# Stupid Gun news of the day (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 26, 2022, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428 "2022-01-26T17:10:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 41
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2023, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/801 "2023-01-20T13:38:36Z")
> [@Rick\_Kitchen](#): > > Brazilian gun nut who carries his gun with him wherever he goes, accompanied his mother for an MRI, and the MRI’s magnet caused the gun to fire, shooting him in the abdomen And according to the report, he signed the form about metal objects near the MRI machines. So he can’t say they did not warn him. (Thing is, he had to be in a position so oriented that the magnetic field pulled on the right parts of the mechanism in the right directions.) In ICU with multiple surgeries. Poor mom, all else aside. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2023, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/802 "2023-01-20T14:42:34Z")
> [@CookingWithGas](#): > > The combination to the gun safe was his birthday. "My parents bought a special box where they keep my birthday presents! Happy Bithday to me…! \< Bamm! \> Happy Bithday to me…! \< Bamm! \> ( /s ) . > [@JRDelirious](#): > > In ICU with multiple surgeries. Poor mom, all else aside. She’s a strong woman; she’s used to raising a dumbell… ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2023, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/803 "2023-01-20T20:09:27Z")
If only there’d been a good MRI machine with a gun this never would have happened. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2023, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/804 "2023-01-22T22:50:22Z")
Another mass shooting, ten dead (so far) in Monterey Park. [Monterey Park mass shooting updates: 10 dead, body found in van linked to suspect - ABC News (go.com)](https://abcnews.go.com/US/multiple-dead-shooting-monterey-park-california/story?id=96592246) Or in other words: [https://scontent.fhio2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/326424037\_3526165150944753\_4309721712899199254\_n.jpg?stp=dst-jpg\_p526x296&\_nc\_cat=105&ccb=1-7&\_nc\_sid=8bfeb9&\_nc\_ohc=bWgCXG0QepgAX8wJnHi&\_nc\_ht=scontent.fhio2-1.fna&oh=00\_AfA2voR585C97AvE0aq29S0uCVQnwrE\_P7IsnlyUlW1Lxg&oe=63D336EE](https://scontent.fhio2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/326424037_3526165150944753_4309721712899199254_n.jpg?stp=dst-jpg_p526x296&_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=bWgCXG0QepgAX8wJnHi&_nc_ht=scontent.fhio2-1.fna&oh=00_AfA2voR585C97AvE0aq29S0uCVQnwrE_P7IsnlyUlW1Lxg&oe=63D336EE) ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2023, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/805 "2023-01-23T21:30:24Z")
Ironic! > **[Texas woman shot dead during gun safety discussion, police say](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/texas-woman-shot-dead-during-gun-safety-discussion-police-say/ar-AA16E8cy?cvid=68201c81a1344d6bb957161e89531aca)** > > Officers in Fort Worth found a woman dead with an "apparent" gunshot wound to the upper body. The incident occurred while the two were "discussing gun safety". ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2023, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/806 "2023-01-23T22:10:07Z")
Man’s best friend. > **[Sheriff: Kansas hunter dies after dog steps on rifle in backseat of pickup truck](https://www.kake.com/story/48213408/sheriff-hunter-dies-after-dog-steps-on-rifle-in-backseat-of-pickup-truck)** > > The Sumner County Sheriff's Office says a man died over the weekend after his dog stepped on a rifle, causing the firearm to discharge.  ---
**Author:** ![peccavi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peccavi/32/388_2.png) [@peccavi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/peccavi)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2023, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/807 "2023-01-23T22:28:17Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > Man’s best friend Really? ![](https://media.tenor.com/McxIW773PlwAAAAC/dog-creepy-look.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2023, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/808 "2023-01-23T22:35:44Z")
[Morgan Freeman] “In the discussion about safety, he was wrong.” [/Morgan Freeman] ---
**Author:** ![mordecaiB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mordecaib/32/7725_2.png) [@mordecaiB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mordecaiB)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/809 "2023-01-24T00:27:50Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > Plus, he has a care plan that required a parent to be with him during the school day, but he had no problem learning how to carry, aim, and shoot a gun. > > Many, many questions. I don’t think I’ve ever heard of a parent having to be with their kid at school every day. Whatever disability he has, it seems it would have been treated better in a more specialized environment. > [@JRDelirious](#): > > And according to the report, he signed the form about metal objects near the MRI machines. So he can’t say they did not warn him. Why would he even need to be in the actual room with her? I mean, WTF, they have actual professionals on hand to take care of these patients. He’s of no use to his mom in the room. I’d send one of those sarcastic “thoughts and prayers” to him, but I don’t even care that little for his outcome. What a douchebag. > [@Typo\_Negative](#): > > Officers in Fort Worth found a woman dead with an “apparent” gunshot wound to the upper body. The incident occurred while the two were “discussing gun safety”. This just proves again that most of the people that think they are gun gurus know less than shit about guns and get most of their knowledge from tv/movies. I’ve trained a couple hundred people on gun safety and use and no one has ever shot themselves or anyone else. Never even a negligent discharge. It’s not rocket science, but you can’t teach it in a couple of hours in your living room. > [@Railer13](#): > > Man’s best friend. > > [https://www.kake.com/story/48213408/sheriff-hunter-dies-after-dog-steps-on-rifle-in-backseat-of-pickup-truck](https://www.kake.com/story/48213408/sheriff-hunter-dies-after-dog-steps-on-rifle-in-backseat-of-pickup-truck) Probably self defense by the dog. He figured a guy with a loaded gun with the safety off just laying unsecured in a car didn’t bode well for him if he had to run out in front of this guy across a field. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/810 "2023-01-24T00:58:46Z")
> [@mordecaiB](#): > > > Officers in Fort Worth found a woman dead with an “apparent” gunshot wound to the upper body. The incident occurred while the two were “discussing gun safety”. > > This just proves again that most of the people that think they are gun gurus know less than shit about guns and get most of their knowledge from tv/movies. Oh, I was assuming the discussion was really more of an argument, and the guy on the pro-gun side shot her to “win” the argument. ---
**Author:** ![CookingWithGas](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cookingwithgas/32/485_2.png) [@CookingWithGas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CookingWithGas)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/811 "2023-01-24T03:50:02Z")
> [@mordecaiB](#): > > I don’t think I’ve ever heard of a parent having to be with their kid at school every day. Whatever disability he has, it seems it would have been treated better in a more specialized environment. I found that alarming. Definitely a flag that the school is not qualified to deal with this child’s disability/disorder. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2023, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/812 "2023-01-24T04:14:03Z")
> [@carrps](#): > > Oh, I was assuming the discussion was really more of an argument, and the guy on the pro-gun side shot her to “win” the argument. Yes, I see the “discussion” going like this: She: Don’t bring that gun in the house you moron! He: Shut up! It’s perfectly safe! S: It’s not safe! You’re a moron and don’t know what you’re doing! H: Don’t talk to me like that! I know what I’m doing! Look! S: Don’t point that fucking thing at me! H: I told you it’s perfectly BANG! H: Oh. Sorry. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/813 "2023-01-26T12:26:55Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > 6 year old shoots teacher. > [6-year-old shoots teacher at Richneck Elementary School in Newport News | 13newsnow.com](https://www.13newsnow.com/article/news/crime/richneck-elementary-school-shooting-newport-news/291-d07069f9-648b-4b25-aa53-351d7e1c037a) > > > In a press conference Friday evening, city officials said the shooting was not accidental, that it happened in a first-grade classroom and **that the teacher’s injuries were life-threatening.** Everyone else in the school building – faculty, staff, and students – were safe. > **[Lawyer: Warnings boy had gun ignored before he shot teacher](https://apnews.com/article/newport-news-school-shooting-a40dfad64388aadf1f90211177412522)** > > An attorney says a Virginia teacher who was shot by a 6-year-old student during class plans to sue the school district. Hear something, do nothing. Good job, adults. > Diane Toscano, an attorney for Abigail Zwerner, said during a news conference that she has notified the school board in [Newport News](https://apnews.com/hub/newport-news) that the 25-year-old teacher at Richneck Elementary School plans to sue the school district over the shooting, which left Zwerner with serious injuries. > > “On that day, over the course of a few hours, three different times — three times — school administration was warned by concerned teachers and employees that the boy had a gun on him at the school and was threatening people. But the administration could not be bothered,” Toscano said. Question here is why didn’t the staff call the police? ETA: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/mtdb1kscZ1U/maxresdefault.jpg "Let's talk about Newport News and remembering your training....") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtdb1kscZ1U) ---
**Author:** ![mordecaiB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mordecaib/32/7725_2.png) [@mordecaiB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mordecaiB)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/814 "2023-01-26T17:17:16Z")
This quote in the article from an administrator is just eye-popping stupid(bolding mine): > About an hour later, another teacher went to an administrator and said she had taken it upon herself to search the boy’s bookbag, but **warned that she thought the boy had put the gun in his pocket before going outside** for recess, Toscano said. > > “ **The administrator downplayed the report from the teacher and the possibility of a gun, saying — and I quote — ‘Well, he has little pockets,** ’ ” Toscano said. ---
**Author:** ![CookingWithGas](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cookingwithgas/32/485_2.png) [@CookingWithGas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CookingWithGas)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/815 "2023-01-26T19:59:18Z")
I read a couple of articles on this and my conclusion is that the administrators were in denial, with the state of mind of, “If a 6-year-old has a gun we’re going to really have to do something about it” and nobody wanted the responsibility. ---
**Author:** ![mordecaiB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mordecaib/32/7725_2.png) [@mordecaiB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mordecaiB)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/816 "2023-01-26T21:41:10Z")
Definitely big denial going on. Probably a large dose of “that would never happen at our school!” Sounds like a few of them are resigning/being fired over this. Hopefully anyone that was in on the decision to pass on searching the boy will be unemployed soon. I just can’t get past three warnings of a child with a gun, and zero response. I don’t think the school has any way to argue this wasn’t gross negligence. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2023, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/817 "2023-01-26T22:40:33Z")
> [@mordecaiB](#): > > I just can’t get past three warnings of a child with a gun, and zero response. _If he does have a gun, that scares me, and if he doesn’t have a gun, his parents will sue us for harassment_. ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_maire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aurora_maire/32/328_2.png) [@aurora\_maire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aurora_maire)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2023, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/818 "2023-01-27T00:05:11Z")
I don’t have much experience with six year olds besides my nieces and nephews being that age a long time ago. I can see a kid that age bringing a gun to school to show off to friends and not understanding the consequences. But to conceal it from adults, show it to other kids while threatening to kill them if they told and literally telling a teacher he is going to kill her seems to me beyond the mental capacity of a six year old. Are children that age normally capable of that much duplicity and cunning? Obviously this one was but is he that far off the norm? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2023, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/819 "2023-01-27T02:01:51Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Question here is why didn’t the staff call the police? Why didn’t one of those adults take the gun off the kid? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2023, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428/820 "2023-01-27T02:04:09Z")
I’m going to hazard a guess that without seeing the gun, they’re not allowed to touch the kid or go through his stuff. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428.md?page=40) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/stupid-gun-news-of-the-day-part-2/958428.md?page=42)