490
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2021, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9788 "2021-11-29T16:03:45Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Man told his pizza will take 10 minutes threatens employees with an AK-47 Really, man. Little Caesar’s, an AK? Doesn’t rate anything more than a .32 IMO > [@omenran](#): > > [https://www.bolde.com/webcam-model-shoots-herself-vgina-handgun/](https://www.bolde.com/webcam-model-shoots-herself-vgina-handgun/) Ok, now _ **this** _ is what I call “_stupid_” gun news. Not to minimize how life is probably going to be very, very different for her from now on, but, really… Now I am though wondering what modality of roulette _ **that** _ is called. (\*) Both these cases, I get the feeling there may have been substances involved affecting their decision making, ya know? (\*) I know, I know – 9mm so it was most likely an auto(\*\*). But humor me. ( \*\*) Key mistake, of course, violation of “never point the gun at anything you’re not willing to destroy”. But one also wonders if she just did not bother to even try to clear it, or cleared in the wrong order (which still leaves a round in the chamber), or even worse was making it an actual kink point in the video that it was loaded 😬 ) ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [November 29, 2021, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9789 "2021-11-29T17:31:42Z")
Let me see how very obscure I can get: _no, no, you were supposed to shoot the sled_. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2021, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9790 "2021-11-30T20:24:44Z")
Sigh… here we go again. > **[Authorities: Student kills 3, wounds 8 at SE Michigan school](https://www.woodtv.com/news/michigan/authorities-4-to-6-people-shot-in-se-mi-school-shooting/)** > > A teenager opened fire at a southeastern Michigan high school on Tuesday, killing three people and injuring six more, authorities said. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2021, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9791 "2021-11-30T20:42:24Z")
I’m sure @Oredigger77 would want us to remember that this type of situation wouldn’t be worth wasting one second of thought on. And @DrDeth would remind us that this is a regular occurrence in Yemen. Let me just take this opportunity to tell both of those rancid pieces of shit to go fuck themselves. ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2021, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9792 "2021-11-30T22:00:25Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > Let me just take this opportunity to tell both of those rancid pieces of shit to go fuck themselves. I’m sure you’ll cry yourself to sleep tonight. Masturbating about how sincere your tears are. I have no doubt you do so every night for every death in the world including those killed by cars, fall off ladders, or drown in swimming pools. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2021, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9793 "2021-11-30T22:02:48Z")
> [@Oredigger77](#): > > I’m sure you’ll cry yourself to sleep tonight. Masturbating about how sincere your tears are. I have no doubt you do so every night for every death in the world including those killed by cars, fall off ladders, or drown in swimming pools What the actual fuck is wrong with you? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2021, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9794 "2021-11-30T22:18:03Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > What the actual fuck is wrong with you? Wild guess: He’s a rancid piece of shit. Why would you expect anything better from him? ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2021, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9795 "2021-11-30T22:40:07Z")
The only thing that stops a bad guy with a ladder/swimming pool is a good guy with a ladder/swimming pool!? ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2021, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9796 "2021-11-30T23:58:01Z")
He doesn’t think that there enough gun deaths in the US to satisfy him. > [@America needs to address its gun hypocrisy](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/america-needs-to-address-its-gun-hypocrisy/954795/122): > > I would bet that there hasn’t been a murder or robbery with a long barreled 3 shot shotgun in several years. Personally, I’m ok around with gun deaths (non suicide division) around the [30-40k](https://www.nhtsa.gov/traffic-deaths-decreased-2018-still-36560-people-died#:~:text=36%2C560%20people%20were%20killed%20in,a%202.4%25%20decrease%20from%202017&text=The%20decrease%20in%20traffic%20deaths,VMT%20decreased%20by%20over%203%25.) per year. ETA- that’s about 3x where we are now. ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2021, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9797 "2021-12-01T00:18:40Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > He doesn’t think that there enough gun deaths in the US to satisfy him Incorrect. I’m perfectly content at the current level of death. I don’t need any more to satisfy me. If there were more deaths it wouldn’t bother me just like traffic deaths don’t bother me. That has nothing to do with my appetite for death and I would be perfectly content to have deaths go down. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2021, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9798 "2021-12-01T00:40:18Z")
> [@Oredigger77](#): > > If there were more deaths it wouldn’t bother me just like traffic deaths don’t bother me. The ratio of intentional gun homicides vastly outnumber the ratio of intentional vehicle homicides. That should give you pause. But it doesn’t, which reveals all we need to know about your character. ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2021, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9799 "2021-12-01T00:45:04Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > The ratio of intentional gun homicides vastly outnumber the ratio of intentional vehicle homicides. Huh? What ratio are you talking about? I have never heard heard of the ration of intentional gun homicides. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2021, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9800 "2021-12-01T00:57:57Z")
The ratio of intentional gun homicides to unintentional gun fatalities, of course. Likewise, intentional vehicle homicides to unintentional vehicle fatalities. People intentionally slaughter each other with guns far more often than they do with with vehicles. Or ladders. Or swimming pools. It’s the malice. ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2021, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9801 "2021-12-01T01:26:39Z")
So you want to outlaw everything with that poor ratio or are guns special? ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2021, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9802 "2021-12-01T01:41:03Z")
Another “You can’t look at this this problem until you solve all the other problems!” asshole. ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2021, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9803 "2021-12-01T01:56:07Z")
Nope just learning the rules you make up on the spot. I’ve never seen some one compare intentional homicides to unintentional deaths as a ratio. Hell I’ve googled a bit and I can’t find any tables that would give the ratio for various objects. I would assume baseball bats are a much worse ratio then guns so it seems like a stupid way to compare ways to kill people. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2021, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9804 "2021-12-01T03:07:46Z")
> [@Oredigger77](#): > > I would assume baseball bats are a much worse ratio then guns I’ll take $5 of that bet… if you’re serious. ```auto Edited to add: someone in Chicago has to hold the money. ``` ---
**Author:** ![CookingWithGas](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cookingwithgas/32/485_2.png) [@CookingWithGas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CookingWithGas)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2021, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9805 "2021-12-01T03:52:25Z")
> [@Oredigger77](#): > > So you want to outlaw everything with that poor ratio or are guns special? Guns are special because they are the only product that kills people when used as intended by the manufacturer. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2021, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9806 "2021-12-01T04:22:49Z")
> [@Oredigger77](#): > > If there were more deaths it wouldn’t bother me just like traffic deaths don’t bother me. Do you also resist attempts to make cars safer? Against DUI or distracted driving laws? Do you think that people shouldn’t even have to take a test before getting a license, nor have it revoked for using it irresponsibly? Should we not carry insurance in case we do cause damage or injury to others? Yeah, the utility our society gets from having cars makes the death toll a trade off that people are willing to accept, but we still try to reduce it and mitigate the damage. There’s also the fact that most injured or hurt in a car were at the time benefiting from the use of that car. We don’t get nearly the same utility out of having easy access to guns as we do having access to transportation. All attempts at reducing the damage they do to society are zealously resisted. But it is good to know that there is a price you are willing to let others pay in order for you to continue to make sure that criminals and irresponsible people can have access to guns. ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2021, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9807 "2021-12-01T04:35:09Z")
Well, since betting is against the board rules. I’ll have to pass. I’m curious though how many non intentional deaths you think baseball bats cause? I know of several murders with them but noone who was accidentally killed. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729.md?page=489) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729.md?page=491)