# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 29, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729 "2013-01-29T19:01:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2013, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1381 "2013-04-01T14:52:09Z")

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In keeping with both today’s new board design and our favorite poster’s posting preferences, a YouTube link…

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/BJD_3eKcIRQ/hqdefault.jpg "How many Peeps can a 50 cal go through?") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJD_3eKcIRQ)

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**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2013, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1382 "2013-04-01T15:05:17Z")

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> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#):
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> No, dummy. I’m mocking you. Your cut and paste was a total non sequitur in regards to the request that was made of you.
> 
> Further, as a general rule, it’s probably safe for you to assume that most things that are said in your vicinity are mocking you in some fashion.

Like I said before Hentor, ad hominem is all you got. Carry on, it’s just further proof of how right I am. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2013, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1383 "2013-04-01T15:08:27Z")

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> [@jasg](#):
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> In keeping with both today’s new board design and our favorite poster’s posting preferences, a YouTube link…
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> [http://youtu.be/BJD\_3eKcIRQ](http://youtu.be/BJD_3eKcIRQ)

That’s pretty cool. Kind of reminds me of this:

[http://www.theonion.com/articles/peace-activist-has-to-admit-barrett-50-caliber-sni,234/](http://www.theonion.com/articles/peace-activist-has-to-admit-barrett-50-caliber-sni,234/)

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2013, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1384 "2013-04-01T15:10:02Z")

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> [@Kable](#):
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> Like I said before Hentor, ad hominem is all you got. Carry on, it’s just further proof of how right I am. 🙂

You need to look up what ad hominem means. Pointing out that your reply had nothing to do with what **Vinyl Turnip** asked you is not ad hominem.

Calling you a dummy is not ad hominem. Saying that people generally will mock you is not ad hominem. You appear to have confused “saying insulting things” as the definition of ad hominem.

Dummy.

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**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2013, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1385 "2013-04-01T15:58:26Z")

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> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#):
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> You need to look up what ad hominem means. Pointing out that your reply had nothing to do with what **Vinyl Turnip** asked you is not ad hominem.
> 
> Calling you a dummy is not ad hominem. Saying that people generally will mock you is not ad hominem. You appear to have confused “saying insulting things” as the definition of ad hominem.
> 
> Dummy.

Whatever pea brain.🙂

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2013, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1386 "2013-04-01T16:03:40Z")

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> [@Kable](#):
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> I’ve already told you guys several times.

Accursed fates! I seem to have missed it, and now your wisdom is forever lost in time.

Here’s a [relevant link](http://i.imgur.com/0UAGhYU.jpg).

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2013, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1387 "2013-04-01T16:15:18Z")

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> [@Kable](#):
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> Whatever pea brain.🙂

This, as an example, is not an ad hominem remark. It is a weak-ass attempt at an insult, clearly robbed of any potency by the obvious limitations of the person making it, but it is not an ad hominem remark.

It’s easy to look up definitions of things when you’re on the internet, by the way. You wouldn’t even have to ask your mom to buy a dictionary for you when she goes to the store.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2013, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1388 "2013-04-01T16:27:16Z")

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> [@Kable](#):
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> …Democrats not left enough for you?..

Nope.

> [@](#):
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> …Of course that’s the way I think, because it’s obvious. Why would you want to ban assault weapons when all the statistics show handguns are the bigger problem regarding both crime and accidents. I can think of only 2 reasons and neither of them do you want to admit…

Never said I wanted to ban assault weapons. I would very much like to educate people to the point where they didn’t want the damned things, but that is not the same thing. Except maybe to you.

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> …This time yes. Remember only one of us has experience with all these weapons and only one of us has had a home invasion happen to them…

Had my home invaded by armed men once, but they had a warrant. Turns out it was all a big mistake, thanks for your cooperation, citizen. Been mugged at gunpoint twice. They took my money, I kept my sanity.

I know there is evil in the world, way I look at it, if I live in fear of evil, evil has already won.

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> …But I at least don’t need to resort to alternative herbal remedies to boink her. How’s that ginseng working out BTW.

You seem kinda fixated on this, having mentioned it several times, apparently under the impression that I give a shit what you think. Mostly, I think Freud was a coke-addled old pervert, but in your case, he may have had a point about symbolism and compensation for inadequacy. Something you want to share with the group?

You can trust us, nobody is going to make fun of your teeny weenie issues. Nobody will call you “needledick” or “bugfucker”. OK, **Vinny** might. **Hentor**. Couple others.

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**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2013, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1389 "2013-04-01T17:21:42Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Never said I wanted to ban assault weapons. I would very much like to educate people to the point where they didn’t want the damned things, but that is not the same thing.

Really? I seem to remember you saying the assault weapon ban made sense and regular citizens should not have AR15 types of guns. That wasn’t you? Does that mean I can count on you to argue and oppose the AWB going forward?

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2013, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1390 "2013-04-01T17:30:02Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> You can trust us, nobody is going to make fun of your teeny weenie issues. Nobody will call you “needledick” or “bugfucker”. OK, **Vinny** might.

I might. As you subtly implied, subtlety is not my strong suit.

None of you may remember the 2003 blatant ripoff _The DaVinny Code_, a pulp thriller whose entire plot was revealed on the first page of the foreword, with the remainder of the book devoted to fart jokes.\* A novel so atrocious it appeared on five “worst seller” lists and inspired the creation of several dozen new ones. Sales were bleaker than expected, and the expected sales were zero.

- _Sample joke:_  
Knock, knock.  
Who’s there?  
**\<spluttering fart\>**  
\*\*Kable \*\*who?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2013, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1391 "2013-04-01T17:54:45Z")

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He does seem rather anxious to change the subject, doesn’t he? Must be a touchy issue among gun goons. I hadn’t actually heard anything like that, that gun goons were all hung like the great bull hamster.

Sure would hate to see a story like that spread, thinking that we started it here on the Dope. That would be wrong. Kinda wrong. Sorta. Totally cool, sure, but still wrong.

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**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2013, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1392 "2013-04-01T17:58:24Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> He does seem rather anxious to change the subject, doesn’t he? Must be a touchy issue among gun goons. I hadn’t actually heard anything like that, that gun goons were all hung like the great bull hamster.

Haha, just cause I’m a honkey don’t mean I’m not hung like a donkey. 🙂

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2013, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1393 "2013-04-01T18:07:15Z")

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Well, pics are pretty much the accepted standard of proof around here, you know.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2013, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1394 "2013-04-01T18:16:07Z")

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Last weeks edition of GunFAIL ([GunFAIL XI](http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/03/29/1196319/-GunFAIL-XI)) includes a link to this [nice brief summary](http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/blog/2013/mar/25/guns-protection-national-rifle-association) of gun related science from _The Guardian_. Kind of fails to support a lot of the foundation proffered by **Damuri Ajashi** and the NRA, even though it isn’t done by the dreaded CDC! If it isn’t from the CDC, I’m sure the gun-types will welcome it with open arms, right?

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**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2013, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1395 "2013-04-01T18:33:00Z")

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Really Hentor? This didn’t happen?

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/_NJQK2BscIg/hqdefault.jpg "Woman With Shotgun Kills Rapist in Self-Defense (MO)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NJQK2BscIg)

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2013, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1396 "2013-04-01T18:50:13Z")

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There we go! Now he’s back on track with the gold standard of evidence, the YouTube link! Though its kind of short and skinny compared to others, isn’t it?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1397 "2013-04-01T19:01:14Z")

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> [@](#):
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> …showed men exposed to firearms before an experiment had much higher testosterone levels…

(From the linked article)

Testosterone is linked to male pattern baldness. Guns make you lose your hair.

Granted, testosterone is widely associated with superior intelligence, but roughly half of all participants surveyed disagreed. Actually, laughed out loud.

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2013, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1398 "2013-04-01T19:13:41Z")

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> [@Kable](#):
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> Really Hentor? This didn’t happen?
> 
> [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=\_NJQK2BscIg](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NJQK2BscIg)

[Non sequitur](http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/non%20sequitur): 2. a statement (as a response) that does not follow logically from or is not clearly related to anything previously said

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**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2013, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1399 "2013-04-01T19:56:41Z")

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> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#):
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> [Non sequitur](http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/non%20sequitur): 2. a statement (as a response) that does not follow logically from or is not clearly related to anything previously said

What you didn’t read the title of you own article?

“Guns don’t offer protection – whatever the National Rifle Association says  
The insistence that guns protect people from rape and violence is not rooted in scientific reality”

But everyone knows that guns really do offer protection, which my video proves beyond a shadow of a doubt.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_fun_ball/32/17664_2.png) [@Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Fun_Ball)\
**Post date:** [April 1, 2013, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1400 "2013-04-01T19:59:24Z")

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Yeah, they sure protected this guy!

[Armed Texas DA Shot in his own home.](http://www.usatoday.com/media/cinematic/video/2041231/)

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