# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 26, 2022, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428 "2022-01-26T17:10:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 22
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2022, 11:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/421 "2022-06-22T11:43:50Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > Pass a law defining assault rifles as a kind of brass knuckles What’s stupid is, an assault rifle is a deadlier MELEE weapon than brass knuckles. ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2022, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/422 "2022-06-22T14:24:08Z")
If you liberals get your way and take our guns, don’t think you won’t see school brass knuckle punching massacres! ---
**Author:** ![CookingWithGas](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cookingwithgas/32/485_2.png) [@CookingWithGas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CookingWithGas)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2022, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/423 "2022-06-22T14:25:28Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > arrest him because he also had a pair of brass knuckles And also “possession of an over .45-caliber firearm” although it did not specify what that was. ---
**Author:** ![Folly](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folly/32/3219_2.png) [@Folly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folly)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2022, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/424 "2022-06-22T15:13:31Z")
I think technically some flare guns are an over .45 caliber firearm depending on your definitions. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2022, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/425 "2022-06-22T15:22:56Z")
It isn’t just flare guns: > **[.50 caliber handguns](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.50_caliber_handguns)** > > A .50 caliber handgun is a handgun firing a bullet measuring approximately .5 inches (12.7 mm) in diameter. Historically, many black powder pistols fired bullets with diameters well above a half inch. However, following the development of smokeless powder, the focus shifted to smaller-diameter bullets propelled at higher velocities, and the development of .50 and larger calibers in handguns became uncommon. > In the twentieth century, several new cartridges of half-inch diameter were developed, th... ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2022, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/426 "2022-06-22T15:28:06Z")
A 10-year-old boy in Wichita was critically injured when a gun handled by his father accidentally discharged. Other news reports said that the gun discharged while being placed in a gun safe. > **[Boy injured in apparent accidental shooting in S. Wichita](https://www.kwch.com/2022/06/22/boy-injured-apparent-accidental-shooting-s-wichita/)** > > A 10-year-old boy was critically injured in a south Wichita shooting police say was accidental. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2022, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/427 "2022-06-22T18:56:15Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > I mean he might need to shoot a wild pig or something! I see no evidence where he has ever threatened Marjorie Taylor Greene… ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2022, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/428 "2022-06-23T03:51:12Z")
> [@Folly](#): > > I think technically some flare guns are an over .45 caliber firearm depending on your definitions. Also, I think most paintball guns are .60+ ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2022, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/429 "2022-06-23T03:59:11Z")
.40, .43, .50, .62, and .68. .68 is the most common and is considered the standard size of paintballs. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2022, 12:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/430 "2022-06-23T12:18:15Z")
The thing is, it _does_ make sense to ban brass knuckles, and that’s why across the developed world they are either outright illegal or legal with restrictions (like not being in possession of them in a public place). But it just shows how the US would write laws today were it not for the 2nd amendment. “Do more weapons make everyone safer? Is it better to let everyone have brass knuckles because the bad guys will have them anyway?” No. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2022, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/431 "2022-06-23T12:27:04Z")
> [@Mijin](#): > > “Do more weapons make everyone safer? Is it better to let everyone have brass knuckles because the bad guys will have them anyway?” No. Yes, but what about pools? ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2022, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/432 "2022-06-23T12:45:12Z")
What? Swimming pools? ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2022, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/433 "2022-06-23T12:59:02Z")
Swimming pools aren’t the problem. Drowning pools are. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2022, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/434 "2022-06-23T13:07:04Z")
Oh I see. Well firstly, swimming pools have functions like leisure and fitness. Yes guns can also have a leisure purpose: e.g. target-shooting, hunting, but that doesn’t apply as a reason for why someone should be allowed to walk around with a gun in a mall. Secondly of course, there _are_ restrictions on pools. Public pools have to have a lifeguard, limits on depth (and a minimum depth, for a pool with a diving board), chlorination guidelines etc. This probably varies state-to-state in the US, but that’s besides the point. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2022, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/435 "2022-06-23T13:09:34Z")
I _hope_ you recognize I was being sarcastic with the whataboutism? But, you have to admit that if someone unleashes a swimming pool in the middle of a crowded mall, there’s gonna be some casualties. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2022, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/436 "2022-06-23T13:31:24Z")
Oh I’m sorry for the whoosh in that case. I’m a regular visitor on some Trumpist forums at the moment, and that kind of response is absolutely typical. In fact it genuinely would be one of the better arguments I’d say. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2022, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/437 "2022-06-23T13:45:15Z")
> [@Mijin](#): > > I’m a regular visitor on some Trumpist forums at the moment Sorry to hear that. Unfortunately, I’m a resident in Trumplandia, so I hear it all. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2022, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/438 "2022-06-23T15:10:33Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > Swimming pools aren’t the problem. Drowning pools are. How about dead pools? You can have my swimming pool when you pry it from my cold, dead yard. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2022, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/439 "2022-06-23T15:12:42Z")
Much like _Citizens United_ moved us the wrong way on a hugely important issue (ie, money in politics), today we have this: > **[Supreme Court allows the carrying of firearms in public in major victory for...](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/supreme-court-says-second-amendment-guarantees-right-carry-guns-public-rcna17721)** > > The ruling expands upon a 2008 decision that said the Second Amendment safeguards a person’s right to possess firearms at home for self-protection. > [@](#): > > The [Supreme Court](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/abortion-guns-top-agenda-new-supreme-court-term-n1280550) ruled Thursday that the Constitution provides a right to [carry a gun](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/supreme-court-consider-right-carry-gun-outside-home-n1265357) outside the home, issuing a major decision on the meaning of the Second Amendment. > > The 6-3 ruling was the court’s second important decision on the right to “keep and bear arms.” In a [landmark 2008 decision](https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/07pdf/07-290.pdf), the court said for the first time that the amendment safeguards a person’s right to possess firearms, although the decision was limited to keeping guns at home for self-defense. > > The court has now taken that ruling to the next step after years of [ducking the issue](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/supreme-court-refuses-take-issue-gun-rights-outside-home-n776816) and applied the Second Amendment beyond the limits of homeowners’ property. ---
**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2022, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/440 "2022-06-23T15:13:42Z")
Please don’t turn this into another gunnite rights thread: > **[What is a Gunite Swimming Pool?](https://articles.bluehaven.com/what-is-a-gunite-swimming-pool)** > > Basic explanation of gunite / shotcrete pools, how these versatile concrete materials are used for lasting pool construction, and the benefits they deliver [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428.md?page=21) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428.md?page=23)