# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 29, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729 "2013-01-29T19:01:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2013, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/81 "2013-01-30T23:42:05Z")
> [@drew870mitchell](#): > > The rampant paranoia for one’s own safety, either from other citizens or from a supposed tyrannical government, doesn’t reflect well on us as a society. I do believe murderphobia is irrational. One is far less likely to be murdered in the US than to die of heart disease. However, one is far more likely to be murdered in the US than in Canada. Also, the government has reserved the right to indefinite detention without trial of US citizens, which is pretty tyrannical. ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2013, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/82 "2013-01-31T00:03:09Z")
What I love is how many fat asses I see talking about needing guns for home protection. If they want to live longer, go for a jog. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2013, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/83 "2013-01-31T00:20:09Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > What I love is how many fat asses I see talking about needing guns for home protection. If they want to live longer, go for a jog. Well, if they do that, they should take a gun, in case they see someone in a hoodie. ---
**Author:** ![ExTank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ExTank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExTank)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2013, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/84 "2013-01-31T00:38:57Z")
For the other side of this stupid coin: [The Armed Citizen](http://www.americanrifleman.org/BlogList.aspx?cid=25&id=21) [YouTube Version](http://www.youtube.com/user/TheArmedCitizen) ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2013, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/85 "2013-01-31T02:58:54Z")
> [@ExTank](#): > > For the other side of this stupid coin: > > [The Armed Citizen](http://www.americanrifleman.org/BlogList.aspx?cid=25&id=21) > > [YouTube Version](http://www.youtube.com/user/TheArmedCitizen) I love that in the handful of anecdotes from the Armer Citizen, on the\* very first page\*, they have anecdotes from 1985 and from 1979! I know this isn’t a systematic catalog, but sheesh, it’s really hard to see how you’re going to get to more than a couple hundred within a year. But you know what? I’m thrilled, assuming these stories are accurate, for their outcomes. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2013, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/86 "2013-01-31T04:01:34Z")
Leftish Radio Guy Norman Goldman has been trying to make the point that some gun regulation will help to preserve the 2nd Amendment while jerks like in the OP only hasten its end by making Normals freak out. He has a point. ---
**Author:** ![Double\_Foolscap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85e7bf/32.png) [@Double\_Foolscap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Double_Foolscap)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2013, 9:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/87 "2013-01-31T09:04:49Z")
> [@gamerunknown](#): > > I do believe murderphobia is irrational. One is far less likely to be murdered in the US than to die of heart disease. However, one is far more likely to be murdered in the US than in Canada. **Also, the government has reserved the right to indefinite detention without trial of US citizens, which is pretty tyrannical.** And having a gun is going to help with the bit I bolded? I suppose if you consider a protracted siege and eventual death by SWAT team a win… ---
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2013, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/88 "2013-01-31T17:18:48Z")
> [@gamerunknown](#): > > I do believe murderphobia is irrational. One is far less likely to be murdered in the US than to die of heart disease. Which is relevant if you know a lot of gun control advocates who are pro-heart disease. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2013, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/89 "2013-01-31T18:07:26Z")
> [@madmonk28](#): > > What I love is how many fat asses I see talking about needing guns for home protection. If they want to live longer, go for a jog. I don’t know where you are but in Northern Virginia, the guys at the gun range are generally physically fit (or at least not terribly out of shape). But that might not be a representative sample of gun owners in the area. I think gun ownership should come with a requirement to go to the gun range at least once a year. Kind of like a safety inspection to make sure you know how to use your guns and for a bit of education on gunlaws and the importance of gun safety. It seems pretty obvious at this point that an AWB is dead and even a cap on magazine capacity is not getting very much traction. BUT it does look like we might get universal background checks. I haven’t heard anything about a national gun registry or national gun licensing standards but I hope someone brings it up. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2013, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/90 "2013-02-01T18:15:43Z")
> **[GunFAIL III](https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2013/02/01/1182767/-GunFAIL-III?showAll=yes)** > > First, we'll take care of some old business from prior to this week. Often, reports of shooting incidents that qualify for GunFAIL don't come out right away, but turn up a week or so later. ... Here are 58 new incidents in this week’s GunFail blog update. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2013, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/91 "2013-02-01T19:36:37Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > [GunFAIL III](http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/02/01/1182767/-GunFAIL-III?showAll=yes) > > Here are 58 new incidents in this week’s GunFail blog update. Four of the 28 non-suicide/murder stories involve either dropping or leaving a gun in the bathroom/restroom. Guns and toilets apparently do not mix. ---
**Author:** ![ExTank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ExTank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExTank)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2013, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/92 "2013-02-01T20:45:56Z")
[ATF’s Milwaukee Sting Operation Marred by Mistakes, Failures.](http://www.jsonline.com/watchdog/watchdogreports/atfs-milwaukee-sting-operation-marred-by-mistakes-failures-mu8akpj-188952581.html) ---
**Author:** ![madmonk28](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madmonk28/32/20811_2.png) [@madmonk28](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madmonk28)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2013, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/93 "2013-02-01T20:56:09Z")
Here’s a good one: > [@](#): > > A 26-year-old Eugene, Oregon man unintentionally shot himself in the thigh with a handgun he was openly carrying in a holster on his leg. > The man was using the bathroom at Indra’s Internet Lounge in downtown Eugene when he unintentionally discharged the gun. According to the owner of the cafe, after shooting himself the man crawled out of the bathroom and employees put a tourniquet on his leg to stop the bleeding until medical crews arrived. The owner added that the man was a regular at the cafe and was familiar with guns. > Police noted that in Oregon it is legal for someone to openly carry a holstered gun. Furthermore, someone wishing to openly carry a gun is not required to obtain any sort of carrying permit or undergo any sort of gun safety training. > Police are not releasing the man’s name and don’t plan on issuing any charges. > **[Ohh Shoot](http://ohhshoot.blogspot.com/)** ---
**Author:** ![ExTank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ExTank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExTank)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2013, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/94 "2013-02-01T20:56:10Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > I love that in the handful of anecdotes from the Armer Citizen, on the\* very first page\*, they have anecdotes from 1985 and from 1979! I know this isn’t a systematic catalog, but sheesh, it’s really hard to see how you’re going to get to more than a couple hundred within a year. When I click the link, it comes up to January 31, 2013. Maybe you have a browser setting issue? ETA: A handfull? There’s 11 pages when I load it. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2013, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/95 "2013-02-01T21:06:58Z")
> [@ExTank](#): > > [ATF’s Milwaukee Sting Operation Marred by Mistakes, Failures.](http://www.jsonline.com/watchdog/watchdogreports/atfs-milwaukee-sting-operation-marred-by-mistakes-failures-mu8akpj-188952581.html) You don’t suppose any problems at ATF would have to do with the campaign by conservitves to hamstring it in anyway possible, including blocking the appointment of a permanent director\* for the last six years?\* ---
**Author:** ![artemis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/91b2a8/32.png) [@artemis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/artemis)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2013, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/96 "2013-02-01T21:20:26Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Four of the 28 non-suicide/murder stories involve either dropping or leaving a gun in the bathroom/restroom. Guns and toilets apparently do not mix. They really don’t, actually, because most handguns are carried in waistband belt holsters, and using the toilet typically involves dropping your pants. It’s very easy to have a gun drop out of a waistband holster that doesn’t use a retention strap when a person drops their pants to use the loo, or for a person in the next stall to try to grab the gun out of the holster if they spot it while the gun owner’s pants are around his/her ankles - and if the person puts the gun on the the back of the toilet to avoid those problems, then the person risks forgetting to pick the gun back up when he/she is done. This was actually discussed in my CCW class, and the instructors’ recommendation was to remove the gun from the holster and place it in the crotch of the pants, which makes it impossible to absentmindedly forget it. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2013, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/97 "2013-02-01T21:49:39Z")
> [@ExTank](#): > > When I click the link, it comes up to January 31, 2013. Maybe you have a browser setting issue? > > ETA: A handfull? There’s 11 pages when I load it. Have you not read your own link? Item 15: “December, 1979”. Item 19: “December, 1985.” So, unless my browser is inserting text, then not a browser problem. Also, I too get 11 pages. Even including incidents from the year that Superbowl 13 was played, there are 22 items on page 1. 22 times 11 is indeed a handful of incidents. ---
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2013, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/98 "2013-02-01T22:11:28Z")
Many of the blog entries also include a “from the archives” item as well as the recent one. ---
**Author:** ![Fiddle\_Peghead](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddle_peghead/32/3506_2.png) [@Fiddle\_Peghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiddle_Peghead)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2013, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/99 "2013-02-01T22:35:37Z")
> [@runner pat](#): > > Image trying to store 5,000 rounds of ammo. [Potato rounds.](https://www.google.com/search?q=potato+rounds&hl=en&tbo=u&tbm=isch&source=univ&sa=X&ei=6kIMUb3oJKqQ0QH0w4DACA&ved=0CFYQsAQ&biw=1297&bih=892) Mmmmm! ---
**Author:** ![Fiddle\_Peghead](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddle_peghead/32/3506_2.png) [@Fiddle\_Peghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiddle_Peghead)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2013, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/100 "2013-02-01T22:44:57Z")
> [@jasg](#): > > I’ll lead with this AR-15 in [Krogers](http://www.nbc29.com/story/20755619/kroger-gun-stunt-sparks-2nd-amendment-debate). > [@](#): > > “I think the law should be changed a little bit to say yes, you could carry open with a handgun, but you know you don’t want to carry an assault weapon or any kind of shotgun in a public place of business,” [National Rifle Association (NRA) instructor Bill Davis] said. I’d prefer the law to say you may _only_ open carry “large” weapons, if there must be open carry laws at all. That way, we’d all be much more likely to know that a gun-toting idiot is in the area. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729.md?page=6)