# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 29, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729 "2013-01-29T19:01:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 88
**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1741 "2013-04-11T19:40:23Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Did it look like a wild pig? Did he have the proper pig hunting permits? Does he have the right to just take what clearly wasn’t his? Why is the law protecting gun rights so important to you, yet the laws protecting personal property, not so much? Seems like you play pretty fast a loose with the rights of others, while jealously guarding your own. As I said I don’t know the local laws but escaped hogs do become feral quickly and are known to do a lot of damage. “As of 2008, the estimated population of 4 million feral pigs caused an estimated US$800 million of property damage per year in the U.S.[66] The problematic nature of feral hogs has caused several states in the U.S. to declare feral hogs to be an invasive species. Often, these states will have greatly reduced (or even non-existent) hunting regulations regarding feral hogs. In Missouri, no hunting permit is required for the taking of wild boar; hunters may take as many as they like with any weapon. The Missouri Department of Conservation requests that hunters who encounter feral hogs shoot them on sight.” > **[Wild boar](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wild_boar#Feral_pigs)** > > The wild boar (Sus scrofa), also known as the wild swine, common wild pig, Eurasian wild pig, or simply wild pig, is a suid native to much of Eurasia and North Africa, and has been introduced to the Americas and Oceania. The species is now one of the widest-ranging mammals in the world, as well as the most widespread suiform. It has been assessed as least concern on the IUCN Red List due to its wide range, high numbers, and adaptability to a diversity of habitats. It has become As of 2005\[u... Ignorance fought. You’re welcome.🙂 ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1742 "2013-04-11T19:40:30Z")
> [@](#): > > Didn’t read the article, huh? Lips tire easily. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1743 "2013-04-11T19:42:35Z")
“Igjorance fraught.” There. Fixed that for you. ---
**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1744 "2013-04-11T19:51:00Z")
> [@Ca3799](#): > > Didn’t read the article, huh? No I read the article, it was funny. What safety rule did he break? What law? He was cited for “malicious injury to animals” but I’m not sure that will hold up in court, but as I said I don’t know the local laws. ---
**Author:** ![Ca3799](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9f8e36/32.png) [@Ca3799](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ca3799)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1745 "2013-04-11T19:56:36Z")
So weird because in my previous post I noted about how he was cited for an illegal discharge of a firearm and will pay and $1,100 fine. So you read neither the article or my post, but just can’t keep defending the irresponsible gun owner. It’s almost like you are some kind of a gun nut who won’t read anything critical of your position. ---
**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1746 "2013-04-11T20:01:39Z")
> [@Ca3799](#): > > So weird because in my previous post I noted about how he was cited for an illegal discharge of a firearm and will pay and $1,100 fine. Where does the article say that? Oh wait, you’re the one who didn’t read the article, or at least you don’t recall it so well. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1747 "2013-04-11T20:21:22Z")
Apparently, shooting and killing pet pigs is more common that you might have thought: [Florida](http://www.local10.com/news/Police-Florida-Man-Kills-Eats-Neighbor-s-Pet-Pig/-/1717324/3077436/-/aoy9svz/-/index.html) [Florida again](http://www.wfla.com/story/21193294/man-kills-pig-neighbor-says-it-was-her-pet) [Florida - again!](http://www.wfla.com/story/21193294/man-kills-pig-neighbor-says-it-was-her-pet) What the hell is up with Florida? You guys seem to really hate pet pigs. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1748 "2013-04-11T20:25:02Z")
Here’s a guy who shot a dangerous dog, because he was afraid. [It was a Chihuahua.](http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/man-shoots-kills-chihuahua-defense-article-1.1308427) Prolly thought it was going to start talking, like in the movie. Hey **Kable** : Thanks for alertiing us watch out for stupid gun news involving people shooting tiny pets. ---
**Author:** ![filmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7993a0/32.png) [@filmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filmore)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1749 "2013-04-11T20:27:01Z")
> [@Kable](#): > > As I said I don’t know the local laws but escaped hogs do become feral quickly and are known to do a lot of damage. Non sequitur. No where in the article did it say anything that Ashmore was trying to prevent the pig from going feral. The pig was so docile it stayed in the same place long enough for him to go home and get his gun. He even said he would have caught it if he knew it was someone’s pet. Does Ashmore also kill random cats and dogs he sees to prevent them from going feral? ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1750 "2013-04-11T20:43:06Z")
> [@Kable](#): > > As I said I don’t know the local laws but escaped hogs do become feral quickly and are known to do a lot of damage. Have you ever seen a feral pig? Did the pig in question look like a feral pig? ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1751 "2013-04-11T20:49:30Z")
> [@filmore](#): > > Non sequitur. > > No where in the article did it say anything that Ashmore was trying to prevent the pig from going feral. The pig was so docile it stayed in the same place long enough for him to go home and get his gun. He even said he would have caught it if he knew it was someone’s pet. Does Ashmore also kill random cats and dogs he sees to prevent them from going feral? Well then… What if this pig had grown up to be HITLER PIG? What then, huh? Maybe Ashmore was just trying to save us from a world dominated by a super-race of mutant Nazi super pigs! Ever thought of that, smart guy? ---
**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1752 "2013-04-11T20:55:34Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Have you ever seen a feral pig? Did the pig in question look like a feral pig? The pig looked like good eating. I could see you all being outraged if you were vegetarians, but sounds like none of you are. You guys really care that much about one pig? Escaped pigs become feral readily, or so I am told. “Domestic pigs can escape and quite readily become feral, and feral populations are problematic in several ways.” It’s from the wiki article I already posted. You can lead a horse to water… ---
**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1753 "2013-04-11T21:00:55Z")
> [@filmore](#): > > No where in the article did it say anything that Ashmore was trying to prevent the pig from going feral. The pig was so docile it stayed in the same place long enough for him to go home and get his gun. He even said he would have caught it if he knew it was someone’s pet. Does Ashmore also kill random cats and dogs he sees to prevent them from going feral? Well, I think he shot it cause he wanted to eat it. Pigs are bread to be eaten in this country, not so much dogs and cats. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1754 "2013-04-11T21:05:57Z")
> [@Kable](#): > > Escaped pigs become feral readily, or so I am told. And they readily take on the appearance of a [feral pig](https://www.google.com/search?q=feral+pig&num=50&safe=off&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=1SJnUfHfDdG-4AOKroHgBQ&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAQ&biw=1066&bih=511), which this pig could not have. You are defending the theft of a pig that was clearly domesticated, not feral. He who takes what isn’t his’n, goes to court and then to prison. ---
**Author:** ![filmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7993a0/32.png) [@filmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filmore)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1755 "2013-04-11T21:06:17Z")
> [@Kable](#): > > Escaped pigs become feral readily, or so I am told. > > “Domestic pigs can escape and quite readily become feral, and feral populations are problematic in several ways.” > > It’s from the wiki article I already posted. You can lead a horse to water… Non sequitur . The future feral-ness of the pig did not factor into to Ashmore’s actions. Here’s more non sequiturs: Ashmore shot the pig because: - pigs can carry diseases that make people sick - pigs can charge a person and kill them - pigs can sit on a person’s face and suffocate them - pigs can tear up flower gardens - … Posting links about feral hogs is irrelevant since Ashmore never gave that as a motivation for shooting the pig. And even if he was worried about the pig going feral, he should have instead caught it and returned it to the owner. That’s the responsible way to prevent it from going feral. > [@Kable](#): > > Well, I think he shot it cause he wanted to eat it. Pigs are bred to be eaten in this country, not so much dogs and cats. Then stop bringing up nonsense about feral hogs. Even you don’t think he was concerned about the hog going feral. ---
**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1756 "2013-04-11T21:14:31Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > And they readily take on the appearance of a [feral pig](https://www.google.com/search?q=feral+pig&num=50&safe=off&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=1SJnUfHfDdG-4AOKroHgBQ&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAQ&biw=1066&bih=511), which this pig could not have. You are defending the theft of a pig that was clearly domesticated, not feral. He who takes what isn’t his’n, goes to court and then to prison. A domestic pig that becomes feral does not look like a wild boar. Good try though, and domestic pigs are typically bread for eating. You really care that much about a pig? ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1757 "2013-04-11T21:14:53Z")
The fucking pig isn’t even the issue, no matter how delicious it looked. The issue is the asshole with the gun who thinks he can go around shooting whatever he pleases. ---
**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1758 "2013-04-11T21:17:25Z")
> [@filmore](#): > > Even you don’t think he was concerned about the hog going feral. No I think he shot it cause he wanted to eat it. Why are you so concerned about one pig? ---
**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1759 "2013-04-11T21:21:58Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > The fucking pig isn’t even the issue, no matter how delicious it looked. The issue is the asshole with the gun who thinks he can go around shooting whatever he pleases. Well he shot a pig with plans to eat it. That’s what those pigs are bread for. ---
**Author:** ![filmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7993a0/32.png) [@filmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filmore)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1760 "2013-04-11T21:26:03Z")
> [@Kable](#): > > No I think he shot it cause he wanted to eat it. Why are you so concerned about one pig? I never said I was concerned about the pig. If you think he shot it because he wanted to eat it, why are you posting facts about feral hogs? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729.md?page=87) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729.md?page=89)