# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 29, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729 "2013-01-29T19:01:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 69
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2013, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1361 "2013-03-30T20:59:52Z")
> [@Kable](#): > > I’m just trying to know if I should adopt the democratic platform on personal defense, but that sounds like something Palin would say. If Palin said it, gun strokers would be fist pumping and yelling “Booyah!!” ---
**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2013, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1362 "2013-03-30T21:17:03Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > If Palin said it, gun strokers would be fist pumping and yelling “Booyah!!” But Biden said it. So is it good advice? ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [March 30, 2013, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1363 "2013-03-30T21:20:15Z")
You are the one who said it was dumb. ---
**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2013, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1364 "2013-03-31T02:50:17Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > You are the one who said it was dumb. And I’m asking what you think. Or do you not know? ---
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2013, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1365 "2013-03-31T23:33:39Z")
[**4-year-old girl shot dead in car in Miami**](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20130331/us-child-shot-in-car/?utm_hp_ref=homepage&ir=homepage) > [@](#): > > MIAMI — A 4-year-old girl was fatally shot while she sat in a car outside her grandfather’s Miami home, and now detectives are trying to determine if another child who was in the vehicle pulled the trigger, police said Sunday. > > The children were waiting in a white Mercedes-Benz Saturday evening as an adult stood nearby outside in an impoverished neighborhood with scattered storefront churches and boarded-up businesses on the northern edge of Miami-Dade County. > > Rahquel Carr was shot in the upper body with a handgun believed to have been fired from inside the vehicle, Miami-Dade Police Detective Roy Rutland said. The owner of the weapon and the car was not present and has not been charged. > > At least two other children were in the vehicle at the time, all believed to have been younger than 10, Rutland said. Investigators were speaking with those children, which Rutland said was a delicate process because of their age. > > “We are interviewing those kids and we’re trying to ascertain if one of the other children shot the kid,” he said. > > The Miami-Dade Office of the State Attorney will review the case to determine if any charges will be filed. An autopsy will also be done to determine how many times the girl was shot, and where. > > The adult who was standing nearby was not identified and has also not been charged. > > Armando Alvarado, 58, was sitting inside his home three doors down when he heard children screaming. He went outside and saw a woman crying for help on her cell phone. > > “She was crying desperately,” he said. > > Police arrived within a minute, and a rescuer carried the girl into an ambulance, he said. Her limbs were limp and blood was on her face. The girl died a short time later after being airlifted to a hospital. > > Rahquel’s grandfather also was hospitalized because he was overcome with emotion. The two were very close, and he would sometimes watch the girl while she rode her bike outside. > > “The grandfather just loved her so much,” said Michael Hardaway, 55, who lives next door. “He couldn’t take it.” > > On Sunday, the family gathered with a minister at the home but declined to comment. Police tape had been removed, with only a large, orange, spray-painted “X” remaining in front of the driveway… ---
**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2013, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1366 "2013-03-31T23:59:53Z")
Four year old girl shot with a handgun? If the gun-grabbers read that they will call for a ban on semiautomatic rifles! ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2013, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1367 "2013-04-01T00:19:07Z")
A few more stories like this and they can go ahead and start with the handguns instead. ---
**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2013, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1368 "2013-04-01T00:34:28Z")
> [@Ethilrist](#): > > A few more stories like this and they can go ahead and start with the handguns instead. Why wait. Banning handguns makes a lot more sense from a public health perspective than banning semiautomatic rifles. That’s nothing new, it’s always been that way. Didn’t you know? ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2013, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1369 "2013-04-01T01:47:27Z")
> [@Kable](#): > > Banning handguns makes a lot more sense from a public health perspective than banning semiautomatic rifles. I actually agree with that, so let’s ban handguns. Except for the very few that are designed to punch holes in paper their sole purpose is punching holes in people, and they are a lot easier for children to mishandle. Congratulations for finally wising up, Kable. It takes a big man to evolve philosophically. ---
**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2013, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1370 "2013-04-01T02:27:41Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > I actually agree with that, so let’s ban handguns. Except for the very few that are designed to punch holes in paper their sole purpose is punching holes in people, and they are a lot easier for children to mishandle. True many handguns are designed to stop crimes, more so than rifles and shotguns. Certainly they are easier to mishandle, but they are much handier to carry concealed in case you need to defend yourself at an ATM, or shoot a guy you see stabbing a woman in Walmart. > [@](#): > > Congratulations for finally wising up, Kable. It takes a big man to evolve philosophically. Thanks, but I’m not in favor of banning handguns at all, I’m just saying it would be more reasonable target if gun grabbers were really interested in saving lives. But you don’t because you’re not, rather you all are just a little hysterical over evil looking semiautomatic rifles. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2013, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1371 "2013-04-01T02:46:56Z")
Bit fuzzy on the motivation here. If “gun-grabbers” don’t “really” want to save lives, what is it that they do “really” want? Macrame? A chance to date Jane Fonda? The perfect dry Martini? Maybe you don’t know? Your telepathic rays show you the truth, that the “gun grabbers” don’t really want to save lives, but doesn’t tell you what they do want? Of course, “gun grabbers” might disagree…well, of course they would, wouldn’t they, they are all liars! Looks take a tip from somebody a lot smarter, being me. Don’t ever, ever put on your telepathy rays when talking to your girlfriend or your family. You don’t want to know. ---
**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2013, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1372 "2013-04-01T02:59:54Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Bit fuzzy on the motivation here. If “gun-grabbers” don’t “really” want to save lives, what is it that they do “really” want? Macrame? A chance to date Jane Fonda? The perfect dry Martini? I figure what you want to do is ban guns. Why because you are registered democrats and that’s what a registered democrat is supposed to do. > [@](#): > > Maybe you don’t know? Your telepathic rays show you the truth, that the “gun grabbers” don’t really want to save lives, but doesn’t tell you what they do want? Of course, “gun grabbers” might disagree…well, of course they would, wouldn’t they, they are all liars! I think a lot of you are liars, or coy with your true intentions so to speak. > [@](#): > > Looks take a tip from somebody a lot smarter, being me. Don’t ever, ever put on your telepathy rays when talking to your girlfriend or your family. You don’t want to know. FWIW my girlfriends family is a lot more conservative than I. My enthusiastic appreciation of the second amendment is one of my saving graces in their book. Otherwise they think of me as a liberal. Weird huh? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2013, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1373 "2013-04-01T06:20:23Z")
> [@Kable](#): > > I figure what you want to do is ban guns. Why because you are registered democrats and that’s what a registered democrat is supposed to do… Not a Democrat, registered or otherwise. But even if so, you mean that there is no other reason but instructions from the Central Hivemind? Seriously, this is the way you think? But not you. No, not you, you are the independent and unbiased thinker. Which is why so many of us are so very, very wrong and you…just you…are totally right. Wow. > [@](#): > > …I think a lot of you are liars, or coy with your true intentions so to speak… Wasn’t the question was an evasion of the question. You claim that we “gun grabbers” don’t really want to save lives, but our true intentions? The best you can do is we think that way because somebody told us to? No shit, you really believe that? > [@](#): > > …FWIW my girlfriends family is a lot more conservative than I. My enthusiastic appreciation of the second amendment is one of my saving graces in their book. Otherwise they think of me as a liberal. Weird huh? OMG, you’re boinking Ann Coulter! Well, somebody has to, I guess. Better you than…well, better you. You should go back to posting videos from YouTube. Looks to be your high water mark, rational discussion wise. ---
**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2013, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1374 "2013-04-01T13:56:54Z")
[quote=“elucidator, post:1373, topic:648729”] Not a Democrat, registered or otherwise. But even if so, you mean that there is no other reason but instructions from the Central Hivemind? Seriously, this is the way you think?/quote] Democrats not left enough for you? Of course that’s the way I think, because it’s obvious. Why would you want to ban assault weapons when all the statistics show handguns are the bigger problem regarding both crime and accidents. I can think of only 2 reasons and neither of them do you want to admit. > [@](#): > > But not you. No, not you, you are the independent and unbiased thinker. Which is why so many of us are so very, very wrong and you…just you…are totally right. Wow. This time yes. Remember only one of us has experience with all these weapons and only one of us has had a home invasion happen to them. > [@](#): > > OMG, you’re boinking Ann Coulter! Well, somebody has to, I guess. Better you than…well, better you. Nah, my girlfriend things much the same as me, her parents are your standard Republicans, watch Fox, etc. But I at least don’t need to resort to alternative herbal remedies to boink her. How’s that ginseng working out BTW. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2013, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1375 "2013-04-01T14:11:44Z")
> [@Kable](#): > > Democrats not left enough for you? Of course that’s the way I think, because it’s obvious. Why would you want to ban assault weapons when all the statistics show handguns are the bigger problem regarding both crime and accidents. I can think of only 2 reasons and neither of them do you want to admit. Why don’t you give us one, and those of us not obliterated by your flawless reasoning can then decide whether we can bear to hear the other. You’re just moving it up the chain, not providing a reason. Why do “registered Democrats” (or the Master Control Program commanding them) want to “grab”\* guns, if not out of a desire to save lives? - For the purposes of this question we can expand the definition to include actual confiscation, which will never happen, along with any type of restriction on the purchase of firearms, which (no matter how modest) is apparently malign enough to be considered “grabbing.” ---
**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2013, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1376 "2013-04-01T14:17:24Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Why don’t you give us one, and those of us not obliterated by your flawless reasoning can then decide whether we can bear to hear the other. I’ve already told you guys several times. Breaking news: > **[Father of 2 Shoots, Kills Home Intruder](https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/home-intruder-shooting/1953123/)** > > A South Philadelphia homeowner opened fire early Sunday morning on two men who broke into his home. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2013, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1377 "2013-04-01T14:24:17Z")
So, **Vinyl Turnip** , we have been discovered. The reason that, at our very core, we want to grab all guns is because an Asian American man in Philadelphia successfully defended himself and his family with one. Our anti-Asian-Americans-in-Philadelphia program has been discovered! Clear out the command post and destroy all documentation. Make sure that all hard drives have been pulled. ---
**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2013, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1378 "2013-04-01T14:40:37Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > So, **Vinyl Turnip** , we have been discovered. The reason that, at our very core, we want to grab all guns is because an Asian American man in Philadelphia successfully defended himself and his family with one. > > Our anti-Asian-Americans-in-Philadelphia program has been discovered! Clear out the command post and destroy all documentation. Make sure that all hard drives have been pulled. See how you mock responsible gun use. See how you mock a man legally defending his life and the life of his children. But if it were bad news, you might start a whole new thread about it. Sad you are so brainwashed in your outlook. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2013, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1379 "2013-04-01T14:47:11Z")
> [@Kable](#): > > See how you mock responsible gun use. See how you mock a man legally defending his life and the life of his children. But if it were bad news, you might start a whole new thread about it. Sad you are so brainwashed in your outlook. No, dummy. I’m mocking you. Your cut and paste was a total non sequitur in regards to the request that was made of you. Further, as a general rule, it’s probably safe for you to assume that most things that are said in your vicinity are mocking you in some fashion. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2013, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1380 "2013-04-01T14:47:31Z")
> [@Kable](#): > > See how you mock responsible gun use. Come see the repression inherent in the system! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729.md?page=68) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729.md?page=70)