# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 29, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729 "2013-01-29T19:01:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1761 "2013-04-11T21:34:36Z")

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> [@Kable](#):
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> That’s what those pigs are bread for.

Pigs are not bread. They are mostly bacon.

And Hitler.

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**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1762 "2013-04-11T21:47:03Z")

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> [@filmore](#):
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> I never said I was concerned about the pig.

So what are you concerned about then?

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**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1763 "2013-04-11T21:49:57Z")

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> [@Kable](#):
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> So what are you concerned about then?

How about the owner of the pig. It was his property and his pet that was killed. Do you have any concern at all about his rights? Or are guns your only concern? It seems like you care more about guns than people. Kind of sociopathic if you ask me.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1764 "2013-04-11T21:55:21Z")

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> [@Airbeck](#):
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> It seems like you care more about guns than people.

And bread. He’s concerned about bread for some strange reason. Either bread made out of pigs, or pigs made into bread shapes. Either way, it’s sort of creepy.

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**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1765 "2013-04-11T21:56:16Z")

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The Op’er asked for stupid gun stories.

[The N.R.A.](http://abcnews.go.com/US/year-shot-playmate-critical-condition/story?id=18913811#.UWcv-4LahJE) [has had a very very proud week.](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/09/josephine-fanning-dead-shooting_n_3042312.html). More and more American Children making good use of their God-given 2nd Amendment Rights.

Oh, the joy the N.R.A. Board of Directors must be feeling. The swelling pride. America’s Youth !! A glorious and righteous time to be sure. I wonder, do they have quotas? Are they satisfied if, say, 10 children under the age of 12 murder other people in a year? 20? Curious, so curious, what the quotas are. Either way, one just must admit- a banner month for Gun Crusaders in America.

There’s some fuckin’ stupid gun stories for ya.

Incredible… :mad:

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**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1766 "2013-04-11T21:57:44Z")

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> [@Airbeck](#):
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> How about the owner of the pig. It was his property and his pet that was killed. Do you have any concern at all about his rights? Or are guns your only concern? It seems like you care more about guns than people. Kind of sociopathic if you ask me.

No I talked about property rights already, see:

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> I wouldn’t shoot my neighbor’s pet, but either it’s wrong to eat pigs or it isn’t. From the pigs perspective I can’t think of any good reason why the death and consumption of one pig is more or less moral than another. Aside from property rights I can’t think any difference from a human perspective either.

However the guy wasn’t cited for theft or poaching and the gist I got from the article was that it’s morally wrong to kill a pet pig, that wasn’t obviously a pet.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1767 "2013-04-11T22:01:46Z")

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It’s OK to[blow a chihuahua away](http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2013/04/05/Chihuahua-shot-to-death-no-charges/UPI-99621365184744/) though right? Cause those little yappy buggers can really get on your nerves. I mean, as the article says, the fuckin’ thing actually barked at him!

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**Author:** ![CannyDan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cannydan/32/548_2.png) [@CannyDan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CannyDan)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1768 "2013-04-11T22:05:24Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Apparently, shooting and killing pet pigs is more common that you might have thought:
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> [Florida](http://www.local10.com/news/Police-Florida-Man-Kills-Eats-Neighbor-s-Pet-Pig/-/1717324/3077436/-/aoy9svz/-/index.html)
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> [Florida again](http://www.wfla.com/story/21193294/man-kills-pig-neighbor-says-it-was-her-pet)
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> [Florida - again!](http://www.wfla.com/story/21193294/man-kills-pig-neighbor-says-it-was-her-pet)
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> What the hell is up with Florida? You guys seem to really hate pet pigs.

Hate them?!?!?! Hell no, we \*love \*them! Bar-b-cued, smoked, or roasted. Call me when the cookin’ is done.

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**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1769 "2013-04-11T22:07:35Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> It’s OK to[blow a chihuahua away](http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2013/04/05/Chihuahua-shot-to-death-no-charges/UPI-99621365184744/) though right? Cause those little yappy buggers can really get on your nerves. I mean, as the article says, the fuckin’ thing actually barked at him!

I would have expected that to be illegal. Go figure.

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1770 "2013-04-11T22:08:29Z")

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[Here’s a fine father,](http://www.upi.com/blog/2013/03/25/Father-kills-son-self-wounds-wife-during-heated-custody-argument/4001364221564/?rel=7571365611793) who fatally shot his 2 year old son, while in a rage during an argument. Good thing he had that gun handy to defend himself when he blew his top!

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1771 "2013-04-11T22:09:32Z")

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> [@Kable](#):
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> I would have expected that to be illegal. Go figure.

Probably would have been illegal to kick it. Because of the love of gun culture though, it’s OK to blow it away with your fetish object. Right on a public sidewalk too, with people around! Who gives a shit! It’s his right to blow away anything he does not like! Ya!

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**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1772 "2013-04-11T22:09:35Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> [Here’s a fine father,](http://www.upi.com/blog/2013/03/25/Father-kills-son-self-wounds-wife-during-heated-custody-argument/4001364221564/?rel=7571365611793) who fatally shot his 2 year old son, while in a rage during an argument. Good thing he had that gun handy to defend himself when he blew his top!

I agree it should be illegal to shoot your kids.

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**Author:** ![filmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7993a0/32.png) [@filmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filmore)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1773 "2013-04-11T22:10:09Z")

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> [@Kable](#):
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> However the guy wasn’t cited for theft or poaching and the gist I got from the article was that it’s morally wrong to kill a pet pig, that wasn’t obviously a pet.

The morally correct thing to do is to evaluate the situation before ending a life. Ashmore didn’t make any attempt to determine who owned the pig, what it was doing there, and if it posed a threat.

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**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1774 "2013-04-11T22:10:37Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Probably would have been illegal to kick it. Because of the love of gun culture though, it’s OK to blow it away with your fetish object.

In Detroit no less.

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**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1775 "2013-04-11T22:11:55Z")

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> [@filmore](#):
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> The morally correct thing to do is to evaluate the situation before ending a life.

Do you do that every time you eat meat?

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1776 "2013-04-11T22:14:27Z")

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Have we had this one yet, of a Lynchburg police officer [accidentally shooting his colleague](http://www.wset.com/story/21947054/police-lynchburg-officer-was-accidentaly-shot-by-another-officer)? It’s hard to keep up.

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**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1777 "2013-04-11T22:16:06Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Have we had this one yet, of a Lynchburg police officer [accidentally shooting his colleague](http://www.wset.com/story/21947054/police-lynchburg-officer-was-accidentaly-shot-by-another-officer)? It’s hard to keep up.

So what’s your suggestion to prevent that? Disarm the police?

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1778 "2013-04-11T22:16:18Z")

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> [@Kable](#):
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> I agree it should be illegal to shoot your kids.

It’s stupid gun news. Do try to keep up.

Anyway, he was a law abiding citizen with a right to a gun. Right up until when he shot his family. Then he was a bad guy. Good thing he had the gun to protect his family though!

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1779 "2013-04-11T22:17:18Z")

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> [@Kable](#):
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> So what’s your suggestion to prevent that? Disarm the police?

More guns. It’s the one-size solution that fits all.

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**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\
**Post date:** [April 11, 2013, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1780 "2013-04-11T22:21:01Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> More guns. It’s the one-size solution that fits all.

Hey, we agree. More training too I think.

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