# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 29, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729 "2013-01-29T19:01:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2021, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9908 "2021-12-09T19:01:28Z")

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> [@Oredigger77](#):
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> If I’m going to beat you down. I’ll use my fists much more fun.

[Moderating]  
Threats of physical violence aren’t allowed, even in the Pit. Do not post stuff like this again.

No warning issued.  
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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2021, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9909 "2021-12-09T19:20:48Z")

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After deliberating for 90 minutes, a jury decided David Wilson acted in self-defense when he fatally shot a Texas police officer who was at his home to investigate a burglar alarm that had been triggered. Wilson says he thought the officer was a burglar.

> **[David Wilson found not guilty of murder in shooting of MPD officer Nathan...](https://t.co/OKFbaZ2TXN)**
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> After an hour and a half of deliberation, the jury found David Wilson not guilty of murder.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2021, 11:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9910 "2021-12-12T11:33:04Z")

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This actually belongs in the Positive Gun News thread, but since I’m thread banned from posting there, I’m putting it here to celebrate.

California Governor Gavin Newsom calls for bill to allow private citizens to sue assault weapon manufacturers and distributors.

> **[Newsom calls for bill to allow private citizens to sue gun manufacturers,...](https://www.kcra.com/article/newsom-bill-allow-private-citizens-sue-gun-manufacturers-distributors/38493407)**
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> The statement is a response to the Supreme Court’s decision on Texas’ abortion bill.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2021, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9911 "2021-12-12T12:35:45Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> California Governor Gavin Newsom calls for bill to allow private citizens to sue assault weapon manufacturers and distributors.

Notwithstanding the Supreme Court decision on the Texas abortion law, you just know they will strike this down. Perfectly consistent Republican principles, y’know.

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2021, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9912 "2021-12-12T12:59:15Z")

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> [@Senegoid](#):
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> Notwithstanding the Supreme Court decision on the Texas abortion law, you just know they will strike this down.

AIUI, the Texas abortion law hasn’t been ‘decided’ - SCOTUS simply refused to suspend it, making it a stopgap measure. Once they have struck down actual Roe v. Wade, they can strike down the Texas law without worry about their immortal souls (since they don’t give a crap about the Constitution).

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**Author:** ![Isamu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/7c8e57/32.png) [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2021, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9913 "2021-12-14T11:34:50Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> This actually belongs in the Positive Gun News thread, but since I’m thread banned from posting there, I’m putting it here to celebrate.
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> California Governor Gavin Newsom calls for bill to allow private citizens to sue assault weapon manufacturers and distributors.

Oh no, those rights were taken away from you by the Child Safety Lock Act of 2005.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2021, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9914 "2021-12-14T17:37:41Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> And _you_ may know that you’re one of the safe, rational and responsible ones,

(underlining mine)  
Every single person involved in an incident in this thread would almost surely have described themselves as one of the safe rational and responsible ones. So even that is open to question.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2021, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9915 "2021-12-14T17:41:35Z")

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> [@Buck\_Godot](#):
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> Every single person involved in an incident in this thread would almost surely have described themselves as one of the safe rational and responsible ones. So even that is open to question.

100% true. A specific gun owner is the last person I’d ask when trying to determine if said gun owner is responsible or not.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2021, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9916 "2021-12-14T18:11:55Z")

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> [@Babale](#):
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> A specific gun owner is the last person I’d ask when trying to determine if said gun owner is responsible or not.

“_Of course_ I am responsible! Why this gun is not even loa…”

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**Author:** ![lum\_s\_husband](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lum_s_husband/32/3698_2.png) [@lum\_s\_husband](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lum_s_husband)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2021, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9917 "2021-12-14T18:14:54Z")

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Look, all we can know for certain is that the gun is innocent.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2021, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9918 "2021-12-14T18:29:09Z")

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> [@lum\_s\_husband](#):
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> Look, all we can know for certain is that the gun is innocent

In the immortal words of Jon Lajoie,

> [@](#):
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> Guns don’t kill people  
> Uh-uh.  
> I kill people [ka-click]  
> With guns [pow!]

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2021, 6:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9919 "2021-12-19T06:46:50Z")

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[twitter video](https://twitter.com/davenewworld_2/status/1472127208999337984) seems to show a person in a car following a school bus waving at the bus standing up through the sunroof; then he reaches down into the car, takes out what looks like a rifle and points it toward the bus.

But, this was in Ohio, so I guess it is ok.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2021, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9920 "2021-12-19T07:00:45Z")

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I’ve been told that in an open carry state there’s no reason to be, even slightly, alarmed by the above.

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2021, 9:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9921 "2021-12-19T09:18:31Z")

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I remember “Show and Tell” being different, but I’m not from Ohio.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2021, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9922 "2021-12-19T16:25:00Z")

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Guy shoots and kills his friend over a video game mishap.

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> When investigators asked if Spellman had to retrieve his gun before the shooting, he said it was by his computer. “I asked him why his pistol was next (to) the computer. Josh replied, ‘Why not? This is America,’ ” the affidavit reads.

> **[Dispute over video game prompted fatal shooting in north Clark County,...](https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2021/dec/17/dispute-over-video-game-prompted-fatal-shooting-in/)**
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> A 36-year-old man allegedly shot and killed his friend of 26 years Wednesday night in north Clark County after the two argued over a mishap in a role-playing, hack-and-slash video game.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2021, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9923 "2021-12-19T17:30:05Z")

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> [@wguy123](#):
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> Guy shoots and kills his friend over a video game mishap

My roommates in college both played Diablo, and based on how they’d yell at each other when they played together and it wasn’t going well I wouldn’t have been surprised if they shot each other…

> [@wguy123](#):
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> When investigators asked if Spellman had to retrieve his gun before the shooting, he said it was by his computer. “I asked him why his pistol was next (to) the computer. Josh replied, ‘Why not? This is America,’ ” the affidavit reads.

This is the saddest indictment of our country I’ve seen all day.

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2021, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9924 "2021-12-19T21:51:55Z")

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One or two less (R) voters. Dead and felon. I have no special insight into their voting records, I’m just a collection of electrons and photons on the ethernet.

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2021, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9925 "2021-12-19T22:00:17Z")

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> [@Babale](#):
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> This is the saddest indictment of our country I’ve seen all day.

Truth. Unless you live in a 1 room apt and sleep in your chair, there is no reason to ever leave a loaded gun next to your computer.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [December 20, 2021, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9926 "2021-12-20T00:08:56Z")

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> [@wguy123](#):
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> When investigators asked if Spellman had to retrieve his gun before the shooting, he said it was by his computer. “I asked him why his pistol was next (to) the computer. Josh replied, ‘Why not? This is America,’ ” the affidavit reads.

Some people need to be reminded their right to remain silent also protects them from coming across like total dipsticks.

I mean, yeah, sure, this is America, I agree, but that doesn’t mean I just let my SUV run overnight where it’s parked.

“Just because you _can…_”

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2021, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/9927 "2021-12-21T00:39:16Z")

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Man shoots neighbor walking dog on his street.

> **[Man Facing Second-Degree Murder Charge After Deadly Dispute Between Neighbors...](https://www.cbsnews.com/miami/news/angel-perez-deadly-dispute-sw-miami-dade/)**
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> Investigators said what started out as an argument between two men ended in gunfire.

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