# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 29, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729 "2013-01-29T19:01:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 491
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2021, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9808 "2021-12-01T04:41:34Z")
Huh? You might want to put down the crack pipe. Or at least share more of it with your friends. Guns can kill when used according to manufacturer specifications but they are hardly unique for that just to name swords off the top of my head. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2021, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9809 "2021-12-01T04:43:59Z")
1. Do you have any stats on sword deaths in the U.S.? 2. In how many states is it legal to carry a sword in public? ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2021, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9810 "2021-12-01T05:00:08Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > Do you also resist attempts to make cars safer? Against DUI or distracted driving laws? Do you think that people shouldn’t even have to take a test before getting a license, nor have it revoked for using it irresponsibly? Should we not carry insurance in case we do cause damage or injury to others? I think the 0.08 BAC is a dumb limit and I would rather have a performance based standard that included things like other drugs or being sleepy. I’m against lowered the BAC and would be ok with it being raised. I think most of the distracted driver laws are stupid and I’d be ok with their being repealed. I’m comfortable with testing prior to a license being granted and requiring a license for use on public roads as well as the revocation of that license. I really don’t care if other people have insurance for their cars and I’d be ok with that requirement being removed. > [@k9bfriender](#): > > Yeah, the utility our society gets from having cars makes the death toll a trade off that people are willing to accept, but we still try to reduce it and mitigate the damage. Cars have much higher utility than guns and therefore we accept a higher death toll. Once we add in the effects of car emissions there are close to 60k death in the US from passenger cars. I wouldn’t do anything to decrease the utility of cars to have a lower death rate like a national 55mph speed limit. Guns have a utility as well and I wouldn’t want to do anything to decrease that utility to have a lower death rate either. I’d be very ok to lower the death rate without harming the utility though. Which is why I think red flag laws are a great idea. I’d also be ok with regulating gun similarly to how we regulate cars. But I do not think we are at the balancing point with either guns or cars where any increase in deaths must be immeasitly stopped either. > [@k9bfriender](#): > > But it is good to know that there is a price you are willing to let others pay in order for you to continue to make sure that criminals and irresponsible people can have access to guns “Irresponcible” people need to be able to defend themselves as well. Depending on how you want to define irresponsible I probably even agree with you that they shouldn’t have access to a fire arm. I would prefer that criminals don’t have access to firearms and we should cut down on the ways that they are attaining. Preventing strawman buyers is a good thing and probably the single biggest thing that would prevent the flow of guns into the underworld. Almost no (less that 10% iirc) guns used in crime are stolen most of them are purchased either from a straw buyer or legally. We do need to balance the right and freedom of people who are legal and “responsible” owners against whatever hardships we place on them in the name of preventing something bad. There is certainly room for a lot of regulation that is both non burdensome and useful. ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2021, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9811 "2021-12-01T05:05:32Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > - Do you have any stats on sword deaths in the U.S.? > - In how many states is it legal to carry a sword in public? 1. Nope. Is that relevant to the them killing people when sued according to manufacturer directions? 2. No idea. I found California and Washington before I got bored. You might want to check Oregon and Idaho next and let me know in the morning. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2021, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9812 "2021-12-01T05:29:41Z")
Nothing of the sort! I have some small debts in and around Chicago… and you seem to be just the Sucker to pay them. If the Board will allow an exception ( and if you actually have two nickels to your name ) I’d be happy to ‘up’ it to $80. ( Chicago Person Still Holds Funds, offer Void unless Approved by Mod. ) ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2021, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9813 "2021-12-01T05:45:07Z")
Are we still allowed to bet for quatloos around here? ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2021, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9814 "2021-12-01T06:12:18Z")
Damn. I’ll never be able to pay off my debts at this rate… ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2021, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9815 "2021-12-01T07:36:48Z")
How many places is it legal to carry swords around? Edit: this is a legit curious question. Not trying to be snarky. ---
**Author:** ![Bruce\_Wayne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bruce\_Wayne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bruce_Wayne)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2021, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9816 "2021-12-01T11:52:27Z")
> Here is a video from the incident at Oxford High school in Michigan from yesterday. Its my understanding that it was indeed the gun man knocking at the door. I am impressed by the kids in the video, they wasted no time making their escape. ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2021, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9817 "2021-12-01T12:55:46Z")
Just awful that our kids have to continue to go through these things. He used a gun his father purchased just 4 days ago. Three families devastated. ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2021, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9818 "2021-12-01T13:50:45Z")
> [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](#): > > Nothing of the sort! > [@Terms of Service and FAQ](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/registration-agreement-rules-and-faq/823562/): > > Terms of Service The current Terms of Service may be viewed [here](https://boards.straightdope.com/tos). Nope, clearly against the rules. ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2021, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9819 "2021-12-01T13:52:17Z")
Uncertain. The first two I looked at we legal last night. Both Washington and California allow it as long as it is sheathed in California and you are threatening in washington. ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2021, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9820 "2021-12-01T13:53:23Z")
> [@Bruce\_Wayne](#): > > Here is a video from the incident at Oxford High school in Michigan from yesterday. Its my understanding that it was indeed the gun man knocking at the door. I am impressed by the kids in the video, they wasted no time making their escape. Damn, good job by the kids. ---
**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2021, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9821 "2021-12-01T18:48:51Z")
Pranks! Guns! What could go wrong? Not sure how the charge is involuntary manslaughter. Seems to me that the perpetrator had planned in advance to intentionally shoot the victim in the face with a gun. > **[Gun store owner in SC charged with involuntary manslaughter after prank gone...](https://abcnews4.com/news/local/gun-store-owner-charged-with-involuntary-manslaughter-after-deadly-shooting-at-shop-berkeley-county-south-carolina-wciv)** > > BERKELEY COUNTY, S. C. (WCIV) — A gun store owner in South Carolina is facing aninvoluntary manslaughter charge after a worker was fatally shot at the business in early November. On Friday,Coastal Firearms owner Jon Whitley, 52, of Berkeley County,... ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2021, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9822 "2021-12-01T18:57:12Z")
What a hilarious prank! Prank connoisseur @Mark_Finn should check this one out, maybe he can try it next time he stays at a hotel! > [@Hotel room pranks](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/hotel-room-pranks/954936): > > Have any of you done any (or other pranks which don’t cause damage) of these in a hotel (just before checkout), and what results? I have had the first two done to me, and they can work just as well in a friend’s room if you have a couple of minutes alone. Just before checkout, set the alarm clock to go off at 3 am. If it’s a radio alarm, make sure it’s tuned to a heavy-metal station and the volume is up full. Alternatively - see if you can request a wake-up call on the phone (without human in… ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2021, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9823 "2021-12-01T20:36:55Z")
I don’t understand. It was a perfect plan. What could **possibly** go wrong ?? :-/ ---
**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2021, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9824 "2021-12-01T20:52:57Z")
I was actually wondering the same thing. [FindLaw: Is It Legal to Carry a Sword in Public?](https://www.findlaw.com/legalblogs/criminal-defense/is-it-legal-to-carry-a-sword-in-public/) > So while it may be legal in some specific circumstances, carrying a sword in public is typically illegal. ---
**Author:** ![CookingWithGas](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cookingwithgas/32/485_2.png) [@CookingWithGas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CookingWithGas)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2021, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9825 "2021-12-01T21:59:19Z")
Show me an advertisement for a sword that says it has high stopping power. Swords are marketed for sport and display. Yes, they can be lethal, but I don’t hear any noise about the right to bear swords. Also a gun can kill someone from a distance. > [@Oredigger77](#): > > If there were more deaths it wouldn’t bother me just like traffic deaths don’t bother me. Deaths don’t bother you. Well, that sums it up right there. > **[Homicides by murder weapon in the U.S. 2022 | Statista](https://www.statista.com/statistics/195325/murder-victims-in-the-us-by-weapon-used/)** > > Handguns are by far the most common murder weapon used in the United States, accounting for 7,936 homicides in 2022. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2021, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9826 "2021-12-01T22:03:09Z")
Wow. I hadn’t realized that firearms deaths were _that_ far ahead. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2021, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9827 "2021-12-01T22:20:14Z")
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