# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 29, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729 "2013-01-29T19:01:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 91
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2013, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1801 "2013-04-12T12:56:34Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > The fucking pig isn’t even the issue, no matter how delicious it looked. The issue is the asshole with the gun who thinks he can go around shooting whatever he pleases. > [@Kable](#): > > Well he shot a pig with plans to eat it. That’s what those pigs are bread for. > [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > Seriously. I can only assume you are mentally challenged at this point. The fact that you are focusing solely on the deliciousness of swine, especially in response to, “the pig isn’t the issue,” is truly mind-numbing. Why even post here? Go have a retarded conversation with yourself if you don’t want to pay attention to the conversation. > > Every second you post here is a second taken away from rubbing your guns on your balls, you know. Can’t be very satisfying for you. > [@Kable](#): > > To you personally Jack Batty, what’s the issue? > [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > Throw me a bone here. Smoke signals? Semi-fore? Latin? What do you need? Give me a fighting chance. > [@Kable](#): > > So what, you think people should be able to slaughter pigs with a hammer but not use a gun? Okay. Who’s the asshole who loaded up this retarded ELIZA-chatbot program anyway? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2013, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1802 "2013-04-12T13:12:12Z")
> [@Kable](#): > > So what, you think people should be able to slaughter pigs with a hammer but not use a gun? Wow. We’re pitching you softballs and not only are you swinging and missing, you’re not even in the batter’s box. In fact you seem to be in the parking lot. Let me give you a hint: if he’d killed the pig with a hammer, we’d still have the same problem. Normal people don’t just kill random animals they find by the side of the road, especially domesticated animals. “I saw the pig there, I didn’t see anyone else around, so I shot it” is not the thought process of a responsible gun owner (or responsible person in general). That we kill and eat _other_ pigs is entirely irrelevant. We are not starting a “Save The Pigs” movement (well, not in this thread anyway). It’s about the person’s cluelessness about the appropriate response when faced with a random pig. And now it’s about yours as well. ---
**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2013, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1803 "2013-04-12T13:15:31Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Normal people don’t just kill random animals they find by the side of the road, especially domesticated animals. This particular pig, what was his breed domesticated for? ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2013, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1804 "2013-04-12T13:21:32Z")
> [@Kable](#): > > Great, I’m in favor of gun safety. So lets look at that example you gave of one cop shooting his partner. I can’t think of any regulations that would prevent that. So what’s your suggestion? What! What? You’re so stupid you don’t even know the four prime directives of responsible gun ownership? What a moron! Sheesh! Everyone knows that a responsible gun owner never, ever points his or her weapon at something they don’t intend to shoot. Never, ever even for a moment. You don’t need regulations for gun safety. There are four simple rules that take care of everything. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2013, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1805 "2013-04-12T13:26:59Z")
> [@Kable](#): > > This particular pig, what was his breed domesticated for? Chorus-line dancing. What difference does it make? It wasn’t a wild animal, it wasn’t his and it wasn’t threatening anyone. Of all your dead-end arguments this may be the most deadest. If you had the least sense of self-awareness you’d understand that someone who’d GRAB HIS GUN right off the bat and shoot a living thing that wasn’t his property is exactly the sort of idiot you’d want to distance yourself from. But no, you’re defending him, because you and he are of like minds. Like, not very good ones. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2013, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1806 "2013-04-12T13:34:51Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > You don’t need regulations for gun safety. There are four simple rules that take care of everything. Hell, that’s four less than to date John Ritter’s daughter. ---
**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2013, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1807 "2013-04-12T13:39:35Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > What! What? You’re so stupid you don’t even know the four prime directives of responsible gun ownership? What a moron! > > Sheesh! Everyone knows that a responsible gun owner never, ever points his or her weapon at something they don’t intend to shoot. Never, ever even for a moment. > > You don’t need regulations for gun safety. There are four simple rules that take care of everything. OK, so were in agreement. Train the guys to better follow the safety rules, but no new laws are necessary. You have come a long way Hentor. ---
**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2013, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1808 "2013-04-12T13:43:42Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Chorus-line dancing. What difference does it make? It wasn’t a wild animal, it wasn’t his and it wasn’t threatening anyone. Of all your dead-end arguments this may be the most deadest. If you had the least sense of self-awareness you’d understand that someone who’d GRAB HIS GUN right off the bat and shoot a living thing that wasn’t his property is exactly the sort of idiot you’d want to distance yourself from. But no, you’re defending him, because you and he are of like minds. Like, not very good ones. OK, well I did just check and South Carolina does have a feral pig problem and hunters are allowed to pretty much shoot them on sight. See: [http://www.dnr.sc.gov/news/yr2010/june28/june28\_pig.html](http://www.dnr.sc.gov/news/yr2010/june28/june28_pig.html) And I suspect you city boys to cry that this was a domestic pig, but as I already cited from wiki, you let a domestic pig loose and he turns feral. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2013, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1809 "2013-04-12T13:44:12Z")
Winning! ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2013, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1810 "2013-04-12T13:58:31Z")
> [@Kable](#): > > And I suspect you city boys to cry that this was a domestic pig, but as I already cited from wiki, you let a domestic pig loose and he turns feral. Immediately. Like the moment you drive a new car off the dealer’s lot. ---
**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2013, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1811 "2013-04-12T14:09:46Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > Immediately. Like the moment you drive a new car off the dealer’s lot. Hey, that’s a good one!😃 ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2013, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1812 "2013-04-12T14:20:34Z")
In South Carolina are you legally required to shout “He’s coming right for us!” before you shoot something, or is that just a Colorado thing? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2013, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1813 "2013-04-12T14:23:29Z")
Only if you are a “city boy”. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2013, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1814 "2013-04-12T14:27:43Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Only if you are a “city boy”. As long as I don’t have to squeal like a pig. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2013, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1815 "2013-04-12T14:32:45Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > As long as I don’t have to squeal like a pig. Well, do you have a real purdy mouth? ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2013, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1816 "2013-04-12T15:33:23Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > They’re GRABBING them. Get your terminology straight, or friend **Kable** might have a fit. > **[Urban Dictionary: Gun Grabber](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Gun%20Grabber)** > > None Seems like the term is being used in at least one of its commonly understood meanings. > [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > You know, you’re right - some of my examples were not good ones of “stupid gun news”. They were more appropriately “regular ordinary run-of-the-mill gun news that happens all the time” > > Which is, if anything more tragic if you think about it. Yes, but there is little to make fun of when some guy kills his kid on purpose. Its simply tragedy and if we want to have a thread with all the tragic gun deaths every day then we would get about 2500 posts a month with no commentary whatsoever. > [@Gyrate](#): > > In South Carolina are you legally required to shout “He’s coming right for us!” before you shoot something, or is that just a Colorado thing? Around here you have to scream, look he’s got a gun… then you put a hi point in the pig’s mouth after you shoot it. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2013, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1817 "2013-04-12T15:46:22Z")
> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > [Urban Dictionary: Gun Grabber](http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Gun%20Grabber) > > Seems like the term is being used in at least one of its commonly understood meanings. I never said that “gun grabber” was not commonly understood. It is. It is a term commonly used by folks that have put little thought into a complex situation, and reduce any attempt at harm reduction to the simple phrase “GUN GRABBER!” It is a tip-off that the person in question cannot engage in thoughtful dialogue, and is one of those types that froth at the mouth on streetcorners. Note that this does not include you - I am contrasting your more reasoned discourse with others who post here. > [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#): > > Yes, but there is little to make fun of when some guy kills his kid on purpose. Its simply tragedy and if we want to have a thread with all the tragic gun deaths every day then we would get about 2500 posts a month with no commentary whatsoever. And **THAT** is the major tragedy. There are an astounding number of gun accidents, injuries, homicides, and suicides. It’s a symptom of the country’s historical (and almost pathological IMHO) attachment to objects designed to kill. ---
**Author:** ![filmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7993a0/32.png) [@filmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filmore)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2013, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1818 "2013-04-12T16:44:06Z")
> [@Kable](#): > > OK, so were in agreement. Train the guys to better follow the safety rules, but no new laws are necessary. You have come a long way Hentor. Agreed! Mandatory, extensive, difficult, periodic and legally required training would go a long way to reducing gun deaths. At a minimum, it would filter out all the gun yahoos who aren’t responsible enough to own a gun in the first place. And regular training would ensure that gun owners are more likely to act responsibly. ---
**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2013, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1819 "2013-04-12T16:54:23Z")
> [@filmore](#): > > Agreed! Mandatory, extensive, difficult, periodic and legally required training would go a long way to reducing gun deaths. Yeah, and lets do so of every child in America, in public schools. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 12, 2013, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1820 "2013-04-12T16:57:51Z")
They don’t listen in history class, they don’t listen in math class, but you think they will listen in gun safety class. Right. Sure thing. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729.md?page=90) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729.md?page=92)