# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 29, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729 "2013-01-29T19:01:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 492
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2021, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9828 "2021-12-01T22:24:21Z")
> [@CookingWithGas](#): > > Deaths don’t bother you. Well, that sums it up right there. Yep. I guess that’s why the smarmy little fuck had to get so nasty when I pointed that out. ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9829 "2021-12-02T02:54:13Z")
> [@CookingWithGas](#): > > Show me an advertisement for a sword that says it has high stopping power. Swords are marketed for sport and display. Yes, they can be lethal, but I don’t hear any noise about the right to bear swords. Also a gun can kill someone from a distance. So you were wrong and are trying to reposition. I’m glad you took my advise. Remember you said: > [@CookingWithGas](#): > > Guns are special because they are the only product that kills people when used as intended by the manufacturer. I wasn’t awake enough to even think of that guy who went on the Bow and arrow rampage earlier this year or crossbows. I also think it’s interesting that clubs have more murders than shotgun. I knew shot gun deaths were rare but I wouldn’t have guessed that rare. ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9830 "2021-12-02T03:04:12Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > Yep. I guess that’s why the smarmy little fuck had to get so nasty when I pointed that out. Your self righteous and disingenuous posts disgust me. Occasionally I slip and show what I really think of pieces of shit like you. I have no doubt you skipped work to pleasure yourself today and told your coworkers it was because you couldn’t stop crying about the latest shooting. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9831 "2021-12-02T03:16:24Z")
> [@Oredigger77](#): > > I also think it’s interesting that clubs have more murders than shotgun. I find it predictable that you would compare clubs to one particular small percentage of firearms. That is sort of like comparing the number of people in a state to the number of people in a single county of another state. ---
**Author:** ![CookingWithGas](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cookingwithgas/32/485_2.png) [@CookingWithGas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CookingWithGas)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9832 "2021-12-02T03:28:20Z")
> [@Oredigger77](#): > > I wasn’t awake enough to even think of that guy who went on the Bow and arrow rampage earlier this year or crossbows. Bows and arrows and crossbows are not designed and sold to kill people. I didn’t say they _couldn’t_ kill people. Many guns are designed and sold to kill people. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9833 "2021-12-02T03:59:01Z")
> [@CookingWithGas](#): > > Bows and arrows and crossbows are not designed and sold to kill people. I didn’t say they _couldn’t_ kill people. Many guns are designed and sold to kill people Even swords are a shitty example; swords are intended for display or ceremonial purposes, I doubt any US manufacturers have made a sword with the intent that it be used to kill since 1918. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9834 "2021-12-02T04:01:11Z")
> [@Oredigger77](#): > > Your self righteous and disingenuous posts disgust me. Occasionally I slip and show what I really think of pieces of shit like you. I have no doubt you skipped work to pleasure yourself today and told your coworkers it was because you couldn’t stop crying about the latest shooting. These posts of yours are very illuminating. You wouldn’t waste a second’s thought on lives needlessly wasted; you can’t imagine a reason why anyone else would other than sexual gratification. I guess if I was a psychopath with no regard for other people’s lives like you apparently are, I wouldn’t care about the staggeringly high number of gun deaths in the US either. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 10:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9835 "2021-12-02T10:36:48Z")
I’ve spent much of the pandemic astonished and saddened that there were so many anti-maskers and anti-vaxxers and anti-social-distancing types out there in America, making the argument that their personal “freedom” to indulge in whatever behaviors they wanted outweighed any consideration of all the people they put at risk or the potentially thousands of deaths that could result from what they were doing and the positions they promote, and insisting that it was the fault of the people they were endangering if they were frightened by such behaviors. In retrospect, I suppose I should have seen it coming. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9836 "2021-12-02T13:03:17Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > Even swords are a shitty example I, like many people, carry a knife. I use it for opening packages, cutting paracord, cutting sandwiches that arrive at the table uncut, etc. I have friends who do the same thing. There are people out there who, when they see me flip my knife open, look aghast. I have become much more subtle/discreet when using my knife, fearing for the day someone pulls their gun on me. ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9837 "2021-12-02T14:55:59Z")
Yes, that’s what I did. I didn’t in any way point out something unexpected in the data. Of course you already knew precisely how many were killed by every type of device and saw nothing of note in the data. ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9838 "2021-12-02T14:58:47Z")
How are the guns designed to kill people designed differently than the guns designed to kill deer? At best you’re admitting that not all guns are designed to kill people which would be a huge step forward for you. ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9839 "2021-12-02T15:01:06Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > . I guess if I was a psychopath with no regard for other people’s lives like you apparently are, I wouldn’t care about the staggeringly high number of gun deaths in the US either. Oh you care all right. Without them you’d have to find something else to be sanctimonious about maybe the waste of helium during parades. ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9840 "2021-12-02T15:03:22Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > In retrospect, I suppose I should have seen it coming. And yet. I’m 100% in compliance with masks and fully vaccinated. Of course, I’ve also never pointed a gun at a person and my guns will never take a human life. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9841 "2021-12-02T15:05:00Z")
> [@Oredigger77](#): > > And yet. I’m 100% in compliance with masks and fully vaccinated. Of course, I’ve also never pointed a gun at a person and my guns will never take a human life. Good for you. Have a cookie. > [@Oredigger77](#): > > How are the guns designed to kill people designed differently than the guns designed to kill deer? For starters, Kyle Rittenhouse is allowed to carry one kind in Wisconsin and not the other. ---
**Author:** ![Oredigger77](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oredigger77/32/3181_2.png) [@Oredigger77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oredigger77)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9842 "2021-12-02T15:18:48Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Good for you. Have a cookie. Hopefully you’ve learned the difference between Russian roulette and owning a gun. I doubt it but I’m eternally hopeful. > [@Gyrate](#): > > For starters, Kyle Rittenhouse is allowed to carry one kind in Wisconsin and not the other. That’s a cool design feature. How did the engineer draw it? Oh, you mean you’re to dumb to know the difference between a law and a design, impressive. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9843 "2021-12-02T15:22:59Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > I, like many people, carry a knife. I use it for opening packages, cutting paracord, cutting sandwiches that arrive at the table uncut, etc. I have friends who do the same thing. Always carrying a sharp tool – a hand axe or a modern knife – is your birthright as a hominin. Our ancestors have done it for a million years. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9844 "2021-12-02T15:25:19Z")
Grunts and passes dropzone a chunk of elk. Happy Holidays, dude! ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9845 "2021-12-02T16:04:11Z")
Ah, abuse. But then “Hur hur gun grabbers don’t know anything about guns” is a standard gun rights nut tactic, right along with “Look over there! Cars! Swimming pools!”. Anything to distract from the aberration among Western nations that America is. You made it clear that you’re perfectly content with the number of gun deaths in America because you’re not personally planning to shoot anyone. We get it - you’re fine with generations of children growing up in fear of being murdered - or actually being murdered. That’s not really a moral high ground to be looking down on anyone from but hey, whatever works for you. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9846 "2021-12-02T16:24:59Z")
> [@Oredigger77](#): > > Oh you care all right. Without them you’d have to find something else to be sanctimonious about maybe the waste of helium during parades. I think there are plenty of problems bigger than helium wastage and smaller than the far too frequent murdering of children to worry about first, but are you saying we SHOULDN’T try to solve the looming helium shortage? ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2021, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9847 "2021-12-02T16:26:04Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > We get it - you’re fine with generations of children growing up in fear of being murdered - or actually being murdered. That’s not really a moral high ground to be looking down on anyone from but hey, whatever works for you. At least he isn’t “sanctimonious” that would really be something to be ashamed of [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729.md?page=491) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729.md?page=493)