# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 2)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 26, 2022, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428 "2022-01-26T17:10:54Z")\
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**Author:** ![DavidNRockies](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidnrockies/32/6279_2.png) [@DavidNRockies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidNRockies)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2022, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/441 "2022-06-23T16:13:03Z")

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I just heard this:

> As Justice Samuel Alito [noted](https://twitter.com/mjs_DC/status/1539980793963053056) in a concurrent opinion, “The New York law at issue in this case obviously did not stop that preparatory,” referring to the 18-year-old who shot and killed ten Black people and injured three others in a racially-motivated rampage at a Tops supermarket in Buffalo last month.

[**SOURCE**](https://www.salon.com/2022/06/23/cites-buffalo-mass-in-decision-striking-down-new-yorks-law/)

I find it said, lamentable, and regrettable when a Supreme Court Justice apparently – at least in part – makes such a consequential ruling based on such a clear logical fallacy.

I guess we should expect the SC to strike down any law, anywhere, that is being violated (ie, that doesn’t eliminate every single case of that which it makes illegal).

It’s effectively nothing more than an NRA talking point.

> **Example**
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> We’re always told about the strict gun laws in Mexico, and then told that they still have a high rate of gun violence. Okay, but take away those Mexican gun control laws, one at a time, and let’s see what happens _to_ the rate of gun violence.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2022, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/442 "2022-06-23T16:51:31Z")

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> [@Mijin](#):
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> Secondly of course, there _are_ restrictions on pools. Public pools have to have a lifeguard, limits on depth (and a minimum depth, for a pool with a diving board), chlorination guidelines etc. This probably varies state-to-state in the US, but that’s besides the point.

Sometimes you’re required to build a fence around them!

[  
https://tvline.com/2021/10/24/curb-your-enthusiasm-premiere-recap-season-11-episode-1-five-foot-fence/  
 ](https://tvline.com/2021/10/24/curb-your-enthusiasm-premiere-recap-season-11-episode-1-five-foot-fence/)

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**Author:** ![pkbites](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pkbites/32/204_2.png) [@pkbites](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pkbites)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/443 "2022-06-24T02:56:41Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> Vermont is one of the 2Aest states in the country. Bernie is very anti-gun-control, which may be why he keeps getting elected.

Bullshit! Someone anti-gun control doesn’t get D and F ratings from the NRA and GOA and brag about it.

> **[Bernie Sanders’ NRA report card: D-minus is most recent grade](https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2016/jan/20/bernie-sanders/bernie-sanders-nra-report-card-d-minus-most-recent/)**
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> Sen. Bernie Sanders is wearing a bad grade as a badge of honor. The Democratic presidential candidate is under fire sinc

And Vermont isn’t very 2A friendly anymore, having passed all sorts of gun control laws.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2022, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/444 "2022-06-24T15:44:05Z")

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Hey…what has [Drowning Pool](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drowning_Pool?wprov=sfti1) ever done to you?

And y’all leave [Wade Wilson](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadpool?wprov=sfti1) alone!

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**Author:** ![omenran](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omenran/32/3318_2.png) [@omenran](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/omenran)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2022, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/445 "2022-06-25T16:34:15Z")

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This article popped up on my feed,

> **[Broken Arrow open-carry incident raises law enforcement questions](https://tulsaworld.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/broken-arrow-open-carry-incident-raises-law-enforcement-questions/article_a5f4a2d8-edb3-11ec-806d-bb938b4a6b13.html)**
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> A week ago, an incident in Broken Arrow raised fresh questions about how witnesses and law enforcement should respond when people walk around armed with assault-style rifles in public.

I thought this quote in the article was interesting:

> But “quite honestly, nobody needs to be walking down the street with a rifle,” Rogers County Sheriff Scott Walton said in an interview about dealing with such situations. “But I don’t make the laws; we just try to live by them and do a very difficult job in a world that’s got those people in it.”

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**Author:** ![CookingWithGas](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cookingwithgas/32/485_2.png) [@CookingWithGas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CookingWithGas)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2022, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/446 "2022-06-25T22:02:03Z")

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When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns. So you can be sure that the guys openly carrying guns are outlaws.

When open carry of all guns is legal, ALL the outlaws will have guns, and you won’t be able to tell which ones they are.

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**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/447 "2022-06-28T01:02:08Z")

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Yesterday in Atlanta, a man shot and killed one worker at Subway and injured another because they put too much mayo on his sandwich. This is America.

> **[Atlanta Subway worker shot dead for putting too much mayo on sandwich](https://nypost.com/2022/06/27/atlanta-subway-worker-killed-over-too-much-mayo-on-sandwich/)**
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> The shooting erupted at a Subway inside a downtown Atlanta gas station at about 6:30 p.m. Sunday after the disgruntled customer became irate over his order, police said.

You know, most people simply say politely, “That’s enough, please.” Or ask for it to be remade. Instead, someone won’t be returning home to their family.

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**Author:** ![CookingWithGas](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cookingwithgas/32/485_2.png) [@CookingWithGas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CookingWithGas)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/448 "2022-06-28T01:10:45Z")

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Georgia allows concealed carry without a license. This kind of incident is why I am opposed to such loose gun laws. Even if someone doesn’t leave their house intending to commit a crime, they can turn into a murderer with one anger management failure.

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**Author:** ![Bill\_Door](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@Bill\_Door](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_Door)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 11:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/449 "2022-06-28T11:55:52Z")

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> [@ekedolphin](#):
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> Yesterday in Atlanta, a man shot and killed one worker at Subway and injured another because they put too much mayo on his sandwich. This is America.

What the Hellmann?

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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/450 "2022-06-28T13:41:09Z")

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> [@CookingWithGas](#):
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> This kind of incident is why I am opposed to such loose gun laws. Even if someone doesn’t leave their house intending to commit a crime, they can turn into a murderer with one anger management failure.

At least we now have a term for such random wanton abuses of gun possession rights: “mayonnaise murders”.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [June 28, 2022, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/451 "2022-06-28T15:03:40Z")

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I recently watched a video about Atlanta and it showed a couple kids selling water at an intersection. One of the boys showed the interviewer/cameraman a bag that contained two handguns. The interviewer asked the people giving him the tour if that was common and they said basically everyone carries guns now that it’s legal to carry concealed. Sounds like a great idea. 🙄

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2022, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/452 "2022-06-30T12:31:01Z")

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> [@CookingWithGas](#):
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> No information about what triggered the explosion.

Given his arrest record, I imagine that he was building an illegal explosive device.

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**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2022, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/453 "2022-07-01T03:15:49Z")

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I can’t find anything more recent than 2 weeks ago, but the story’s been updated to “lost a hand and has burns over 55% of his body.”

> **[Biker gang member loses hand after bomb he was handling explodes in his garage](https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/biker-gang-member-loses-hand-27225693)**
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> Motorcycle gang member, Michael Liburdi, 38, is under investigation after losing a hand and being hospitalised with 55% burns after a home-made bomb exploded at his Michigan property

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**Post date:** [July 1, 2022, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/454 "2022-07-01T04:04:37Z")

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SCENE: An improvised bomb factory  
**New Recruit** : I was told to report to the senior instructor.  
**Bomb Maker** : Do I look like the senior instructor?  
**New Recruit** : What’s he look like?  
**Bomb Maker** : It’s real easy kid. Want to know how much experience someone here has? Count their hands and then count their fingers.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2022, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/455 "2022-07-04T03:51:50Z")

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> <https://twitter.com/RexChapman/status/1543698525149700098?s=20&t=iNIlY-HQhCdo9GzmSxuSWw>
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> Everything Georgia @GAFollowers

For reasons that are not clear, the driver of the pickup decided to fire over a dozen shots through his side window (blowing out the glass on the first shot) apparently at the car next to him. My guess is that he suddenly felt like his magazine was too full.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [July 4, 2022, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/456 "2022-07-04T18:16:31Z")

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Yet another mass shooting. This time in Highland Park, IL, a very affluent northern suburb of Chicago, at a July 4 parade.

[https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/04/us/highland-park-illinois-shooting-july-4-parade/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/04/us/highland-park-illinois-shooting-july-4-parade/index.html)

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**Post date:** [July 4, 2022, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/457 "2022-07-04T18:34:50Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> Yet another mass shooting. This time in Highland Park, IL, a very affluent northern suburb of Chicago, at a July 4 parade.

Already a thread started at MPSIMS

> [@Mass shooting at Highland Park, IL Fourth of July parade {2022-07-04}](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/mass-shooting-at-highland-park-il-fourth-of-july-parade/967412):
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> Very sketchy info at this point but Chicago news stations reporting multiple people injured and at least one person killed at the parade this morning in the northern Chicago suburb. [WGN news link here.](https://wgntv.com/news/police-respond-to-incident-at-highland-park-fourth-of-july-parade/) A reporter for WGN-TV who lives in the area and was at the parade has reportedly said a person was on the roof of a building along the parade route and began firing into the crowd.

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**Post date:** [July 4, 2022, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/458 "2022-07-04T18:44:08Z")

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You know how we solve half our gun problem? Stop selling any weapon at all to white men under the age of 30.

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**Post date:** [July 4, 2022, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/459 "2022-07-04T18:52:52Z")

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1. At the very least.

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**Post date:** [July 4, 2022, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/460 "2022-07-04T18:59:00Z")

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So where’s The Good Guy With A Gun who’s supposed to stop this sort of thing?  
Or is that another myth like The Wholesale Confiscation Of All Guns?

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