# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 2)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 26, 2022, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428 "2022-01-26T17:10:54Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2022, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/61 "2022-02-20T20:25:45Z")

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Could you draw the pacifier portion with veins? #Marketing

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2022, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/62 "2022-02-21T23:14:25Z")

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A good guy with a gun tells his 4 year old to fire it at a cop.

> **[Dad tells 4-year-old to shoot at cop in McDonald's](https://www.the-sun.com/news/4740770/mcdonalds-midvale-utah-shooting-child-gun/)**
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> A FOUR-YEAR-OLD child fired a gun at officers inside a McDonald’s, police said. The incident occurred when a man in a Honda flashed a gun outside the fast-food restaurant in Midvale, Utah. The man …

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2022, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/63 "2022-02-22T16:31:48Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> Gunmaker introduces a semiautomatic rifle just for kids.

Just in time…

> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#):
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> A good guy with a gun tells his 4 year old to fire it at a cop.
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> [Dad tells 4-year-old to shoot at cop in McDonald's](https://www.the-sun.com/news/4740770/mcdonalds-midvale-utah-shooting-child-gun/)

And maybe this belongs in controversial encounters, but:

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> The [Unified Police Department](https://www.updsl.org/) released a statement on the incident: “This is a sad day for law enforcement and our community. To have an adult think it is okay to encourage a four-year-old to pull a firearm and shoot at police illustrates how out of hand the campaign against police has gotten.

Fuck you, you stupid piece of shit. You want to know why people don’t like police, because you say stupid fucked up shit like this. How out of control is the campaign against food service workers when the guy is pointing a gun at _them_? You don’t even mention them, don’t give the slightest shit that _they_ were the ones being held at gunpoint by this fucker with a gun over an incorrect order.

This wasn’t due to a campaign against police, this was due to the campaign _for_ guns in everyone’s hands.

Fucking martyrs, gotta turn everything in to a persecution complex. Woe is fucking you.

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [February 22, 2022, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/64 "2022-02-22T18:38:07Z")

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Agreed: If the NRA wasn’t pushing so hard to get guns sold to anyone who can hold one, we wouldn’t have these problems.

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**Author:** ![CookingWithGas](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cookingwithgas/32/485_2.png) [@CookingWithGas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CookingWithGas)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2022, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/65 "2022-02-23T02:55:54Z")

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> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> You don’t even mention them, don’t give the slightest shit that _they_ were the ones being held at gunpoint by this fucker with a gun over an incorrect order.

I think you may be extrapolating just a bit from the news account. It said he “brandished” a gun, which could mean a variety of things. It doesn’t necessarily mean he pointed the gun at the workers and there is certainly nothing in the article that said they were “held at gunpoint.” We can assume he was threatening in some manner but the details are not stated.

On the other hand, a gun was actually fired at police officers.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2022, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/66 "2022-02-23T16:29:32Z")

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I haven’t seen this incident posted in other threads so maybe it should go here. Actually, maybe it should to in the positive gun news thread since it involves a good guy with a gun gunning down a bad guy with a gun. The only problem is, the bad guy with a gun appears to be a conservative and the good guy with the gun appears to be a commie pinko leftist. So, I’m torn where it really goes.

Stupid fucking murderer.

> **[Gunman charged with killing protester in Portland, Oregon](https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2022/feb/22/police-identify-suspect-victim-in-portland-protest/)**
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> PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) — A 43-year-old man confronted protesters against police violence in a Portland, Oregon, park, told them to leave and then drew a pistol and opened fire, killing a woman and wounding four other people, a prosecutor said Tuesday.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2022, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/67 "2022-02-23T16:42:34Z")

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> [@CookingWithGas](#):
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> I think you may be extrapolating just a bit from the news account.

Not really. Having a gun brandished at you is not that far removed from being “at gunpoint.” If you want to accuse me of some slight hyperbole, then go right ahead, but if you want to make the assertion that there really is any difference between having someone brandish a weapon while threatening you and actually pointing it at your head, that’s pretty inane.

> [@CookingWithGas](#):
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> On the other hand, a gun was actually fired at police officers.

Right, so fucking what? My point was that this statement made it political. They aren’t talking about the fucked up guy threatening fast food workers, or about how he is having his 4 year old handle weapons in the car, they are complaining about the “campaign against police.”

This had nothing to do with protests against police brutality, the guy didn’t tell his kid to fire because of BLM. This was the police seizing an opportunity to politicize the event. Whoever put this statement out is a piece of shit.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2022, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/68 "2022-02-23T20:20:41Z")

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> [@wguy123](#):
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> The only problem is, the bad guy with a gun appears to be a conservative and the good guy with the gun appears to be a commie pinko leftist. So, I’m torn where it really goes.

Clearly you are getting your guys mixed up. The good guy with a gun nailed a commie pinko leftist in the brainpan, turned another commie pinko leftist into a quadriplegic and wounded several other CPLs, while the nasty CPL with a gun shot the good guy in the ass, preventing him from doing more good works.

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2022, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/69 "2022-02-23T20:34:26Z")

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This link to the story has fewer paywalls.

[https://www.newsobserver.com/news/nation-world/national/article258648583.html](https://www.newsobserver.com/news/nation-world/national/article258648583.html)

What were they supposed to do as he shop at them? Serve him breakfast?

“Here you go, Mr. Smith! Pancakes. I know they’re regular stack, but we’d be more than happy to get you Buckwheats…”

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2022, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/70 "2022-02-23T21:27:52Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> Clearly you are getting your guys mixed up.

Darn, you are right! Sometimes it’s hard to keep the good guy and bad guy straight!

> [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](#):
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> This link to the story has fewer paywalls.

I didn’t realize the Spokesman had a paywall (I have a subscription). I just used a different web browser and it looks like you get 5 or so free articles per day. Maybe you should be buying a subscription? 😉

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2022, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/71 "2022-02-23T22:08:02Z")

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> [@wguy123](#):
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> Maybe you should be buying a subscription?

My cousin gets the Gazette-Record from St. Maries, and it is worth a laugh or two, but if’n you try reading the whole thing, it just gets plum exhausting. A sub to the Spokesman would lead to reading way too much coverage of happenings in Idaho for the comfort of rational folk.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2022, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/72 "2022-02-23T23:10:23Z")

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Just think how bad it is to not only read about it, but to have to live it. Welcome to my world! 🙂

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2022, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/73 "2022-02-24T00:24:44Z")

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What you do not get to experience is the news on a Wetter Washington TV station where one of the reporters has the unfortunate name of Kevin Ko.

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2022, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/74 "2022-02-24T00:53:28Z")

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I’d legally change my name if that were the case! NOT THAT KEVIN COE!

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2022, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/75 "2022-02-24T00:59:10Z")

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> [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](#):
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> What were they supposed to do as he shop at them?

_All right, mister. Put the credit card down slowly, slide it to me carefully and slowly; don’t make any sudden moves or you’re not gettting a Happy Meal!_

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2022, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/76 "2022-02-24T13:54:22Z")

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I saw that typo… but it was past the edit window and I had been multitasking. Still, it was totally my fault.

Also, never let the salesman bate-switch you into a different keyboard when you spilled your coffee on the last one. So it’s only six bucks. It’s crap. Six bucks of crap is a waste of six bucks.

“Sorry… sorry. We were looking for ‘shot’. Over to Vladimir Airbladderbraaapovski…”  
“I’ll take Pierogi stuffed with ground sheep bits for $200, Alex…”

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2022, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/77 "2022-02-24T16:47:29Z")

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> [@Monty](#):
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> Jesus Guns Babies!

Cue Warren Zevon: _“Send Jesus, guns and babies…”_

> [@k9bfriender](#):
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> The [Unified Police Department](https://www.updsl.org/) released a statement on the incident: “This is a sad day for law enforcement and our community. To have an adult think it is okay to encourage a four-year-old to pull a firearm and shoot at police illustrates how out of hand the campaign against police has gotten.

(quoting an article)

There is certainly the implication there that the police are less concerned that a four-year-old pulled a firearm and fired it at all than they are that it was at _them_. Which, I agree, is all kinds of fucked up.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2022, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/78 "2022-02-24T20:22:35Z")

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C’mon! It’s in the gun rules! Four-year-olds are only allowed to shoot their parents and other four-year-olds!

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [February 24, 2022, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/79 "2022-02-24T20:30:26Z")

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#RittenhouseRules

(Soon to be a major motion picture with Tobey McGuire!)

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2022, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/80 "2022-02-27T00:38:33Z")

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It was ok, because he was a retired police captain,

> **[Retired Police Captain Acquitted of Murdering Cinema-Goer Who Threw Popcorn...](https://toofab.com/2022/02/26/retired-police-captain-acquitted-of-murdering-cinema-goer-who-threw-popcorn-at-him/)**
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> The argument started when the former SWAT commander admonished the father-of-one for texting during the previews.

He was in fear for his life because the man he antagonized threw a bag of popcorn at him.

Oh, and, Florida

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