# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 26, 2022, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428 "2022-01-26T17:10:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 18
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2022, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/341 "2022-06-03T02:51:21Z")
Isn’t the mass shooting count based on the number of people shot, and not the number of people killed? ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2022, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/342 "2022-06-03T03:08:49Z")
I suspect that the definition is a bit arbitrary, based on who’s defining it. [Everytown](https://everytownresearch.org/maps/mass-shootings-in-america/) and the [Gun Violence Archive](https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/methodology) both define a > mass shooting as any incident in which four or more people are shot and killed, excluding the shooter. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2022, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/343 "2022-06-03T03:20:28Z")
It makes me wonder. We’re often told that some of these mass shooters crave the notoriety that they already know awaits them if they kill enough people, and that the media coverage _of_ these events tends to spur additional such events. I wonder if any of them begins their ghoulish crusade and realizes that they have that threshold to cross in order to ‘qualify’ _as_ a ‘mass shooter.’ I wonder if it occurs to these young kids that they should maybe [**level up**](https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/level-up) by hitting that crossover figure in body count. I shudder to think, but … ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2022, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/344 "2022-06-03T03:38:09Z")
> [@DavidNRockies](#): > > I wonder if any of them begins their ghoulish crusade and realizes that they have that threshold to cross in order to ‘qualify’ _as_ a ‘mass shooter.’ I don’t know about that. If a ‘mass shooting’ is four or more victims killed, we’ve already had [233](https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/) of them this year. I don’t believe that many of these incidents have been extensively reported in the media, although that may be changing. And I hope the media coverage is changing. I think all of these incidents should be reported on every major news outlet, every day. That may change the minds of a few people. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2022, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/345 "2022-06-03T04:35:28Z")
8 year old boy killed when a guy randomly shooting at cars kills him, > **[Boy, 8, on vacation in S. Carolina killed by man shooting at random cars,...](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/boy-8-vacation-s-carolina-killed-man-shooting-random-cars-officials-sa-rcna31565)** > > "You go on vacation to make memories that last a lifetime with your kids, and for this tragedy to befall this family, I was just sick to my stomach," an official said. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2022, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/346 "2022-06-03T12:33:33Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > And I hope the media coverage is changing. I think all of these incidents should be reported on every major news outlet, every day. That may change the minds of a few people. I’ve noticed that after a big mass shooting, the media tends to cover the “smaller” mass shootings a bit more, but eventually it tapers off as they just don’t have time to cover them all. ---
**Author:** ![Ellecram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellecram/32/18948_2.png) [@Ellecram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellecram)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2022, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/347 "2022-06-03T15:51:59Z")
Gotta love the name of the gun store in the Simpson’s clip. Blood, Bath and Beyond Gun Shop! 😲😱 I’ve never watched the show so I don’t know if the store name is well known or not. ---
**Author:** ![Ellecram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellecram/32/18948_2.png) [@Ellecram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellecram)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2022, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/348 "2022-06-03T15:58:24Z")
I don’t know if it would be helpful to show the actual aftermath of some of these mass shootings (not the dead bodies - just the rooms). Talking heads just don’t get the graphic horror across. I had to call around to make arrangements to find someone to clean up my father’s basement after my brother’s suicide attempt by knife. When I saw the bloody chair, the splattered floor and walls it hit me just how brutal it was. Small changes in the way we communicate can have far reaching impact. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2022, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/349 "2022-06-03T16:08:53Z")
> [@Ellecram](#): > > the actual aftermath of some of these mass shootings (not the dead bodies - just the rooms). Talking heads just don’t get the graphic horror across. The aftermath is the funerals and the empty schools. I don’t know that seeing blood spatter is going to budge the public much, and I can see how families of victims would _not_ want that out there. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2022, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/350 "2022-06-03T16:49:54Z")
> [@Ellecram](#): > > Gotta love the name of the gun store in the Simpson’s clip. > > Blood, Bath and Beyond Gun Shop! Nitpick: no comma, “Bloodbath and Beyond”. Yup, perfect title. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2022, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/351 "2022-06-03T16:54:57Z")
> [@Ellecram](#): > > I don’t know if it would be helpful to show the actual aftermath of some of these mass shootings (not the dead bodies - just the rooms). We all probably read that the parents of the deceased kids in Texas had to submit DNA samples so the bodies of their children could be identified. While I don’t advocate showing the pictures of these poor kids, perhaps this fact needs to be brought up on a regular basis. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2022, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/352 "2022-06-03T18:37:00Z")
Man robbed of his assault rifle at gunpoint goes to his car, pulls out another gun, and randomly opens fire. > **[Man Robbed Of Assault Rifle At Gunpoint Opens Fire With Second Gun](https://news.yahoo.com/man-robbed-assault-rifle-gunpoint-023203116.html)** > > The accused robber was struck multiple times, and two bystanders were wounded in the St. Louis shootout. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2022, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/353 "2022-06-03T18:38:09Z")
12 year old boy in custody after entering a gas station and shooting off a round, demanding money. > **[12-year-old boy in custody after holding up gas station, firing off warning...](https://www.wzzm13.com/article/news/crime/12-year-old-boy-in-custody-after-holding-up-gas-station/69-ffbf5d68-001a-4797-a3be-c840ccedb20d)** > > Hartford Police said the boy went to school, went home, and then retrieved the gun from a parent's gun safe before walking to the gas station. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2022, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/354 "2022-06-04T02:44:02Z")
I posted this in the P&E thread on Uvalde, but it bears repeating where commentary can be less restrained on the utterly fucked-up handling of the massacre. I first learned of this this morning, on a CNN segment where the two guests, both with extensive LEO experience, were so flabbergasted they could barely formulate coherent comments. Dear gods and little fishes. It’s been depressing and at times astounding, how the Uvalde narrative has morphed, how increasingly clear it’s become that the LEO response was incompetent, to put it mildly. And now this: [Police chief had no radio during the shooting.](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/texas-senator-says-police-chief-had-no-radio-during-uvalde-school-shooting) > The state agency investigating the mass shooting at an elementary school in Uvalde has determined that the commander facing criticism for the slow police response was not carrying a radio as the massacre unfolded, a Texas state senator said Friday. > … > Authorities have not said how other law enforcement officials were communicating with Arredondo on the scene. Arredondo heads the district’s small department and was in charge of the multi-agency response to the shooting. > … > Police radios are a crucial source of real-time communication during an emergency and, according to experts, often how [information from 911 calls is relayed to officers](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/news-wrap-uvalde-childrens-911-calls-werent-relayed-to-police-commander-lawmaker-says) on the ground. It’s unclear who at the scene was aware of the calls. Uvalde police did not respond to questions about the calls Thursday. ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2022, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/355 "2022-06-04T03:01:47Z")
> [@Article quoted by EddyTeddyFreddy above](#): > > . . . Authorities have not said how other law enforcement officials were communicating with Arredondo on the scene . . . Gunsmoke signals. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2022, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/356 "2022-06-04T17:09:50Z")
Was this a political assassination carried out from the orders of a Domestic Terrorist Group ( ‘militia’ for short)? Calling him a ‘lone wolf’ just doesn’t pass the smell test. > **[Former Wisconsin judge killed in 'targeted' shooting; Gov. Evers also on 'hit...](https://www.wisn.com/article/large-police-at-former-judges-home-in-juneau-county/40191386)** > > Former Juneau Co. judge John Roemer was found zip-tied to a chair and fatally shot. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2022, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/357 "2022-06-04T17:20:22Z")
> [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](#): > > Was this a political assassination carried out from the orders of a Domestic Terrorist Group ( ‘militia’ for short)? “Legitimate political discourse.” ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2022, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/358 "2022-06-04T19:49:05Z")
> [@ekedolphin](#): > > “Legitimate political discourse.” How many rounds fit into the mag of a “Legitimate political discourse”? Is it semi-automatic for extra fast shooting fun? Does it come with a scope, a laser site, and a blinding bright forward light in case the toddlers being hunted run too fast? ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2022, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/359 "2022-06-04T19:55:23Z")
gives a whole new meaning to _ad hominem_ ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2022, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/360 "2022-06-04T20:08:41Z")
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