# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 26, 2022, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428 "2022-01-26T17:10:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 25
**Author:** ![Bill\_Door](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@Bill\_Door](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_Door)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2022, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/481 "2022-07-17T16:32:50Z")
> [@CookingWithGas](#): > > I get what you’re saying, and with guns an extreme level of care is required, so a gun “going off” or a gun being shot by a child is definitely the result of negligence. But isn’t your statement, as it reads, true of _all_ accidents of any type? What car crash isn’t the result of negligence at some level? Isn’t falling off a ladder due to negligence? That was a policy at the company I was employed by, that all injuries were at fault. Either the injured party failed to follow the procedure and was at fault or the injured party followed the procedure and the procedure was at fault, but there were no accidents, only negligence. I suppose someone walking across the mezzanine getting hit by a meteorite would have strained the definition, but I had to fill out a lot of documentation about how we were changing our pest control program when one of my guys got stung by a yellowjacket. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2022, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/482 "2022-07-24T01:53:54Z")
> **[Dad Shot After Splashing Windshield Fluid on Raging Driver's BMW: Family](https://www.newsweek.com/dad-shot-after-splashing-windshielf-fluid-raging-driver-family-1726897?fbclid=IwAR0a9CsoRWZ1UieTZYfeRkfvC4_B8NAxggnB8oBy5b2OlpT622KZkRVGSuQ)** > > Dennis Anderson's partner was uninjured, likely "due to her husband's body sheltering her from a spray of bullets," said a Go Fund Me. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2022, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/483 "2022-07-28T17:42:51Z")
AOC called out a gun company exec for running an ad with a guy with a white supremacist tattoo. The exec tried to plead innocence. > **[AOC doesn't let gun CEO play stupid about white supremacy tattoos in ads...](https://boingboing.net/2022/07/27/aoc-doesnt-let-gun-ceo-play-stupid-about-white-supremacy-tattoos-in-ads-video.html)** > > Gun manufacturers are denying that they market AR-15s to white supremacists (or Christian Nationalists, if you’re in Marjorie Taylor Greene’s clan). But Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez di… ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2022, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/484 "2022-07-28T18:46:29Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > AOC called out a gun company exec for running an ad with a guy with a white supremacist tattoo. The exec tried to plead innocence. This dude also claimed that mass shootings are local problems which need to be solved locally. > **[Gun company CEOs tell Congress they’re not to blame for mass shootings](https://www.azmirror.com/2022/07/28/gun-company-ceos-tell-congress-theyre-not-to-blame-for-mass-shootings/)** > > The CEOs of major gun manufacturing companies told a U.S. House panel on Wednesday that their production of AR-15-style guns did not contribute to recent mass shootings that left 29 people dead, and that the killings were due to the actions of... > Maloney asked two CEOs of gun companies, Marty Daniel of Daniel Defense, LLC, and Christopher Killoy, president and chief executive officer of Sturm, Ruger & Company, Inc., in Connecticut, “How many more American children need to die before your company will stop selling assault weapons?” > > “I believe that these murders are local problems that have to be solved locally,” Daniel said. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2022, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/485 "2022-07-28T19:39:12Z")
I’ve got to comment. Even if its an ‘insurance scam’. Even if they are trying to hit your car for truly stupid reasons. ( “Ba-Ba-Bouey! Yuk Yuk” ) At no time may anyone ‘with a gun’ ever be justified in shooting back at another car (at least in my state). The cops will get triggered, they will find you, catch you, hurt you and jail you. There is no self defense to shoot at another car. You will be jailed, bankrupted, fired, and should you live through jail, you’ll be lucky to be able to work at McDonalds (but they won’t let you handle money). A gun is just a metal noose; it’s why they smirk when they sell it to you. You can’t ever use it, even in self defense, even in your home in the middle of the night with a Home Invasion going on. They WILL charge you. There are literally dozens of charges to choose from. You Will be convicted. You Will go to jail. You Will lose your entire life. And that POS who sold you that gun/noose? He’ll still be smirking. He knew that if he sold you enough rope, you’d hang yourself. …And you Did! ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2022, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/486 "2022-07-28T20:39:04Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > “I believe that these murders are local problems that have to be solved locally,” Daniel said. Not according to the Supreme Court which has made upending local laws on guns - target practice. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2022, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/487 "2022-07-28T20:43:26Z")
> [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](#): > > You can’t ever use it, even in self defense, even in your home in the middle of the night with a Home Invasion going on. They WILL charge you. There are literally dozens of charges to choose from. You Will be convicted. You Will go to jail. You Will lose your entire life. Excuse me, where is this? ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2022, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/488 "2022-07-28T21:00:00Z")
You do realize that in this country, you can shoot a 9 year old girl because someone else stole $20 from you, and go scott free, right? I imagine that if someone was actually trying to assault you with their car, or were actually shooting you from their car, there’d be no question if you shot at them. Although in this case, there is no insurance scam or anything, the guy got mad and shot at them because some when the first car cleaned its windshield, of the windshield wiper fluid got on the other guy’s car. Self defense shouldn’t even enter into it. So far, that’s not a legal reason to shoot at someone, but I wouldn’t be surprised if when it gets to SCOTUS and Alito comes up with some reasoning to put the shooter on the right side of the law. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2022, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/489 "2022-07-28T21:05:18Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > So far, that’s not a legal reason to shoot at someone, but I wouldn’t be surprised if when it gets to SCOTUS and Alito comes up with some reasoning to put the shooter on the right side of the law. - More like putting the law on the wrong side of the shooter. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2022, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/490 "2022-07-28T21:24:08Z")
> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#): > > Excuse me, where is this? NJ. Don’t use guns here other than plinking paper or hunting Bambi. Ever. The DA Will charge you; you Will be convicted. Don’t say I didn’t warn you. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2022, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/491 "2022-07-28T21:28:46Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > AOC called out a gun company exec for running an ad with a guy with a white supremacist tattoo. The exec tried to plead innocence. She is just wonderful. I hope I someday get to vote for her. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2022, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/492 "2022-07-30T17:51:54Z")
So apparently there is something called a JR-15 that’s an AR-15 designed for kids. Marge Greene says that there wouldn’t have been any kids killed in Uvalde if they’d all been armed with JR-15s. > **[Marjorie Taylor Greene Suggests Uvalde Students Needed JR-15s for Defense](https://www.newsweek.com/marjorie-taylor-greene-suggests-uvalde-students-needed-jr-15s-defense-1729317)** > > The JR-15, which was introduced earlier this year, is a small semi-automatic assault weapon modeled after the larger AR-15 and marketed to children. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2022, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/493 "2022-07-30T22:12:25Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > So apparently there is something called a JR-15 Seen before in this same thread > [@Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 2)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/50): > > Gunmaker introduces a semiautomatic rifle just for kids. The gun dubbed the JR-15 is being marketed by maker WEE1 Tactical as “the first in a line of shooting platforms that will safely help adults introduce children to the shooting sports.” The company’s website says the rifle “also looks, feels, and operates just like Mom and Dad’s gun.” [https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/us-gunmaker-unveils-semi-automatic-rifle-marketed-to-kids/ar-AAU3nOy?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/us-gunmaker-unveils-semi-automatic-rifle-marketed-to-kids/ar-AAU3nOy?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531) ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2022, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/494 "2022-07-30T22:25:31Z")
Sounds like the perfect thing to bring to school for show-and-tell. ---
**Author:** ![CookingWithGas](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cookingwithgas/32/485_2.png) [@CookingWithGas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CookingWithGas)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2022, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/495 "2022-07-30T22:26:25Z")
My kids had riflery instruction at summer camp and I was OK with that. They were shooting cans with .22 rifles. The JR-15 is a .22 rifle. My problem with that is not kids shooting guns _per se_ but kids being groomed with a lust for assault-style weapons. And of course sending kids to school with guns to defend against an active shooter is just insane. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2022, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/496 "2022-07-30T22:30:09Z")
> [@CookingWithGas](#): > > And of course sending kids to school with guns to defend against an active shooter is just insane. Yeah, obviously a .22 isn’t going to be up to that task. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2022, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/497 "2022-07-30T22:33:05Z")
> [@CookingWithGas](#): > > And of course sending kids to school with guns to defend against an active shooter is just insane. - Don’t forget the teacher. With that much firepower, maybe we should defund do away with the police altogether. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2022, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/498 "2022-07-30T22:59:28Z")
I shot a bb gun at a camp I went to as a kid, and although I ended up being the best shot (I paid attention to the instructor and squeezed the trigger), it didn’t make me want an actual gun of my own. Granted, there was nobody I knew IRL who had a gun then. It wasn’t something anybody talked about where I grew up. ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2022, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/499 "2022-07-30T23:53:25Z")
I shot a rifle twice in Air Force basic training, one day with no ammo and the next day with ammo. It was the first time I had ever handled a firearm (except for a BB gun when I was a kid), and I surprisingly shot a 97%. It never made me want to own a gun. And then I went out with a friend skeet shooting one time, and did pretty well there, too, but it didn’t raise a blood lust in me. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/500 "2022-07-31T00:29:44Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Sounds like the perfect thing to bring to school for show-and-tell. … and maybe Home-Ec ( if they’re making Gazpacho that day). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428.md?page=24) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428.md?page=26)