# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 29, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729 "2013-01-29T19:01:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![luvrbcs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@luvrbcs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/luvrbcs)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1681 "2013-04-10T15:02:37Z")

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> [@Kable](#):
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> New police poll:
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> [http://washingtonexaminer.com/huge-cop-poll-85-say-gun-control-wont-work-86-want-civilians-armed/article/2526763](http://washingtonexaminer.com/huge-cop-poll-85-say-gun-control-wont-work-86-want-civilians-armed/article/2526763)

Wow, do I feel insignificant, I post this earlier and nobody pays attention.

[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16176409&postcount=1646](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16176409&postcount=1646)

Oh well.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_fun_ball/32/17664_2.png) [@Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Fun_Ball)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1682 "2013-04-10T15:06:53Z")

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I saw it, read it, and was surprised.

Kable does not read anything unless it is part of a YouTube video.

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**Author:** ![luvrbcs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7c8e57/32.png) [@luvrbcs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/luvrbcs)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1683 "2013-04-10T15:37:56Z")

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> [@L. G. Butts](#):
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> I saw it, read it, and was surprised.
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> Kable does not read anything unless it is part of a YouTube video.

Yeah, the no comments surprised me considering the debates going around.

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**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1684 "2013-04-10T16:06:51Z")

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> [@luvrbcs](#):
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> Yeah, the no comments surprised me considering the debates going around.

Gun grabbers are the victims all about confirmational bias more than anything else. You have to throw this stuff in their face a number of times to get them to notice.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1685 "2013-04-10T16:34:55Z")

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Why, yes, of course, that explains it! Yeah. Sure. Uh-huh. You betcha!

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1686 "2013-04-10T17:22:36Z")

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> [@L. G. Butts](#):
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> Tis tragedy would never have happened if the six year old was armed. There would be less crimes like this if the four year old knew there was a good chance he would be shot by a concealed carry holder before he decided to commit his thuggery. When are Americans going to wake up and realize that the more people are armed and can protect themselves, the fewer times will we have to confront this type of victimization?

This is why I punch every 4 year old I see in the face and run for it, before they can shoot me. They won’t let me back in the daycare center anymore but its worth it because I’m safe!

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1687 "2013-04-10T17:50:06Z")

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> [@luvrbcs](#):
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> Yeah, the no comments surprised me considering the debates going around.

I’ve heard this statistic somewhere before (and I presume most gun rights advocates already know this) and I think the gun control side would rather ignore it.

I think it would be helpful to see if cops felt that licensing and registration would be helpful. The cops I know would rather have more mandatory training and a good way to keep track of firearms than get rid of a small subset of firearms.

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1688 "2013-04-10T20:44:27Z")

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I like this one:

[**NRA Says Background Checks Will Not Prevent Shootings**](http://www.myfoxphilly.com/story/21932298/nra-says-background-checks-will-not-prevent-shootings)

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> …The NRA’s statement says, “Expanding background checks at gun shows will not prevent the next shooting, will not solve violent crime and will not keep our kids safe in schools.”
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> The association cites America’s “broken mental health system” as the cause of the tragedies, and says the situation will not be fixed by more background checks at gun shows. It further added that background checks could not have prevented the disasters in Newtown, Aurora, or Tucson…

Because of America’s “broken mental health system,” every nut has a right to get a gun. Makes sense to me.

Obviously the minimum age for admiring a gun should be 4 and over. That is till the 3 year old start bitching…

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1689 "2013-04-10T20:53:57Z")

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On a more serious note, here’s how background checks would – or wouldn’t – change many of those horrible mass shootings:

[**How Many Shootings Would the Senate’s Background Check Deal Have Prevented?**](http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2013/04/mass-shootings-background-checks-charts/64097/)

I say one life saved would be enough. But what do I know? Never been a cowboy…

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**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2013, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1690 "2013-04-10T21:57:19Z")

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The flip side is that some small percentage would be denied the ability to buy a gun due to false positives. IMO, it’s unacceptable when we do it to voters and we should take the same precautions here given that gun ownership is currently viewed by SCOTUS as an individual right.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1691 "2013-04-11T01:07:11Z")

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As far as I can tell, News 4 in Charleston is not a parody site. I had to check twice after reading [this story](http://www.abcnews4.com/story/21931773/deputies-pig-shot-in-drive-by?hpt=ju_bn4) of a man who shot a pet pig. After plugging the Piggly Wiggly mascot, he was going to take it to a butcher, because:

“The way I grew up, when you shoot something, you eat it. I mean, that’s the way I was raised.”

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**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1692 "2013-04-11T01:47:00Z")

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> [@RedFury](#):
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> On a more serious note, here’s how background checks would – or wouldn’t – change many of those horrible mass shootings:
> 
> [**How Many Shootings Would the Senate’s Background Check Deal Have Prevented?**](http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2013/04/mass-shootings-background-checks-charts/64097/)
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> I say one life saved would be enough. But what do I know? Never been a cowboy…

Interesting read. Sounds to me like the link is admitting the proposed background checks wouldn’t save very many lives at all, but they want them anyway.

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**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1693 "2013-04-11T01:53:10Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> As far as I can tell, News 4 in Charleston is not a parody site. I had to check twice after reading [this story](http://www.abcnews4.com/story/21931773/deputies-pig-shot-in-drive-by?hpt=ju_bn4) of a man who shot a pet pig. After plugging the Piggly Wiggly mascot, he was going to take it to a butcher, because:
> 
> “The way I grew up, when you shoot something, you eat it. I mean, that’s the way I was raised.”

Piggly Wiggly get’s upset about the murder of their pardoned pig, but their website has all these recipes for pork?

[http://www.pigglywiggly.com/recipes/Pork](http://www.pigglywiggly.com/recipes/Pork)

What a bunch of hypocrites.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1694 "2013-04-11T01:57:42Z")

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**Kable** demands stronger regulations and stricter controls, because this law “wouldn’t save very many lives…”. Film at eleven, YouTube, natch.

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**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1695 "2013-04-11T02:14:01Z")

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More good news!

Poll: Most Americans Disapprove of Obama on Guns

> **[Poll: Most Americans Disapprove of Obama on Guns](https://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/04/poll-most-americans-disapprove-of-obama-on-guns/)**
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> Most Americans disapprove of how President Obama has handled gun-policy issues

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1696 "2013-04-11T02:28:57Z")

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> [@Kable](#):
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> Piggly Wiggly get’s upset about the murder of their pardoned pig, but their website has all these recipes for pork?
> 
> [http://www.pigglywiggly.com/recipes/Pork](http://www.pigglywiggly.com/recipes/Pork)
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> What a bunch of hypocrites.

Brilliant. When you want a pork chop do you go shoot your neighbor’s pet? This isn’t about where meat comes from, you dope.

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**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1697 "2013-04-11T02:45:03Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> Brilliant. When you want a pork chop do you go shoot your neighbor’s pet? This isn’t about where meat comes from, you dope.

I wouldn’t shoot my neighbor’s pet, but either it’s wrong to eat pigs or it isn’t. From the pigs perspective I can’t think of any good reason why the death and consumption of one pig is more or less moral than another. Aside from property rights I can’t think any difference from a human perspective either.

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**Author:** ![filmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7993a0/32.png) [@filmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filmore)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1698 "2013-04-11T02:55:18Z")

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> [@RedFury](#):
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> On a more serious note, here’s how background checks would – or wouldn’t – change many of those horrible mass shootings:
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> [**How Many Shootings Would the Senate’s Background Check Deal Have Prevented?**](http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2013/04/mass-shootings-background-checks-charts/64097/)
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> I say one life saved would be enough. But what do I know? Never been a cowboy…

Mass shootings are a very small part of gun deaths. Expanded background checks could have a larger effect if it can keep guns away from people who shouldn’t have them.

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1699 "2013-04-11T04:10:56Z")

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> [@RedFury](#):
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> On a more serious note, here’s how background checks would – or wouldn’t – change many of those horrible mass shootings:
> 
> [**How Many Shootings Would the Senate’s Background Check Deal Have Prevented?**](http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2013/04/mass-shootings-background-checks-charts/64097/)
> 
> I say one life saved would be enough. But what do I know? Never been a cowboy…

The purpose of background check legislation isnt to stop mass murders, that objective is virtually impossible to achieve. It is to reduce the over 30, 000 other gun deaths (particularly the over 10,000 gun murders) we see every year. If we were really serious about making a differnece rather than making a point, we would see a push for licensing and registration instead of a magazine cap amd an AWB.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1700 "2013-04-11T04:44:18Z")

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> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> If we were really serious about making a differnece rather than making a point, we would see a push for licensing and registration instead of a magazine cap amd an AWB.

I agree.

I imagine this would be reeeeeally easy to sell to the NRA, and their political party of choice right?

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