# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 29, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729 "2013-01-29T19:01:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 94
**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2013, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1861 "2013-04-13T13:22:57Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > I have to lower myself to your level when a YouTube video just isn’t enough. Have you checked your testosterone count lately. You are probably running low. ---
**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2013, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1862 "2013-04-13T13:25:46Z")
Another home invader shot and killed. > **[Police: Home intruder shot, killed at Charlotte apartment](https://myfox8.com/news/police-home-intruder-shot-killed-at-charlotte-apartment/)** > > CHARLOTTE, N.C. — Police said they are investigating after a home intruder was shot and killed while trying to force his way into a Charlotte apartment. WBTV reported that the shooting happened aro… ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2013, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1863 "2013-04-13T13:38:49Z")
> [@Kable](#): > > Have you checked your testosterone count lately. You are probably running low. He doesn’t seem to be the one petrified of the world and scared that his amulet is going to be taken away. He hasn’t created a delusion of being attacked by a 2x4 to justify his congenital pants-filling insecurity. ---
**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2013, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1864 "2013-04-13T14:02:51Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > He doesn’t seem to be the one petrified of the world and scared that his amulet is going to be taken away. > > He hasn’t created a delusion of being attacked by a 2x4 to justify his congenital pants-filling insecurity. Delusion? Oh yeah, you think all defensive gun uses are delusions. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2013, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1865 "2013-04-13T14:05:23Z")
Ah, so you agree, then? Good, that is progress. ---
**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2013, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1866 "2013-04-13T14:13:40Z")
Nice try elucidator. Hey when I think of low testosterone levels, I think of you. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2013, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1867 "2013-04-13T14:20:57Z")
I hunt grizzly bear with a baseball bat. If I were to trim my pubes, I’d need a tin snips. Chuck Norris called me “hippy” once, now he calls me “Sir”. Only hamster-hung nancy boys like you need a gun. ---
**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2013, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1868 "2013-04-13T14:23:53Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > I hunt grizzly bear with a baseball bat. If I were to trim my pubes, I’d need a tin snips. Chuck Norris called me “hippy” once, now he calls me “Sir”. Only hamster-hung nancy boys like you need a gun. All that and you need ginseng to help get it up? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2013, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1869 "2013-04-13T14:29:41Z")
What’s the matter, didn’t work? ---
**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2013, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1870 "2013-04-13T14:31:26Z")
[a good selection of stupid gun stories fom across the nation.](http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/04/05/1198090/-GunFAIL-XII?showAll=yes) ---
**Author:** ![Cartooniverse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cartooniverse/32/3084_2.png) [@Cartooniverse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cartooniverse)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2013, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1871 "2013-04-13T14:46:41Z")
[And more yet.](http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/04/12/1199518/-GunFAIL-XIII?showAll=yes). Nobody else is seeing a pattern here??? ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2013, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1872 "2013-04-13T14:53:05Z")
> [@Kable](#): > > Delusion? Oh yeah, you think all defensive gun uses are delusions. Nope. Actual ones happen, and they are good examples of why people should have the option of reasonable self-defense with firearms. Yours is just a made up story because you’re a pussy. 2x4? What, were you in the midst of home renovation? Or did this invader - who had bipolar disorder but who was also infatuated with the girlfriend who has appeared in later versions of the story - bring his own 2x4 as his selected weapon? ---
**Author:** ![Ca3799](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9f8e36/32.png) [@Ca3799](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ca3799)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2013, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1873 "2013-04-13T16:40:32Z")
> [@Kable](#): > > I wasn’t commenting on ownership, I was commenting on when to start teaching them safe gun handling. I started learning it when I was 9 and got my fist BB gun, and the rule that if I pointed it at anyone it would be taken away. I took my game and fish gun safety course when I was 14 and got my first rifle. If this education were made available to everyone it would save lives. But of course the goal of anti-gunners isn’t to save lives but rather ban guns cause they are scary. But I was commenting on age of ownership. So, what is the age requirement to own a gun? ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2013, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1874 "2013-04-13T17:05:36Z")
> [@Ca3799](#): > > Somebody’s gonna have to convince me on the wisdom of allowing 10 year olds to have guns in the first place. > > Drinking age? Check. > Driving age? Check. > Voting age? Check. > Gun ownership age? Not necessary! In Minnesota the age to legally own a gun is 18. Minors can “possess” (hold, shoot) a firearm “under the direct supervision of the person’s parent or guardian”. > [@elucidator](#): > > I hunt grizzly bear with a baseball bat. If I were to trim my pubes, I’d need a tin snips. Chuck Norris called me “hippy” once, now he calls me “Sir”. Only hamster-hung nancy boys like you need a gun. I carry a gun so I don’t have to be a “tough guy”. It’s for being left alone, or coping with anyone stupid/ insane/ high enough to think they’re ninjas. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2013, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1875 "2013-04-13T17:16:01Z")
Carrying a weapon makes you a better person? Damn, where did you start from? Does the stinger on a scorpion make it more cuddly? ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2013, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1876 "2013-04-13T17:33:02Z")
> [@Kable](#): > > Another home invader shot and killed. > > [http://myfox8.com/2013/04/07/police-home-intruder-shot-killed-at-charlotte-apartment/](http://myfox8.com/2013/04/07/police-home-intruder-shot-killed-at-charlotte-apartment/) > [@](#): > > Charlotte-Mecklenburg homicide investigators said the intruder was shot after struggling over a weapon with the man who lived there. > > Authorities said the apartment resident suffered a minor gunshot wound to the hand. Sounds like it was a toss-up as to who ended up dead from the homeowner’s gun, which I assume was the only gun present in this case. More of a brush with death than a shining example of the protection afforded by firearms, no? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2013, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1877 "2013-04-13T18:26:08Z")
Is there an accepted definition of “home invasion”? Always seemed to me it would apply to an armed incursion into the home, to terrorize, rob and/or rape. Like Germany “invaded” Poland, didn’t sneak in, steal some potato pancakes, and tip-toe away. So, a guy sneaks in to the house with no weapon, hoping to steal something and get away unnoticed. That’s a “home invasion”, then? And if you shoot the dumb sumbitch, that’s “self defense”? Even if the guy flees when he hears you, trying to get away, and you shoot him, that’s also “self-defense”? Does that not, essentially, make burglary a capital crime, with the sentence adjudicated and executed by someone not legally entitled to make such a determination? Strikes me as a very exaggerated view of the value of property. I don’t own anything worth killing somebody to keep, just like you don’t own anything worth killing you to take. ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2013, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1878 "2013-04-13T19:12:26Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > Carrying a weapon makes you a better person? Damn, where did you start from? Does the stinger on a scorpion make it more cuddly? It’s a deterrent. You do know that the point of a deterrent is to not be the one to go first (and hopefully not be the one to go second either)? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2013, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1879 "2013-04-13T19:58:56Z")
But its “concealed carry”, no? So, by that measure, its not so much a deterrent as a surprise. Now, perhaps if you had one of those name tags they give out at conventions, “HI! My name is **Lumpy** , and I can kill you!”. ---
**Author:** ![Kable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed655f/32.png) [@Kable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kable)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2013, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729/1880 "2013-04-13T20:30:19Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > Nope. Actual ones happen, and they are good examples of why people should have the option of reasonable self-defense with firearms. Great! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729.md?page=93) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-1/648729.md?page=95)