# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 2)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 26, 2022, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428 "2022-01-26T17:10:54Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2022, 11:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/401 "2022-06-16T11:29:22Z")

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> [@Bill\_Door](#):
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> The worst part is that of those 24 hours of firearms training eight of them can be “Duck Hunt”…

And two can be Die Hard!

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2022, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/402 "2022-06-16T11:55:10Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> were I forced as a teacher to undergo this so-called training

No one is being forced, yet. I’m sure that will be in the bill passed after the next shooting, though.

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2022, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/403 "2022-06-16T13:21:15Z")

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> [@OttoDaFe](#):
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> Only if it happened in a public school. If it happened in a private school — especially a church school — it was God’s will.

“How did Jesus get those two holes in his hands?”

“Hey, only 24 hours of training! I’m just glad he’s so forgiving…”

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**Author:** ![CookingWithGas](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cookingwithgas/32/485_2.png) [@CookingWithGas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CookingWithGas)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2022, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/404 "2022-06-16T14:09:11Z")

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> [@DavidNRockies](#):
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> I ask you: **what** could **possibly** go wrong ?

Jim Jefferies covered that.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/0rR9IaXH1M0/hqdefault.jpg "Jim Jefferies -- Gun Control (Part 1) from BARE -- Netflix Special") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rR9IaXH1M0&t=311)

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2022, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/405 "2022-06-16T14:48:42Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> And two can be Die Hard!

Now you’re just being silly.

There are 5 movies in the franchise. That counts 10 hours at least.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2022, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/406 "2022-06-16T15:41:45Z")

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Surely John Woo movies would count more than Die Hard. I don’t think anybody in those movies fired their pistols sideways like you are supposed to!

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2022, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/407 "2022-06-17T01:03:34Z")

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Mass shooting at a church in Alabama. Reports are that the shooter is in custody, but as of yet no numbers in deaths or wounded.

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**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2022, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/408 "2022-06-17T01:34:28Z")

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1 dead, 2 wounded being reported, shooter in custody. [2 dead, 1 injured in shooting at Alabama church](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/multiple-people-shot-alabama-church-police-say-rcna34045)

Vestavia Hills is a suburb of Birmingham, is known for having a fine school system and seems to be middle-class commuter place.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2022, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/409 "2022-06-17T01:52:26Z")

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> [@OttoDaFe](#):
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> Only if it happened in a public school. If it happened in a private school — especially a church school — it was God’s will.

I love it when the fundamentalist(ish) types start yelling about “we need God back in the schools” whenever something terrible happens in society. There have been shootings at churches. So, they’re saying God’s not there?

And immediately after I posted this is when I saw **Rick\_Kitchen** ’s post about the Alabama church shooting.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2022, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/410 "2022-06-17T02:56:39Z")

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Now 2 dead, at least according to CNN.

> **[A suspect is in custody after 2 people were fatally shot at a church near...](https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/16/us/alabama-vestavia-hills-church-shooting/index.html)**
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> Two people were killed and one injured Thursday when shooting erupted at a small church meeting in a suburb of Birmingham, Alabama, police said -- the latest gun attack to unfold as Americans tried to go about their daily lives.

ETA: More details.

> **[Vestavia Hills church shooting: 2 dead, 1 injured at St. Stephen’s Episcopal,...](https://www.al.com/news/2022/06/vestavia-hills-church-shooting-1-dead-multiple-people-injured.html)**
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> The incident happened during a “Boomers Potluck” dinner.

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2022, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/411 "2022-06-17T03:03:49Z")

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> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> Mass shooting at a church in Alabama. Reports are that the shooter is in custody, but as of yet no numbers in deaths or wounded.

It’s Alabama. You just have to ask the family…

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2022, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/412 "2022-06-17T06:50:24Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> …  
> There have been shootings at churches. So, they’re saying God’s not there?  
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Well, obviously they’re not a _true_ church (“true” defined as the denomination preferred by the person making the claim).

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2022, 8:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/413 "2022-06-17T08:47:05Z")

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Yep. The above-mentioned fundamentalist(ish) types would look at [this](https://www.gocomics.com/perry-bible-fellowship/2022/6/14) and cheer on their fetish, not realizing how wrong that is.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2022, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/414 "2022-06-17T22:19:23Z")

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> **[Vt. Man Arrested For Threatening Daughter’s School Over Trans People](https://www.advocate.com/crime/2022/6/17/vt-man-arrested-threatening-daughters-school-over-trans-people)**
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> Shane Gobeil reportedly told police that he intended to buy an assault rifle and if anyone trans or in drag came near his daughter he'd "kill 'em."

> A judge has now granted an extreme risk protection order, barring the man from purchasing or possessing dangerous weapons for at least six months.

How about a lifetime ban?

> The affidavit states that during a conversation about dress codes with the teens, which video cameras recorded, Gobeil says, “The school’s changing. Before you know it, there’s going to be a drag queen show. And you know what? I’m probably going to show up and kill somebody. A lot of bodies. You understand?”
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> An employee at Solomon’s Store was alarmed and reported the comment to management, ultimately leading to school principal Ryan Charles Patterson reporting the threat to Vermont State Police.
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> **Gobeil repeated his threat to Vermont State Police** , reports [VTDigger](http://vtdigger.org/2022/06/15/canaan-parent-cited-transgender-people-in-threat-against-school-court-documents-show/).

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2022, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/415 "2022-06-17T22:50:25Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> How about a lifetime ban?

I’m sure someone from [here](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/do-red-flag-laws-violate-the-5th-and-6th-amendments-us/966260) or [here](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/house-raises-the-age-to-buy-semi-automatic-rifles-to-21-but-unlikely-to-pass-in-the-senate/965901) will be along to explain why we need to respect the 2A rights of people that threaten to commit mass murder. I mean he might need to shoot a wild pig or something!

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**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2022, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/416 "2022-06-17T22:54:01Z")

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He’s triggered by masks, too. Nice fella.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2022, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/417 "2022-06-18T03:26:47Z")

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Vermont is one of the 2Aest states in the country. Bernie is very anti-gun-control, which may be why he keeps getting elected.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2022, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/418 "2022-06-22T01:35:18Z")

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Oklahoma man strolling around a mini-mall and a Target with a pistol and a semi-automatic rifle gets the cops called on him. The cops decide everything he’s doing is perfectly OK - but then arrest him because he also had a pair of brass knuckles, which are apparently highly illegal and too dangerous to be carried in public.

> **[Broken Arrow open-carry incident raises law enforcement questions](https://tulsaworld.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/broken-arrow-open-carry-incident-raises-law-enforcement-questions/article_a5f4a2d8-edb3-11ec-806d-bb938b4a6b13.html)**
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> A week ago, an incident in Broken Arrow raised fresh questions about how witnesses and law enforcement should respond when people walk around armed with assault-style rifles in public.

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**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2022, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/419 "2022-06-22T04:19:03Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> The cops decide everything he’s doing is perfectly OK - but then arrest him because he also had a pair of brass knuckles, which are apparently highly illegal and too dangerous to be carried in public.

Don’t know whether to laugh or cry.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2022, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/420 "2022-06-22T06:26:58Z")

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Pass a law defining assault rifles as a kind of brass knuckles.

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